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The Techmarine, would he be Artificer or Terminator armoured? Seeing as the rest of the army seems to be kind of that way as a possible build.

Vhalyar wrote:

aka_mythos wrote:I'm curious what the fluff explanation for these things will be. Were they invented for the GK or were they something found in some ancient vault... or what?

GK: We like being laid to rest on Titan, not being entombed in a walking coffin for god knows how long until we go mad.

Actually, Imperial Dreadnoughts don't go mad. They're cared for and maintained between battles. They very distinctly maintain their sanity, even in the face of the grievous wounds that necessitated them being dreadnoughted in the first place.

Which is also important. Because Dreadnoughts aren't "the dead stuffed into a machine".

It's the "Nearly dead, who impossibly managed to survive and want to keep serving" who control Dreads.

Yeah, I have to side with Kan on this. Marine Dreads can be a bit senile and forget things over the years, but they're far from the stark-raving lunatics that pilot the Chaos Dreads.

Guys, he was making a point that GK don't want to be put into dreadnoughts BECAUSE they may end up living and fighting daemons for thousands of years, a Grey Knight would much rather die peacefully and be put to rest on titan, where they know be safe from the shadows of the warp and have a peaceful afterlife or WHATEVER.

He didnt mean that they literally go mad, they just hate being dreadnoughts.

I doubt they hate being in Dreadnoughts either. Dreadnoughts are seen as heroic demi-Gods among the Marines. Why would the GK's be any different?

That's old fluff I think bud, most BL books I have read recently always seem to mention how the marines are terrified of the confinement and living death and never being able to see and touch with their own eyes and hands.

Very Vader'esque laments. That being said, I wouldn't like to be a chunk of meat suspended in goo stuck in a walking refrigerator for all time either lol.

MajorTom11 wrote:That's old fluff I think bud, most BL books I have read recently always seem to mention how the marines are terrified of the confinement and living death and never being able to see and touch with their own eyes and hands.

Very Vader'esque laments. That being said, I wouldn't like to be a chunk of meat suspended in goo stuck in a walking refrigerator for all time either lol.

Yeah

I'll be honest about the Dreadknight. If it is ass in the Codex, it looks like I still might be able to make an N-Scale Battlemech out of it.

Ah, well in that case, I've learnt from my own lesson - the fluff isn't sacred, it is arbitrary.

H.B.M.C. wrote:I doubt they hate being in Dreadnoughts either. Dreadnoughts are seen as heroic demi-Gods among the Marines. Why would the GK's be any different?

Because their greatest wish is a worthwhile death in battle so that they might have their bodies entombed beneath Titan.
Forge World also had an interesting piece of fluff about it, with a Grey Knight on the verge of death wracked with indecision about being put in a Dreadnought. Considering that the fluff has changed quite a bit with the GK now working with all three Ordos, I wouldn't be surprised if GW expanded on the Grey Knight's apprehension about not getting their eternal rest.

I thought Dreadnoughts tended to spend most of their time reliving past victories while not fighting.

Each GK is a mental fortress, chaos cannot touch them nor corrupt them. Going mad is pretty much not an option because of the horrors they have witnessed and not blinked.

Eldar: Smooth, curved, aerodynamic, beautiful. Everything a person could want in terms of visual appeal.

bhsman wrote:

Space Marines: The Emperor's holy box-planes fill the sky in droves, providing aerial support for the box-giants running rampant down below.
After the Stormraven, what did you expect?

For all those interested, this fugly picture did break my silence on this forum.

Is that the so-called dreadknight?

Yes. It transforms into a Land Raider.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Yes. It transforms into a Land Raider.

Where does the sword go?

It looks like the bastard child of Megatron (The Bay Version) and and a Grey Knight.

The reason Grey Knights cannot be turned to Chaos is because there is simply nothing too corrupt.

The GK undergo extreme mind scrubbing and psychotherapy to ensure that there is nothing in their minds except prayers to the Emperor, curses against the Daemon, and litanies of hate against the enemies of man.

... Ben Counter's books to the contrary...

Which is why the loss of Fearless, or at least stubborn, makes ZERO sense.

What on earth are you guys complaining about? That Dreadknight looks awesome!

If I was a Grey Knight, and I heard about Sanguinor breaking a DaemonPrince (or whatever he killed) over his knee, I would order my techmarines to make me armor that would allow me to do that too. Then, to prove Grey Knights are the greatest Daemon killers, I would have them make me a sword that can cut one in twain with a single blow.

Also, this is far closer to Robotjox than the new transformers. Although I don't think anyone would complain if you played 'You've got the touch' as they strode into battle.

Well, the 12 pixels representing the Termies look like they'll be good.

The Dreadknight...I'll wait until I see a legit image. But it ain't looking good from the blurry shot.

Considering we are looking at a highly elite army, with small units that cost a feth load of points correct???

How many points is in the picture, like 3000???

Looks rather sweet though.

I would like a more clear pic of the GKDK before I can pass rightious judgement upon it.


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Gitzbitah wrote:Also, this is far closer to Robotjox than the new transformers. Although I don't think anyone would complain if you played 'You've got the touch' as they strode into battle.

You get an infinite amount of cookies and my respect for knowing about Robot Jox.

But I must say, I can see a ton of players getting ready their Mechrite Red and Regal Blue to paint their GKDK's.

Gitzbitah wrote:What on earth are you guys complaining about? That Dreadknight looks awesome!

If I was a Grey Knight, and I heard about Sanguinor breaking a DaemonPrince (or whatever he killed) over his knee, I would order my techmarines to make me armor that would allow me to do that too. Then, to prove Grey Knights are the greatest Daemon killers, I would have them make me a sword that can cut one in twain with a single blow.

Also, this is far closer to Robotjox than the new transformers. Although I don't think anyone would complain if you played 'You've got the touch' as they strode into battle.

My main problem is the size. I don't like how there's this mentality that "bigger is better". Especially with space marines, where all the components are meant to look like they've been specially pixelated, just for you, how big can you go before it gets stupid? That's one of the hugest difficulties with the stormraven: the larger they make their cubic models, the uglier they get. Yes, the stormraven has some lovely detail, its an interesting concept, and the scultping is well done. I bet the dreadknight will be the same. But isn't there a better way, one that doesn't involve such rigid adherence to flat-paneled, curveless geometry? LEGO has been around for a long time.

I understand that the boxiness is something very distinctive to the Imperium, and the space marines especially. I just think that it could have been done in a more subtle way with the storm raven, and also from what I can see of the dreadknight.

5 dreadknights can combine to form voltron.. I know a guy who heard a rumor from GW

Kirasu wrote:5 dreadknights can combine to form voltron.. I know a guy who heard a rumor from GW

O rly?

Im happy to see the pics!


That dreadknight looks ace.

Im actually happy it is MC size and not a mephiston wannabe

Well, you know when I said I'm not jumping onto the band wagon with this army...

I take it back, those models have completely won me over.

I'm trying to enhance the pic above with Photoshop, but I'm having uber amounts of difficulty with it.

It's true - One cannot simply CSI their way into the 41st Millenium.

One does not simply CSI their way into image enhancement!

First time someone challenges their Dreadknight with a Greater Daemon (or a Deff Dread, Wraithlord, etc.), the GK player must say "One shall stand. One shall fall."

And, if the Dreadknight wins, it must either say "I thought you were make of sterner stuff" or "I stand. You fall.". If the Dreadknight loses, the opposing player can say "Such heroic nonsense!" in whatever accent is appropriate for the army they are playing.

And have a Guardsman running away saying "No no no no no no!"?

Nightwatch wrote:
I understand that the boxiness is something very distinctive to the Imperium, and the space marines especially. I just think that it could have been done in a more subtle way with the storm raven, and also from what I can see of the dreadknight.

It just makes me weep that we could have had this:



or this



Both of which are boxy as heck.

But we got this



Superion ain't looking much better.

I will get two. The first one, thanks to Kyoto, will be named Superion. What should the other one be called? Voltron? Optimus? Defensor?