Which SM chapters do the other chapters make fun of?

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**Phyrekzhogos**

I was looking up different founding chapters on wikia to see if anything caught my eye that I'd wanna build outside of First Founding chapters. In the Second Founding list I ran across http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Yellow_Jackets and immediately thought... those poor dudes.

*My instant silly thought*

When they show up in a warzone, I keep imagining the commander of operations seeing their request to be included and just being like "Ahh. Uhhm. No. Errr. No, it's....alright guys, we're....pretty sure we got this handled. Just, you know. Thanks for the offer. *click*

Maybe they show up to help a besieged planetary government and the governor is like "Well I mean, I guess they can help us. I mean "some" space marines is better than no space marines, right guys?" His Imperial advisers just stare at him. "Well sir, lets just.... mmmm you know, accept the help but maybe we don't mention them in the official report?" "Why, that's a fantastic idea!" replies the Governor. "Could we keep sending out the astropathic distress signal though? I mean, maybe we could get some Blood Angels or Ultramarines still."

Excerpt from [random chapter captain] of "any other first founding chapter" conversation.
"Sir, we've received a report of intense fighting on a recently arrived Space Hulk. Apparently there's the possibility of a genestealer infestation near [random local world] and the only defense is a nearby ship of the Yellow Jackets Chapter. I've never even heard of them." says the chapter serf comm operator.
"Hnnnng, yeah I've never heard of them either. And genestealers are bad for business. [random local world] will probably need a hand, so we'd better go save them all." says the [random chapter captain] "Save the [random local world] or the Yellow Jackets?" asks the chapter serf.
"Yes." replies the [random chapter captain].

So which chapters do other chapters make fun of? I know, I know. Grimdark, no space marines would make fun of other space marines. Well I like imagining they do, so who do you imagine would get the short end of the stick?

**Great White**

I imagine the Dark Angels and Space Wolves make fun of each other like petty children. And I'm sure other chapters make fun of them for it

**lcmiracle**

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Reds8n

But I'd assume the Rainbow Warriors is probably the most made fun of chapter in-universe, mostly due to the fact that they've got a very stupid name for a group of (supposed) "Angels of Death", and also being the first official chapter (IRL) to have been canonically written to be purged.

**Psienesis**

Blood Ravens.

Search your feelings, you know this to be true.

**Veteran Sergeant**

Phyrekzhogos wrote:
I was looking up different founding chapters on wikia to see if anything caught my eye that I'd wanna build outside of First Founding chapters. In the Second Founding list I ran across http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Yellow_Jackets and immediately thought... those poor dudes.

That's a fan fiction chapter that came from a White Dwarf painting contest. It doesn't actually exist in the fluff.

**Phyrekzhogos**

Veteran Sergeant wrote:
That's a fan fiction chapter that came from a White Dwarf painting contest. It doesn't actually exist in the fluff.

Where it came from matters less to me than that it's on the wikia and I found it funny. Now you've got me just thinking... Those poor fans.

Speaking of: If I'm looking up chapters on the wikia, how do you actually tell if it's something fanmade, vs canon somewhere? Historical listings?

Excerpt communication between Abaddon the Despoiler and [random local chaos recruitment entity]

"My Lord, *sssssluurp* I bear good newsssssss. The Ssspace Marinesssss Chapter the Yellow Jacketsss are ripe for sssssedition. Other chapterss ssspurn them and laugh at them. *hacking wheeze* They aren't even allowed to crusssade. The High Lordss think they'll only hurt themselvesss. *Snort* If we move to take them under our wing, I'm sssure we can bring them to the side of our mastersss."

[random local chaos recruitment entity] looks expectantly at Abaddon with one of his outstretched eyestalks.

"Uhhhm no." said Abaddon.

*giggle* Now I'm seriously thinking about painting up a squad of these guys to use for all the worst tasks in my army. Allies? No, more along the lines of the guys I give impossible tasks to so they'll get out of the command tent.

**Slayer-Fan123**

One of the dudes from the Minotaurs made fun of the Ultramarines or something to that effect at one point.

**luky7dayz**

I mean, sisters of battle (but thats mainly just us)

**VictorVonTzeentch**

Im pretty sure that the Yellow Jackets wouldnt be made fun of considering there are chapters named Space Sharks, Space Wolves and Rainbow Warriors. They seem par for the course.

Being Unknown would more likely just lead to apprehension when it comes to working with them. So unless they absolutely didn't like them, they would save the Chapter.

Similarly a Planetary Governor would be insane to turn down the request of Astartes if he was asking for help, excepting a couple, like the Minotaurs and Flesh Tearers. Even then, it would only be if they knew the reputation.

**Wyzilla**

There was a good 1d4Chan post of the Death Guard wondering what the hell is with Loyalist naming conventions. I'll see if I can find it.

**VictorVonTzeentch**

Also considering the fan got their Chapter posted in White Dwarf and shown off to the world, because someone at GW thought they were cool, I'd highly doubt its a "those poor fans..." scenario.

I'd be estatic, my Chapter and what ever I wrote for it was published in THE magazine for the game. You bet I'd keep a copy of that issue and some of the Marines from that chapter around. Hell I'd just keep updating the army.

**Deadshot**

VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Space Sharks

*Carcharadons Astra, or Carcharadons. They only speak High Gothic, they only refer to themselves as such, and they are only refered IU as Carcharadons.

Space Wolves

Are a first founding Chapter with a long and illustrious history, their Primarch was the second ever found, their victories and honours are legendary even among Space Marines. While the Dark Angels and successors may have a feud with them, no-one would make fun of the Space Wolves.

Rainbow Warriors

Non-canon

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Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
One of the dudes from the Minotaurs made fun of the Ultramarines or something to that effect at one point.

Their Chapter Master I believe, talked about how pansy they are and had nothing but contempt for them. On the other hand, they are one of few Chapters others would actually condemn for their brutality and psychoness, and the Ultramarines are widely respected.

**Phyrekzhogos**

Wyzilla wrote:
There was a good 1d4Chan post of the Death Guard wondering what the hell is with Loyalist naming conventions. I'll see if I can find it.

You know I think I actually remember that, because I thought it was really funny at the time.

Something about them wondering why chaos had more chapters with names like The Emperors Children and a couple others, while loyalist chapters had more names like Flesh Tearers and Blood Drinkers and such?

**VictorVonTzeentch**

Deadshot wrote:
VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Space Sharks

*Carcharadons Astra, or Carcharadons. They only speak High Gothic, they only refer to themselves as such, and they are only refered IU as Carcharadons.

They were around long before FW made them the Carcharadons, and were known as the Space Sharks and only the Space Sharks.

Are a first founding Chapter with a long and illustrious history, their Primarch was the second ever found, their victories and honours are legendary even among Space Marines. While the Dark Angels and successors may have a feud with them, no-one would make fun of the Space Wolves.

Doesn't make their name any less silly.

Non-canon

So non-cannon the Chapter and their Homeworld are mentioned in the 5th Edition and 6th Edition Space Marine Codexes. Have a mentioned Chapter Master, official art work and are Successors of the Ultramarines.

Anyway my point was that the Yellow Jackets are no less silly than any other Chapter.

**Wyzilla**

Phyrekzhogos wrote:
Wyzilla wrote:
There was a good 1d4Chan post of the Death Guard wondering what the hell is with Loyalist naming conventions. I'll see if I can find it.

You know I think I actually remember that, because I thought it was really funny at the time.

Something about them wondering why chaos had more chapters with names like The Emperors Children and a couple others, while loyalist chapters had more names like Flesh Tearers and Blood Drinkers and such?

Yeah, that one. Typhus wondering why the Marines Malevolent and Flesh Tearers aren't on his side.

**Phyrekzhogos**

VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Also considering the fan got their Chapter posted in White Dwarf and shown off to the world, because someone at GW thought they were cool, I'd highly doubt its a "those poor fans..." scenario.

I'd be estatic, my Chapter and what ever I wrote for it was published in THE magazine for the game. You bet I'd keep a copy of that issue and some of the Marines from that chapter around. Hell I'd just keep updating the army.

Hey, I'd keep a copy of it too, if I got a chapter in White Dwarf, I'm not picking on paint skill. I didn't even realize it was fan made til someone mentioned it, just saw it in the wikia. It's a funny name too me though regardless. Like naming my chapter The Corgies or the Pufferfish or something else vaguely not all that threatening. In any case, in my mind, I'm very much making a joke of it, hence the quotes I keep imagining up. Don't take me too seriously man. I certainly don't.

**King Pariah**

I know it's fan made but the Flesh Helms off of 1d4chan.

Everybody makes fun of the Flesh Helms

**Veteran Sergeant**

VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Deadshot wrote:
VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Space Sharks

*Carcharadons Astra, or Carcharadons. They only speak High Gothic, they only refer to themselves as such, and they are only refered IU as Carcharadons.

They were around long before FW made them the Carcharadons, and were known as the Space Sharks and only the Space Sharks.

Yeah, they're Space Sharks. High Gothic isn't a real language. It doesn't matter what the name is in "High Gothic" Fake Latin. For the same reason the universe doesn't have Lupi Astra or Angelorum Sanguis, etc.

The Anatinos Iratos are still the Angry Platypi. Forgeworld trying to sexy the name up for the kiddies by translating it to Latin doesn't change what it means.

**Phyrekzhogos**

Veteran Sergeant wrote:

The Anatinos Iratos are still the Angry Platypi. Forgeworld trying to sexy the name up for the kiddies by translating it to Latin doesn't change what it means.

Wait, is that an actual chapter? I realize I may be being super naive here. I've never really delved into Forgeworld very much.

**VictorVonTzeentch**

Phyrekzhogos wrote:
VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Also considering the fan got their Chapter posted in White Dwarf and shown off to the world, because someone at GW thought they were cool, I'd highly doubt its a "those poor fans..." scenario.

I'd be estatic, my Chapter and what ever I wrote for it was published in THE magazine for the game. You bet I'd keep a copy of that issue and some of the Marines from that chapter around. Hell I'd just keep updating the army.

Hey, I'd keep a copy of it too, if I got a chapter in White Dwarf, I'm not picking on paint skill. I didn't even realize it was fan made til someone mentioned it, just saw it in the wikia. It's a funny name too me though regardless. Like naming my chapter The Corgies or the Pufferfish or something else vaguely not all that threatening. In any case, in my mind, I'm very much making a joke of it, hence the quotes I keep imagining up. Don't take me too seriously man. I certainly don't.

You seem to be missing that I am not saying its super serous, but that it is just as silly as most other names for Space Marine chapters.

Also, Yellow Jackets are pretty fricking angry and who's to say the planet doesn't have huge Yellow Jackets. I'd say Rainbow Warriors would be closer to The Corgies.

I mean seriously, RAINBOW.

**Phyrekzhogos**

VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

I mean seriously, RAINBOW.

Oh my. I had to go look that up. I hadn't ever actually heard of them before this thread, and I thought ya'll were joking.

**Computron**

That would be the Death Knockers Chapter.
In M38 they rescued the Imperial Saint Lena Konwu.
In honour they were awarded the Saint's Blessing and changed their name to St. Lena's Knockers.

**jreilly89**

Space Wolves. Seriously, they are the furry fetish personified.

**Veteran Sergeant**

Phyrekzhogos wrote:
Veteran Sergeant wrote:

The Anatinos Iratos are still the Angry Platypi. Forgeworld trying to sexy the name up for the kiddies by translating it to Latin doesn't change what it means.

Wait, is that an actual chapter? I realize I may be being super naive here. I've never really delved into Forgeworld very much.

No. Just highlighting how converting a name into Latin doesn't change what the name actually is.

The Space Sharks are actually the only chapter in all of 40K with a Latinized name.

**Computron**

Veteran Sergeant wrote:
Phyrekzhogos wrote:
Veteran Sergeant wrote:

The Anatinos Iratos are still the Angry Platypi. Forgeworld trying to sexy the name up for the kiddies by translating it to Latin doesn't change what it means.

Wait, is that an actual chapter? I realize I may be being super naive here. I've never really delved into Forgeworld very much.
No. Just highlighting how converting a name into Latin doesn't change what the name actually is.

The Space Sharks are actually the only chapter in all of 40K with a Latinized name.

Carcharodon Astra - though carcharodon is not latin for shark. It's from a greek word meaning sharp/jagged tooth and only applies to one genus of shark which has only a single species - the Great White Shark.

I don't know what the latin for shark would be but sharks in english used to be called sea dogs.
Would Space Fish be a good name for a chapter? Sharks are fish afterall.

**ImAGeek**

I think Megaladon is speculatively part of the Carcharodon genus too. But yeah. They don't have a latinised name, they have a Latin name. And it doesn't mean 'Space Sharks' it means 'Space Carcharodons'. So... They aren't called the Space Sharks.

**Rippy**

You are offtopic!

I would say alot of Chapters would laugh at the Ultrasmurfs behind their back due to their strict adherence to the Codex Astartes and quite a few chapters see themselves a bit above it. Though I am sure most would be very greatful to have their help! Except of course thr Minotaurs

**BrianDavion**

Rippy wrote:
You are offtopic!

I would say alot of Chapters would laugh at the Ultrasmurfs behind their back due to their strict adherence to the Codex Astartes and quite a few chapters see themselves a bit above it. Though I am sure most would be very greatful to have their help! Except of course thr Minotaurs

some of the more Liberal chapters like the space wolves very likely do at least.

**angelofvengeance**

Dark Angels seem to poke fun at Grey Knights and Space Wolves about their use of Prognosticars and Rune-casters (rune priest) a bit. (Source: Ascension of Balthasar audio drama)

**ChazSexington**

"My Lord, I bring news."
Typhus Marburg paused in his study of the situation map of the dreary little planet his forces were engaged in ravaging. "Yes?"
"Lord. Starships have appeared in the outer system and are on course for a landing. They have been identified as elements of the Flesh Tearers."
"Yeah? Tell them to sod off and find their own world. Tell 'em we got here first."
"Sire, you misunderstand. They are here to defend this world!"
"What! Why? It's a sorry state of affairs when the followers of Chaos start to defend the weakling Imperium from each other!"
"Um, Lord... the Flesh Tearers are a loyalist chapter."
"They are? With a name like that! Are you sure they're not one of ours?"
"Positive, My Lord."
"Have you been able to call for any assistance?"
"The Astropaths have contacted other forces nearby. Unfortunately this has also alerted other loyalist forces in the sector and they are also headed our way."
"Bugger. So who gets here first then?"
"The Alpha Legion, sire."
"It never rains, it only pours, hey?"
"Umm..."
"What!"
"The Alpha Legion is one of ours."
"It is?!"
"Yes."
"I'm confused. You're telling me that a mob called the 'Flesh Tearers' isn't one of ours but a mob called the - what was it again..."
"The Alpha Legion, sire."
"Right... a mob called the Alpha Legion is one of ours."
"That is correct, sire."
"So who else is showing up to this barney then?"
"The Blood Drinkers."
"One of ours?"
"One of theirs."
"OK."
"The Iron Warriors."
"One of theirs?"
"No. One of ours."
"Go figure."
"The Dark Angels."
"Now I've heard of them. Followers of Slaanesh aren't they?"
"No, I think you're thinking of The Fallen, sire. The Dark Angels are Loyalists too."
"Bugger. So who else then?"
"The Emperor's Children."
"Oh, that one's too easy. They're obviously loyalists with a name like that."
"Um, not exactly my Lord."
"Really?"
"Yes, Lord. They're one of ours too."
"This is silly. All the really evil sounding names are being used by weakling loyalists while it seems as though the forces of chaos have got the naff monikers. Are there any more of these I should know about?"
"A few, Lord."
"OK then, spell it out for me, starting with Loyalists that sound like traitors and then moving onto traitors that sound like Loyalists."
"I will attempt to do so, Lord. OK - the Loyalists that sound like traitors... the Marauders, Rampagers, Destroyers and Storm Lords (all White Scar second foundings in point of fact)."
"I like the sound of the Storm Lords. You sure they aren't one of ours?"
"Quite sure. Then there's the Blood Drinkers and the Flesh Tearers - both of which are Loyalist second founding of the Blood Angels."
"With names like that I'd always assumed they were more bone headed followers of the blood god."
"Not so far, My Lord. Then there's the Red Talons..."
"I thought they were renegade pirates."
"No Lord, that's the Red Corsairs."
"Oh. OK. Continue."
"The Brazen Claws are loyalists too."
"Good name for a Khornate force though isn't it?"
"Yes Lord. Then there's the Black Guard (not to be confused with the Black Legion which IS one of ours), the Revilers, and the Raptors."
"Hold on a minute! The Raptors? They're definitely ours. Hell we've got a small unit of them attached to our forces haven't we?"
"My Lord, those are the troops known as Raptors but there is also a loyalist legion with the same name."
"Must get a bit confusing for the loyalists then?"
"I imagine so, My Lord. There are also the Doom Eagles, the Silver Skulls, and the Iron Hands (not to be mistaken for the Iron Warriors, who are ours)."
"Bloody hell. Is that it?"
"There are also some lesser known chapters that also seem to cause occasional confusion."
"Such as..."
"The Doomfarers are one that our forces have occasionally encountered."
"Oh yeah. Those yoyos. So what about the Chaos forces that sound like loyalists then..."
"Well as mentioned earlier there are The Emperor's Children, The Iron
Warriors, the Thousand Sons, the Lunar Wolves (who changed their name to the Sons of Horus and then to the Black Legion)..."
"Well at least they're easily IDed as one of ours now. The Black Legion eh? Now that's a proper name. Just positively oozes evil from every pore."
"Yes, Lord. To continue, there are also the Word Bearers, and the Alpha Legion."
"The Word Bearers? What kind of silly name is that for a Chaos Legion?"
"They used to be missionaries sire"
"Well you'd think that once they switched to our side they'd change their name to something a little more in keeping with being evil mad men. I mean come on 'The Word Bearers'? It's a silly name."
"Yes my Lord"
"You know, I think the forces of Chaos should have proper Chaos names. There's no room for mistakes when you're called something like 'The World Eaters' or 'The Death Guard'..."
"Actually Lord, both those chapters had those names when they were loyalists."
"You're kidding."
"No, My Lord."
"Yeesh. I would have thought names like that would be a bit scary for the average imperial citizen. I mean "Yay we're being rescued by the World Eaters" just doesn't sound credible while "Aargh! Flee! It's the World Eaters" seems much more likely."
"Yes, My Lord. I believe the latter is more likely these days anyway."
"Makes no bloody sense at all."
"Yes, My Lord."
"Kill 'em all and let the Chaos Gods sort 'em out I say."
"Sounds like a completely reasonable approach to me, My Lord."
~ Swarm

But yeah, UMs seem to get some stick.

And I like the Yellow Jackets! :(