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kingheff wrote:
I've seen a rumour that the witch king in aos may be revealed as a new chaos god. Maybe vect is being lined up for the same?


Nah, that was a mistake in the book (as per the author of the book). Malerion isn’t a new Chaos god.
   
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That picture of Drazhar looks too similar to the Klaivex we saw the other day. It's effectively a Klaivex with a ponytail. Hopefully the actual Drazhar miniature would look more elaborate with unique 'phoenix lord' weapons. Double Skull daggers for example.
   
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So nobody else noticed the reaper floating in the middle? It looks like a reaper anyway. I wonder if they are making a new kit?

All I can think of is a reaper but it looks different slightly is why I wonder if they are redesigning it or maybe dare I say it could be a Dais... I wish anyway. The rear pontoon blades are huge compared to the FW model.

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 Marshal Loss wrote:
New Drazhar vs. Jain Zar

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 Elbows wrote:
The White Scars are probably the least respected Chapter with regards to rules/army builds. There is room in 40K for a "bike army" (outside of Custodes). Bikes for troops, loads of special rules, etc.

Yes but White Scars cannot be it because then it would cannibalize the white green marines! It's more important to give dark angels YET MORE STUPID.
GW is bad.

 
   
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Sterling191 wrote:

The piece is explicitly named "Drahzar vs. Jain Zar". It's a GW print from 2018.

https://warhammerart.com/shop/warhammer-40000/alien-xenos/drahzar-vs-jain-zar/

Ah, I see.

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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
 Elbows wrote:
The White Scars are probably the least respected Chapter with regards to rules/army builds. There is room in 40K for a "bike army" (outside of Custodes). Bikes for troops, loads of special rules, etc.

Yes but White Scars cannot be it because then it would cannibalize the white green marines! It's more important to give dark angels YET MORE STUPID.
GW is bad.

How about we instead don't make YET another marine army?
And first release Sisters and FW indexes (including Corsairs) propperly?


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 ImAGeek wrote:
kingheff wrote:
I've seen a rumour that the witch king in aos may be revealed as a new chaos god. Maybe vect is being lined up for the same?


Nah, that was a mistake in the book (as per the author of the book). Malerion isn’t a new Chaos god.


Thanks for clearing that up, it would certainly cause a bit of tension between the craftworlders and the dark kin if they went full chaos.
   
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 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Isn't it rumored that Drazhar is the founder of the Striking Scorpions? As in, the original Phoenix Lord? If so, Jain doesn't have an ice cube's chance in hell against him.


Asurman is believed to be the first Phoenix Lord. Arha was the original *scorpion* Phoenix Lord.
   
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My Phoenix Lord would beat up your Phoenix Lord!

Jain just needs a 3+ to disarm him.

Also prepare to smash them piggybanks.

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I don't think I've been this excited for a model release in ages.
For some reason these new Eldar releases are very fun, probably because they are sadly so rare.
   
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 Mr Morden wrote:
 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Isn't it rumored that Drazhar is the founder of the Striking Scorpions? As in, the original Phoenix Lord? If so, Jain doesn't have an ice cube's chance in hell against him.


Even if that is the case - they are both the same then?
Maybe? Do the various Phoenix Lords pass on their experiences each time they overwrite the mind of an Exarch? If so, then yes. They would be on even playing field (though the Striking Scorpions booted their original Phoenix Lord, Arhra, out because he was TOO brutal in an aspect noted for its brutality). If not, it is implied Drazhar is the original Arhra. Not a reincarnation like Jain Zar. He is THE guy. So Jain would be fighting an uphill battle.


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Eumerin wrote:
 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Isn't it rumored that Drazhar is the founder of the Striking Scorpions? As in, the original Phoenix Lord? If so, Jain doesn't have an ice cube's chance in hell against him.


Asurman is believed to be the first Phoenix Lord. Arha was the original *scorpion* Phoenix Lord.
That is what I meant. He is the original Phoenix Lord of the Striking Scorpions. That they kicked out because he was too awesome.

At any rate, the cool thing it is Eldar vs Dark Eldar. The even cooler thing is that the Dark Eldar is actually the Eldar and the Eldar is actually the Dark Eldar.

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Little wytch Faraethil was fighting on arenas before it became a thing and was the first trained by Asurmen though. Then was Ra and then rest of them.
   
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Given the way the Eldar cultures work, there's an even chance between "kicked out" and "left for a place where he'd feel more comfortable".
   
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 casvalremdeikun wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Isn't it rumored that Drazhar is the founder of the Striking Scorpions? As in, the original Phoenix Lord? If so, Jain doesn't have an ice cube's chance in hell against him.


Even if that is the case - they are both the same then?
Maybe? Do the various Phoenix Lords pass on their experiences each time they overwrite the mind of an Exarch? If so, then yes. They would be on even playing field (though the Striking Scorpions booted their original Phoenix Lord, Arhra, out because he was TOO brutal in an aspect noted for its brutality). If not, it is implied Drazhar is the original Arhra. Not a reincarnation like Jain Zar. He is THE guy. So Jain would be fighting an uphill battle.


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Eumerin wrote:
 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Isn't it rumored that Drazhar is the founder of the Striking Scorpions? As in, the original Phoenix Lord? If so, Jain doesn't have an ice cube's chance in hell against him.


Asurman is believed to be the first Phoenix Lord. Arha was the original *scorpion* Phoenix Lord.
That is what I meant. He is the original Phoenix Lord of the Striking Scorpions. That they kicked out because he was too awesome.

At any rate, the cool thing it is Eldar vs Dark Eldar. The even cooler thing is that the Dark Eldar is actually the Eldar and the Eldar is actually the Dark Eldar.


If anything I would think Jain Zar would have the advantage vs Drazhar. She was the first disciple of Asurmen and has the knowledge and experience of every warrior to wear the armour. Though I suppose even if he is the fallen phoenix Drazhar's armour may work the same way as a normal Phoenix Lord in which case they are probably evenly matched.

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Drazhar V Karandras would have been much cooler IMHO.

   
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 Red Corsair wrote:
Drazhar V Karandras would have been much cooler IMHO.
Agreed

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 Red Corsair wrote:
Drazhar V Karandras would have been much cooler IMHO.
Agreed. But we can't have nice things.

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Well, Maugan Ra and Jain Zar are the best Phoenix Lords, so I'm glad if Jain is the first Phoenix Lord model to be updated. Drazhar is pretty lame, I really don't care about him.

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 Crimson wrote:
Well, Maugan Ra and Jain Zar are the best Phoenix Lords, so I'm glad if Jain is the first Phoenix Lord model to be updated. Drazhar is pretty lame, I really don't care about him.
Edit: Screw it, it isn't letting post an image I want. Anyway, you are entitled to your opinion. It's wrong. But you are entitled to it.

Jain hopefully getting a new model is good though. I am hoping for an Eldar v. Dark Eldar boxed set, for sure.

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So you all get that the artwork is from last year and may have absolutely no bearing on this campaign? It could just be a bit of nice art.
   
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 An Actual Englishman wrote:
So you all get that the artwork is from last year and may have absolutely no bearing on this campaign? It could just be a bit of nice art.
Depends. Do you think they commission artwork a week ahead of release time or do they get a huge lead time on paintings? If this art is from an actual product that was released, then there would be a reason to think it has nothing to do with anything. If it isn't, it is bound to pop up somewhere.

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Where did the original “Jain likely getting a model” come from?
I haven’t read all the articles and prophecy stuff or any of all that, but it is mentioned so often like it’s a dead cert..
   
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 casvalremdeikun wrote:
 An Actual Englishman wrote:
So you all get that the artwork is from last year and may have absolutely no bearing on this campaign? It could just be a bit of nice art.
Depends. Do you think they commission artwork a week ahead of release time or do they get a huge lead time on paintings?

Oh I'm quite sure they commission artwork way ahead of when it's due to release. I doubt they release that artwork to be purchased in print before the actual release itself though.
   
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Danny76 wrote:
Where did the original “Jain likely getting a model” come from?
I haven’t read all the articles and prophecy stuff or any of all that, but it is mentioned so often like it’s a dead cert..

Not certain. But the first part is called 'Phoenix Rising' and we're getting plastic banshees, so it is not exactly a far-fetched conclusion...


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Ah I see that the Jain Zar vs Drahzar artwork was added today, so it's not like it's been floating around the internet since 2018.

Lends a lot more credibility to the idea of Jain and Draz clashing and getting updated models then.

I'm not sure it'll be a new box mind, Wake the Dead wasn't that long ago.
   
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As much as I am happy we’re finally seeing plastics, I’m nervous whether the other aspects will be getting this treatment and how far spaced the releases will be if we are. I’m concerned the plastic banshees are a “test the waters” release, and if they sell poorly if the remaining aspects are in risk of being forgotten.

Most of all, I’m over GW costs. A few years ago, I would have jumped at replacing my 2E(?) metals. Now, that seems unlikely.

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Expect GW bringing their reveal forward tomorrow I guess.

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