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BishopGore wrote:Also I just noticed something about the Night Phase, Drk_O called a countdown, as if someone with night abilities wasn't using them. Either our Exarch forgot to use his ability to protect someone, or the renegade/Dark Kin forgot to use one of theirs. Unless in that last hour and a half something changed

I think I might be overstepping myself here, but I hadn't heard anything from Rusty, and figured he might have wanted to use some of his Farseer powers.

Except 1X1+1X1-0X1 =/= 1 (DK+New-Farseer=/= Rusty)

Drk_Rose has opted to withdraw from this game, so I'll find someone to replace her.

another leaving this is a bit suspicious but not much

the_ferrett wrote:Except 1X1+1X1-0X1 =/= 1 (DK+New-Farseer=/= Rusty)

Errr, what?

Mathematically you are correct, but what the heck does '(DK+New-Farseer =/= Rusty' mean? Dark Kin, what the heck is new, obviously Rusty is not equalling 3 people?

And yes Drk_O, you are probably overstepping yourself in giving us that information. But it does give us something to wonder about, I guess Rusty must have just sneaked his power use in under the wire, or else he just decided to go all out on LL because he'd forgotten to use his powers. But that doesn't make much sense. However it negates my theories regarding attempts on people's lives last night.

Anyone else got theories regarding Rusty and the fact he may or may not have used his Farseer power?

A Dark kin kill plus a (insert name for new town role here) kill, minus a Farseer save (If Farseers give saves) .... except the farseer can't have not made his save without one of the other teams not making their kill.... unless the 1/64 chance of the two teams chosing the same kill happened.

BishopGore wrote:And yes Drk_O, you are probably overstepping yourself in giving us that information. But it does give us something to wonder about, I guess Rusty must have just sneaked his power use in under the wire, or else he just decided to go all out on LL because he'd forgotten to use his powers. But that doesn't make much sense. However it negates my theories regarding attempts on people's lives last night.

I thought you meant NightPhase2. The one where he died.

@Bishop: I voted for Vulkan becuase, in all honesty, I was bored and no one was talking. I guess it gave you something to post about.

We really could do with a vote like that now.

I...did? What more do you want?!?

Oh sh** I've messed up really badly.

Well...screw you Arheiner! You're always demanding things of me, you never post just to talk anymore!

(/emotional break-up rant)

Maybe, but I just noticed i've made a huge error which means I should be dying this night phase

Well, you're safe from me. Even if I was a Dark Kin I have no idea what the feth you are on about.

They can find out easily though.

Fellow Craftworlders, I find Arheiners behaviour suspicious. He claims to be a prime target for the Dark Kin, yet offers no explanation as to why. (Apart from calls of "I'm screwed, I'm screwed!")

This is possible some sort of attempt to get a 'Doctor Role' to protect him. My question is, why?

Vote: Arheiner

If you want the explaination, it's going to cost us my life, but i'm prepared to give it.

@Drk_O oops I don't get a cookie from the DM for being quick. Sorry man, I am not on top of things at all!

Well if nobody noticed it before I called attention to it, and they didn't get it from me calling attention to it, they probably see it now. Unless you're attempting to pull the wool over everyone's eyes. Either way, I don't think my leaving a vote on you is going to garner much more information.

Unvote: Arheiner

If you're prepared to give it then I suppose I can say it, Arheiner seems to be claiming to be the Exarch, since he made the slip of saying Dire Avenger Exarch, rather than just Exarch. Either a complete balls up, or a clever ploy to confuse us. But since he is the Doctor role, noone can save him, unless he's aiming to throw off the Dark Kin.

But anyway... it leaves my ideas dry, since in Day 2 I was thinking Rusty and Arheiner were the most suspicious besides LL. So... EF. You've been suspicious in my eyes... err, not really at all. EXPLAIN YOURSELF!

Sorry, I joke. Terribly poor taste.

Vulkan is not really much of a target, we need to find another person to investigate.

Emperors Faithful wrote:Fellow Craftworlders, I find Arheiners behaviour suspicious. He claims to be a prime target for the Dark Kin, yet offers no explanation as to why. (Apart from calls of "I'm screwed, I'm screwed!")

This is possible some sort of attempt to get a 'Doctor Role' to protect him. My question is, why?

I think Arheiner is implying that he's the exarch. The Dark Kin already know who's Eldar or at least not Dark Eldar in the case of the mystery renegade.

I think he could be
1. Trying to fake us out by pretending to have a role so we leave him alone, but it's a little premature when he only had 1 vote on him.
2. He's pro-Eldar and trying to fake out the Dark Eldar by pretending to have a role so they go after him while the real exarch blocks the night kill. Alternatively he could be trying to force the last couple scum out into the open when they try to lynch him.
3. He's actually the Exarch and genuinely f'd up.

I still think he's pretty suspicious from the last couple days.

Vote: Arheiner

Over three hours later and I've just trawled the whole thread from front to back. And here are my notes taken throughout.

I went by the knowledge:
a) LL was the archon
b) Shas'O was innocent
c) Rusty was the Farseer

And the (possibly dangerous) assumption that:
d) Arheiner is the Exarch

avantgarde:
hyperactive
quickly acts when he feels attacked
tries to create further distrust in players who are already under scrutiny
Makes positive comments about LL on Page 5 while attacking Shas, Vulkan and BG
vague attack on LL
some minor scuffles with LL on Day 2
No strong opinions Day 2
watches Day 2 end with just a vague stab at Vulkan

not_u:
Calls for calm and logic
generally sensible
seems to think watching people is better than trying to force people into suspicious behaviour
claims he forgot to vote in Day 1
Votes Lord Loss in Day 2 because LL was being quiet

EF:
Lots of long deep posts very early
called for Shas'O lynch early
works to get people to act suspiciously
backs off from the Shas'O vote due to 'guilt' of Ferrett vote
Drew attention to LL's behaviour
Joins the LL attack at the last moment when he's on 3 votes

Scarper:
New
Makes sense and tries to probe, but doesn't seem to have much time
Tries to help Shas'O but eventually gets annoyed with his foolishness
Logical about Shas'O's lynch after the fact
(pulls out - replaced by Drk_Rose, she then pulls out too)

Vulkan:
Voted for Drk_O in RVS
Had exams, but even when they finished was still wishy-washy
posted some more in later Day 2, but nothing really worth reading
End of Day 2 his mind explodes after reading a few posts.

Ferrett:
Talks a lot in short bursts
Asks probing questions
voted RustyKnight for very little reason after saying he wouldn't vote in round one
wishy-washy Day 2
Claims we're 'jumping at ghosts' possibly aimed at our attacks on LL

Shas'O was lynched by: Rusty, Arheiner and Scarper.
Rusty was the Farseer, Arheiner MAY be the Exarch... Scarper? Hmmmm...

Lord-Loss was lynched by: Rusty, BishopGore, not_U, EF

Page 15 and I am so very very bored

As you can possibly see from my focus, I find avantegarde very suspicious. He went almost completely quiet in Day 2 and watched LL die without really weighing in or getting involved besides a couple of vague comments about Vulkan being quiet and how that was typical of him.

Ferrett has made some very peculiar attacks during Day 2, especially against Rusty and those aiming to lynch LL. I admit I thought Rusty was guilty for a while myself (in fact he was one of my top suspects).

not_u could have been a suspect, but he was instrumental on turning the attack onto LL. Either a clever Dark Kin ploy, or a play at actually ridding the ship of excrement

EF looks a bit bad for only joining the vote against LL when he was already a shoe-in for death. He could have muddied things voting for Vulkan, but that would likely have made him look worse than the LL vote has done. One to watch, since he's such a prolific poster.

Scarper has been too quiet and reasonable since the start. There's been no frustration or anything from him. However since his character is currently sitting empty there's no point aiming anything at empty air. Let's hope he gets replaced sometime soon.

Vulkan is just a bit all over the place, posting from time to time, but nothing of consequence or really sense (sorry, I'm doing the Arheiner 'blunt' tactic)

Anyway, I have chosen, quite obviously.

Vote: avantgarde

EDIT reason: put my quote in code brackets by accident and it was unreadable >.<

Awesome, my major suspect just attacked the guy who may well be the Exarch. I'm not sure what that says, but my suspicions have just been increased.

Bishop! You forgot to mention that I've been harassing you, Rusty and someone else I forget atm. I've been saying ya guilty since moment zero . Now Rusty was a bad choice, but *harasses* for 'very little reason after saying he wouldn't vote in round one'.

the_ferrett wrote:Bishop! You forgot to mention that I've been harassing you, Rusty and someone else I forget atm. I've been saying ya guilty since moment zero . Now Rusty was a bad choice, but *harasses* for 'very little reason after saying he wouldn't vote in round one'.

Didn't forget to mention it, didn't think it was worth mentioning. With 23 pages of CRAP to cycle through I picked out things that jumped out at me. Most of your stuff doesn't because you post such short comments.

And yes, most of the 23 pages were crap. And now it is bed time

But, we don't know if this guy is the Exarch. Anyway, how did you know that the Exarch was a Doctor Role? I was under the impression that it was a Night Kill Role. (Similar to that of an Imperial Assassin)

See, so much crap it makes me think 22 = 23

Do you have me on ignore or something, mate?

I think he's asleep

I did give some thought to voting for LL on Day 2 but I decided against it because it wouldn't have brought the day to an end faster. Since my vote was inconsequential I thought voting for him would look like I was trying to bandwagon to avoid suspicion as a Dark Eldar. Unfortunately not voting was going look suspicious too, so I decided to go with the latter option. I knew I was going to be caught in a hard place no matter what so I went with the option that was easier to explain later on.

You'll notice that I did defend Vulkan somewhere on page 20. Not "a vague stab" as your notes read.

Yeah was feeling what I said on pg. 5 would come back to bite me. Since I was suspecting three new players, one of which turned up innocent. All three were expressing suspicious behavior at that point. Bishop you were telling us to lynch experienced players, Vulkan was posting his suspicions without backing it up and Shas'o was being Shas'o. Also LL didn't try to hop off the Shas'o bandwagon until pg 6 so I think can be forgiven if he misled me on pg. 5.

Emperors Faithful wrote:But, we don't know if this guy is the Exarch. Anyway, how did you know that the Exarch was a Doctor Role? I was under the impression that it was a Night Kill Role. (Similar to that of an Imperial Assassin)

You're the one that suggested that a doctor role existed first. About four posts right after the night phase ended.

BishopGore wrote:@Drk_O oops I don't get a cookie from the DM for being quick. Sorry man, I am not on top of things at all!

Well if nobody noticed it before I called attention to it, and they didn't get it from me calling attention to it, they probably see it now. Unless you're attempting to pull the wool over everyone's eyes. Either way, I don't think my leaving a vote on you is going to garner much more information.

Unvote: Arheiner

If you're prepared to give it then I suppose I can say it, Arheiner seems to be claiming to be the Exarch, since he made the slip of saying Dire Avenger Exarch, rather than just Exarch. Either a complete balls up, or a clever ploy to confuse us. But since he is the Doctor role, noone can save him, unless he's aiming to throw off the Dark Kin.

But anyway... it leaves my ideas dry, since in Day 2 I was thinking Rusty and Arheiner were the most suspicious besides LL. So... EF. You've been suspicious in my eyes... err, not really at all. EXPLAIN YOURSELF!

Sorry, I joke. Terribly poor taste.

Vulkan is not really much of a target, we need to find another person to investigate.

Yes, I am the Dire Avenger Exarch, and I made a complete balls up in that after checking back and realising Drk_O only mentioned an Exarch, nothing to do with Dire Avenger. And yes I am a doctor role, I may be dead overnight but that was inevitable from my error. Right now we need to figure out avantgarde I think, you can trust me since I will be dead in the night, they can't take any risks though with Rusty dead my role is nearly pointless. I have failed us.