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Gameplaywise the differences are a wash, just pick the ones you like aesthetically. E:A rules specify that no dimension should exceed 40 mm or be less than 5 mm while at least one must be at least 20 mm. Within thosr bounds, anything goes from rounds to squares or bananas.
Pacific wrote: Look fantastic doktor_g! A real red vs. blue matchup. I love how bright the colour and finish is.
Just as a bit of fun, a mini diorama
A Legion Manticore Battery travels along a roadway. Following successful disruption of supply lines by Ork long-range Biker groups, the route is under protection. In this case by a unit of Androids, designation Gamma-Mu, who had been withdrawn from frontline duty after they failed to follow orders and assault an Ork counter-offensive, leading to heavy Legion losses.
Excellent! I'd happily sit and read through a book of pictures of your Epic stuff, its up there with the 'Beyond the Green River' stuff from Italy.
Sadly had to cancel my 3rd Ed games over the Christmas holidays due to sickness (two Christmases in a row now! )
But made more progress on my Nurgle traitor guard though. Found a paint scheme that I actually liked AND was quick to do. Need to base up a load of the infantry now, but just not had the push to get them done.
The tank riders are pinned where possible and whilst I don't recommand moving them by grabbing them directly, they are not going to come off any time soon. They do only have a very small contact area for gluing otherwise. For the kneeling chap, the trick is to leave the sprue attached and then cut that down to size to use as the pin. The sitting chap can be attached without being pinned, as you can re-enforce the bond with a glue/bi-carb mix behind him which is then hidden in the final model.
Some pics from a game I played yesterday, just trying out the armies for our planned demo event with a smaller 4000pt game. A bunch of photos are hidden behind the spoiler tags.
After devastatingly accurate artillery fire had damaged approaching Snakebite Clans, the Ork fast attack contingent flanked them. Some poor positioning by defending Tactical units allowed the artillery to be destroyed.
Ork forces crossed the river. The fates were cruel and while a unit of Gretchin managed to pass safely, a sudden surge of water carried away a few Nob and Boyz units.
Warlord Mutarg's Gargant, being peppered with Lascannon fire from a Landraider company, lines up a Gutbuster shot on a Warhound that had foolishly taken a step too far out of a housing complex. The shot was deadly accurate, cutting straight through the shields, shearing the Warhound's leg off and sending the machine crashing to the ground. The shot then cannoned straight through the building behind before landing squarely on a 'Field Police' (Consul Opsequiari) unit. Some snorts of derisive laughter may have been heard from the Sergeant of the unit the Field Police were attached to...
Spoiler:
The Berskerer unit charges straight into the Snakebite Clan, under the auspices of saving the Blood Angel recon unit nearby. Without a thought to their own survival the crazed marines were swallowed up into the mass of Orks, and although they exacted a heavy toll when the sound of revving chainblades stopped only the Centurion unit leading them remained.
The Shadowsword company was poorly deployed, a treeline ahead of them meaning they had very little field of fire, being able to only attack some targets of opportunity (alas for the Cult of Speed Warbike that was hit by a Volcano Cannon). Corrective psycho-surgery for the unit commander awaited them following the retreat of World Eater forces. The second Warhound Titan ahead of them fared better, it's twin turbo-laser destroyers making short work of approaching Ork armour.
A Legion Fulmentarus detachment advanced on the airfield and lay down a devastating barrage of cyclone missile fire on the Ork units contenting the airfield objective. Unfortunately, some experimental powerfield technology on an accompanying Mekboy Dragster deflected the shots onto the nearby Marine Jet Bikes, destroying them!
Cap'n Squigbeard's Freebooters unit capture an objective from the air. Poor positioning by the Imperial Forces and a lack of infantry nearby meant the Ork unit was safe inside the forest, although the Black-Ork Choppa was shot down by nearby Land Raiders. Squigbeard was heard to mutter curses about the amount of teef it would cost to replace. Meanwhile, a Stompa unit secured the Ork town. Landraider Lascannon fire bounced off their thickened armoured hulls but was unable to find a weak spot.
The Legion Commander looked at the forces arrayed, and in particular the fearsome, smoke-belching monstrosity of the approaching Gargant, and spoke the command to withdraw Imperial forces. They had already lost a Warhound Titan, and the Land Raider company was starting to take heavy losses. Futhermore, their own anti-armour units, the only ones really with a chance of damaging the Orks, were poorly positioned across the other side of the battlefield, while a row of rapidly moving red dots on the auspex showed Ork fast attack units had outflanked his forces and were destroying the Legion artillery. The Orks of this world still had some fight in them, it seemed, and the compliance of Zeta-Five-Zero would not be achieved on this day..
This weekend i'm gonna do some demo games for some friends. Gotta build up the epic community from scratch here
I spent the weekend prepping. Printed out rules and crafted blast markers and templates. I have the minis for the first 5 practice scenarios in the book (i'll proxy the additional predators with my whirlwinds, no way I'm getting 16 predator destructors).
Did lots of solo practice games on a living room table to sharpen my rules skills.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, fantastic batrep @Pacific!
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Brutal, but kunning!
2023/02/16 15:56:16
Subject: Re:Epic and Epic 30k thread - show it off.
I've just reread this whole thread again, so much good content in here!
Posted this to my painting log, but it never sees very much traffic so reposting here as well!
I'd Somehow missed this one from my last Ork update. A little while back I painted a new version of the battlewagon (got quite a few more to do, but always like to do a test one first) and made some more ork terrain, this time from 40ks 2nd edition era! Some tiny spikey things!
Battlewagon is from Vanguard.
I need to get back to painting more Epic at a faster pace. I started putting all my Epic stash together in one spot for the first time ever, and turns out I'd gone slightly crazier with purchases over the lockdowns than I had realised at the time!
Those look great RexHavoc! Definitely very 2nd-ed 40k. Love the strong colours on the battlewagon as well.
Gitdakka wrote: This weekend i'm gonna do some demo games for some friends. Gotta build up the epic community from scratch here
I spent the weekend prepping. Printed out rules and crafted blast markers and templates. I have the minis for the first 5 practice scenarios in the book (i'll proxy the additional predators with my whirlwinds, no way I'm getting 16 predator destructors).
Great work, did you have any luck getting some new converts to the God's own scale?
Malika2 wrote:Loving what you did with my Renegade tank design!
Thanks! I did have to add the barrels and ammo crates to the 'command' tank, I love tiny stowage! I'm not sure that the kit I used for the bits was meant to be used this way, but they are a perfect fit! I may or may not have to add some aerials as well in the future! I love this range of tiny tanks, I hope we do get to see more variations in the future!
Pacific wrote:Those look great RexHavoc! Definitely very 2nd-ed 40k. Love the strong colours on the battlewagon as well.
Thank you! I tried for years to paint in a more realistic, or grim dark way. Never got the hang of it (outside a couple of decent test models here or there) and just decided to lean heavily into the obscene colour schemes more! I think the mix of metals and yellow panels don't quite cross over to the old 2nd ed assault on the eyes that the orc colour schemes, but I think its a nice compromise!
Thanks! I did have to add the barrels and ammo crates to the 'command' tank, I love tiny stowage! I'm not sure that the kit I used for the bits was meant to be used this way, but they are a perfect fit! I may or may not have to add some aerials as well in the future! I love this range of tiny tanks, I hope we do get to see more variations in the future!
I feel that folks should use my designs however they want. I'm a big fan of kitbashing, so whatever you come up with is cool.
Renegade versions of the Dragon MkII, and these (1, 2, and 3) have been submitted to Vanguard Miniatures. No clue when they'll be put in production, let alone be released though!
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Painted a pair of GW warhound titans and did a round of playtesting. They were no match for a pair of tactical formations.
Automatically Appended Next Post: By the way, how do you handle counting void shields and damage on war engines? I used dice, but it feels a bit messy.
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We use tiny (tiny!) little dice and just place them on a spot on the base.
I do miss the old rotating card shield tracks though, I am surprised that someone like Battlebling hasn't done them in a few different sizes, I am sure there are probably enough people using the Titans for Epic that they would sell well.
Finally got to play the big expo/participation game at Firestorm Games in Cardiff yesterday. Had a good number of people turn up to give Epic a go and a lot more stop to have a look at the game. Most importantly, a lot of dice were rolled and (hopefully) fun was had!
Am still a bit dazed from the activities, but before I lose of memory of what happened in the game some quick highlights.
A few of the photos are lifted from the Firestorm Games Facebook page, hence the watermark. The game played with Epic Space Marine/Titan Legions, with some NetEpic elements, rather than Epic 40,000 as the logo suggests.
The 12th Legion World Eaters and the forces of Warlord Mutarg setup, just before the game started. Approx 20,000pts were present on 12ft of tabletop.
The two Warhounds and a tactical Company moved up one flank. A Steam-Gargant bellygun shot took out one of the Warhounds at the knee, bringing it crashing to the ground, while the centre ground was an absolute bloodbath. By the end of the game the entire Marine company and an Evil Sunz Clan had effectively wiped each other out. A Mekboy Dragster with experimental forcefield annoyingly stymied the attentions of an entire Land Raider company, until a Fellblade annihilator cannon shot went through the flickering shield, the gun living up to its name.
The Warlord 'Pugnus Mortis' dominated the battlefield centre supported by Robots, Dreadnoughts, Androids, and a Marine Battle Company! Combined with supporting artillery fire the Ork Goff clan facing them was pulverised. One notable moment was a Mekboy Gargant which somehow managed to survive two turns of the Warlord's Plasma Destructor, and had great fun flinging about the Rhinos of the battle company with its lifta-droppa arm, and making scrap piles. The Warlord should have had some opposition from the Great Gargant opposite it...
First shots of the game: The Shadowsword company opposite the Gargant opened fire with their volcano cannons. They hit the Gargant, which should have been protected by its power fields, right? They would have, had both shots which hit not got the 1 in 6 chance of going straight through the flickering power fields! The shots smashed two deep holes in the hull, causing a massive fire which hit the magazine. Although the Ork krew onboard tried to control the fires (pretty much for the rest of the game, although the Gargant effectively just sat there smoking and not really doing much!) the fires eventually hit the belly-gun high-ex ammo and the giant machine disappeared in a massive explosion.
Some other highlights of the game: - The beastmen company holding an objective in the middle of a built-up area started to take heavy casualties from Squig Katapult hits, who it seemed very much liked the taste of the abhumans. About to withdraw, the nearby Field Police unit ordered them to remain in the fray. However, the beastmen didn't take kindly to the orders and killed the police unit!
- The Berserker unit emerged from their termites directly in the centre of the Snakebite clan. The chain-axes revved, choppers chopped, and when the dust settled only the Berserkers remained. But they were then all cut down from fire from the circle of other Orks who were waiting for the outcome of the combat!
- The Weirdboy tower played with fire and absorbed a huge amount of psychic energy, hitting the Reaver Titan with a tremendous outpouring of energy. All of the Reavers shields were stripped down one by one, and the final shot hit the Titan's legs, fusing them together and immobilising the titan for the rest of the game!
Result of the game A draw! (Well, a minor to the Orks as they held the most objectives) Both armies had taken enormous casualties. For the forces of the Crusade, although the Ork defence of the world was broken, their Legion contingent had taken severe losses. This far away in the galactic rim it would place the compliance of the remaining worlds of the system in serious jeopardy, forcing the expedition to either wait for reinforcements or press on with their Imperial Army and Titan Legion forces. As for the Orks..
Warlord Mutarg brushed at the burn marks on his armour as he emerged from his 'escape kapsule'. Behind him, the guttering remains of his Great Gargant smoldered. He made a mental note for the Mekboy that had designed the vehicle's power fields to be turned into squig food! A small group of other Goff Nobz approached, they had taken a good kickin' against the white and blue armour boyz as well and didn't look too happy, especially after his Gargant had completely failed to give the requested support. Mutarg noticed his rival Warboss Mutilla was among them. And he seemed to be acting a bit suspiciously, while trying to hide his big kustom-blaster behind his back..
Finally a shot of me and the guys (complete with themed t-shirts!) that made the day possible! This game had been a hobby dream of mine since I was a teenager, it's take a fair few decades but we have finally got to play it!
Have to say I now feel a bit empty as this was a project that absorbed so much of my free time over previous months - what am I now meant to do with my life!
Great work, Paz! Congratulations for realising your dream there, remember to put new things on that bucket list now that it's ticking ominously towards completion
Thanks a lot for the comments guys, really appreciated! Yes I do need something else on the Bucketlist now Sherrypie haha. I am going to take a break from Epic now for a short while (funnily enough to do some smaller projects, in scope if not in scale!) but have given thought to next games. I have always really wanted to do a Squat army and now Onslaught miniatures have a tremendous range, with Land Trains, Airships etc. So I might give them the Orks as the opponent and make some themed Squat fortress terrain, in a kind of Battle for Golgotha from the old WD battle report, but brought into the modern age. Will have to give it some thought!
Those look great Gitdakka, nicely detailed. Are you going to do anything for vehicle options for them?
Pacific wrote: Thanks a lot for the comments guys, really appreciated! Yes I do need something else on the Bucketlist now Sherrypie haha. I am going to take a break from Epic now for a short while (funnily enough to do some smaller projects, in scope if not in scale!) but have given thought to next games. I have always really wanted to do a Squat army and now Onslaught miniatures have a tremendous range, with Land Trains, Airships etc. So I might give them the Orks as the opponent and make some themed Squat fortress terrain, in a kind of Battle for Golgotha from the old WD battle report, but brought into the modern age. Will have to give it some thought!
Those look great Gitdakka, nicely detailed. Are you going to do anything for vehicle options for them?
Thanks! I got some fighta bombers from vanguard aswell and have painted some of them.
For tanks and dredds i ordered some printed ones from scourge scenics, i have not gotten them yet though, so i do not know the quality yet. But some example pictures of their minis cataloge below.
Lastly stompas and gargants I'll try to scratch build. Time will tell how that goes
Brutal, but kunning!
2023/04/03 19:48:44
Subject: Re:Epic and Epic 30k thread - show it off.
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Epic 40k + INQ6 Project Log 
INQ28/Necromunda/Inquisimunda Log 
Yes I do need something else on the Bucketlist now Sherrypie haha. I am going to take a break from Epic now for a short while (funnily enough to do some smaller projects, in scope if not in scale!) but have given thought to next games. I have always really wanted to do a Squat army and now Onslaught miniatures have a tremendous range, with Land Trains, Airships etc. So I might give them the Orks as the opponent and make some themed Squat fortress terrain, in a kind of Battle for Golgotha from the old 
