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Gecko, your a bloody genius!
She will make a nice new inquisitor!

Cheers for the idea

 Seneca wrote:
My mind has been blown away, literally.

I think you mean metaphorically.

Also that red dude looks good, and I don't usually like the look of Eldar at all.

On a side note, I don't understand this hate against the Aeldari word. It is literally just Eldar with an A and an I on either end?

It's a symptom of GW throwing away years of heritage just so they can trademark a word.

 Rippy wrote:

 Seneca wrote:
My mind has been blown away, literally.

I think you mean metaphorically.

Also that red dude looks good, and I don't usually like the look of Eldar at all.

On a side note, I don't understand this hate against the Aeldari word. It is literally just Eldar with an A and an I on either end?

I think because it represents change, and looking at these new minis, if you liked the old Eldar style, too bad, it's the legacies for you. Considering the number of Eldar that need plastic, these new releases and new name don't seem like good news.

Red dude does appear to be what was in the silhouette on the image of the Ulthwe models from Fall of Cadia.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Red dude does appear to be what was in the silhouette on the image of the Ulthwe models from Fall of Cadia.

Your avatar is a fitting response to your post

 Red Corsair wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Red dude does appear to be what was in the silhouette on the image of the Ulthwe models from Fall of Cadia.

Your avatar is a fitting response to your post

I am on minimal sleep, so give me a break . My night last night ended with a suicidal patient that OD'd being admitted and my daughter had a swim meet today (she got her state time!). I am lucky I can string words together. Nap time!

 Azreal13 wrote:
It's a symptom of GW throwing away years of heritage just so they can trademark a word.

I see it more like fans overthinking things and flagelating themselves.

Really not what I was expecting.
Not a big fan of the models so far (except for the red dude), but it might be in part because of the paint job.
I feel like the lady and the avatar would look weird in any army, that they wouldn't fit…

Still hoping that at least one of them will be an HQ choice for Harlequins (especially if the avatar is a LoW).

Lord Kragan wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
It's a symptom of GW throwing away years of heritage just so they can trademark a word.

I see it more like fans overthinking things and flagelating themselves.

Well, you're entitled to be incorrect, of course.

Love the Gyrinx and the Avatar

"Not Mays" is almost great but too stiff and her headress...........also Dark Eldar ladiesdo like their barefeet eh?

The final player is a bit dull really.

I absolutely love all 3 of them. The woman, I was sold with the fancy headress and head itself: she looks so damn pretty, it was like I was looking at a Malifaux figure. The mix of "puffy" dress and combat attire, it looks like a joy to paint.

But the red armored dude? Oh man, now that is delicious: the face emboss is one of armor detail that makes me salivate because of how cool I think it looks.

The one I'm least sold on is the avatar, and that's only because the idea of painting it kinda intimidates me. Our Lord and Savior Duncan Rhodes better make one hell of a video for that bad boy!

I really like the red armoured chap. A different paint job and some conversion work and he'd make a solid Archon.

The Lady's skirt and stuff does feel to 'Imperial' in feel to me. Sure, she's accessorized with plenty of gem stones but the hip-cushion action has more of that Gothic-Imperial Vibe.

Although, Abbadon is going to have to go some way to beat her insane-o-rama hairdo!

And...frankly my Dark Eldar would be filling that Avatar with splinter fire and Dark Lances before it could open it's mouth.

It's purple, it has a* horn, is hermaphrodite....it's a servant of She-Who-Thirsts, dammit!

If that thing is leading the Imperials down into the Webway, I hope they told the God-Emperor where they were going.

A pass from me, I'm afraid.

Although a Chaos Triumvirate is almost inevitable at this point, surely?

Hopefully with a new Abaddon model. Or whichever Chaos Minion has finally replaced his sorry arse.

*or the. Gnonk-fnarr-fnarr.

 Azreal13 wrote:
It's a symptom of GW throwing away years of heritage just so they can trademark a word.

Nothing stops you from calling them Eldar, and then Games Workshop get to secure their IP. I see no issues here?
Just how everyone still calls them IG, no harm.

It will be interesting to see how this book unfolds. DE and Eldar working together would be awesome.

I can't believe there are Haters of the new eldar models, they look absolutely stunning and amazing!

 Rippy wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
It's a symptom of GW throwing away years of heritage just so they can trademark a word.

Nothing stops you from calling them Eldar, and then Games Workshop get to secure their IP. I see no issues here?
Just how everyone still calls them IG, no harm.

The way trademarks work, I'm pretty sure GW could have protected it already, it's futile, which is the real kicker. There's also plenty of people use the new Guard name, I certainly see AM used in place of IG often enough.

 Azreal13 wrote:
The way trademarks work, I'm pretty sure GW could have protected it already, it's futile, which is the real kicker.

I imagine that you have a law degree and have read the previous trade marks, as well as practiced law for you to be so sure about this?
There was something wrong with the Eldar trademark, so they have made steps to secure their IP.

They are still the Eldar for you, so don't let it bother you, friendo.

No, I just have the basic working knowledge that trademarks can be enforced if one can prove they're being used, and that their scope is limited, and as a consequence nobody could start making a line of wargaming miniatures called Eldar.

Which makes me better qualified than over three quarters of the GW legal team during the CHS case.

 Rippy wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
The way trademarks work, I'm pretty sure GW could have protected it already, it's futile, which is the real kicker.

I imagine that you have a law degree and have read the previous trade marks, as well as practiced law for you to be so sure about this?
There was something wrong with the Eldar trademark, so they have made steps to secure their IP.

They are still the Eldar for you, so don't let it bother you, friendo.

Latter part of this.

Particularly as so far there's been a single, seemingly archaic/historical use of the word Aeldari.

 Azreal13 wrote:
No, I just have the basic working knowledge that trademarks can be enforced if one can prove they're being used, and that their scope is limited, and as a consequence nobody could start making a line of wargaming miniatures called Eldar.

Which makes me better qualified than over three quarters of the GW legal team during the CHS case.

With your short-sighted ability, maybe you should work for GW There is obviously more to this than "no one else can make our miniatures". Every company, heck, every person that invents something locks down their IP, as they are entitled to.

TLDR: your basic knowledge isn't enough.

Some cool models. It must be so exciting to be inside GW with the freedom to explore new concepts and aesthetics they now have. I am excited to see what's next!

 Rippy wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
No, I just have the basic working knowledge that trademarks can be enforced if one can prove they're being used, and that their scope is limited, and as a consequence nobody could start making a line of wargaming miniatures called Eldar.

Which makes me better qualified than over three quarters of the GW legal team during the CHS case.

With your short-sighted ability, maybe you should work for GW There is obviously more to this than "no one else can make our miniatures". Every company, heck, every person that invents something locks down their IP, as they are entitled to.

TLDR: your basic knowledge isn't enough.

Your reply shows you're not clear what the difference between trademark, copyright and patent are, so maybe stop with snide comments, and accept that you asked a question and received an answer (one that I never actually said I agreed with, simply that's what I perceive to be the issue) and that while I may not be a legal prefoessional, I probably have a better handle in it than you do.

WuChildNZ wrote:
It will be interesting to see how this book unfolds. DE and Eldar working together would be awesome.

I can't believe there are Haters of the new eldar models, they look absolutely stunning and amazing!

Yeah now I've come down from shiny new models buzz I'm really interested in what the background is gonna be.

Will book two be a direct continuation from book one? Or will it cover the same time frame from the Eldar perspective?

Biel-tan is an interesting choice. If I was going to pick one of the big craftworlds to use in a plotline involving the 13th black crusade and Ynnead, Ulthwe or Iyanden would IMO have been the (maybe too)obvious choices. Biel-tan is not noted for heavy use of wraith constructs and is further away from the EoT then Earth.

 Azreal13 wrote:

 Rippy wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
No, I just have the basic working knowledge that trademarks can be enforced if one can prove they're being used, and that their scope is limited, and as a consequence nobody could start making a line of wargaming miniatures called Eldar.

Which makes me better qualified than over three quarters of the GW legal team during the CHS case.

With your short-sighted ability, maybe you should work for GW There is obviously more to this than "no one else can make our miniatures". Every company, heck, every person that invents something locks down their IP, as they are entitled to.

TLDR: your basic knowledge isn't enough.

Your reply shows you're not clear what the difference between trademark, copyright and patent are, so maybe stop with snide comments, and accept that you asked a question and received an answer (one that I never actually said I agreed with, simply that's what I perceive to be the issue) and that while I may not be a legal prefoessional, I probably have a better handle in it than you do.

I agree, I have a terrible handle on trademarks, copyright, and patent (which is ironic in a way, noting I work for a law firm), but I don't assume that I do have an idea.

I do apologize however, I did get a bit snide, I just get annoyed when people get in that mind set of "GW changed something I like, now I will hate it because they are greedy" when there is alot more to the picture. I took out this frustration on you, so I am sorry.

So, how about that topic, folks?

Poor Biel-Tann. Yours was always my favorite Craftworld color scheme.

GW own the trademark for Eldar anyway.
There would be no need to change the name.

Love 'em. I'm guessing Ynnead has infused the emissary and sword dude with souls which is why they're dripping with soul stones. Only thing I don't like is the Yncarne's sword. Large and ornate as it is, it still looks like a regular eldar sword.

 Azreal13 wrote:
The way trademarks work, I'm pretty sure GW could have protected it already, it's futile, which is the real kicker. There's also plenty of people use the new Guard name, I certainly see AM used in place of IG often enough.

They did, they've had it for ages. Whatever reason they had to come up with the new name, I presume it wasn't just to have something they could trademark.

I wonder if Biel-Tan being at the forefront of the next book is any indication that they're going to finally give us some plastic Aspect Warriors sometime this year.

Well, it certainly fits with GWS portrayal of the ancient intelligent cutthroat race of eldar to have them be the most gullible trusting morons since the fething Navi doesn't it? "Well who are you then?" "Why, don't you recognize me, it's Ynnead, savior of the Eldar race and not a chaos daemon at all!" "Ah yes of course you look trustworthy, come with me I was just going to invite the most intolerant and alien hating factions of the imperium over for tea in the webway."