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Damn. New Zealand prices are crazy. That box is 13% more expensive than buying the same kits individually here.

170€ would be nice but looked at the NZ store and the Rohan stronghold is 2x the cost of the black Templar Combat patrol which would make it about 220€. Will still buy at that price. Luckily Sweden have good currency exchange rate for GW product so it will probably be 8-10% cheaper than the Euro price and equal the British Pound.

Edit: my small phone screen made it so I didn't see that you guys wrote 170£ and not 170€. Only noticed after actually clicking on link. Dakka experience on phone is still lackluster. 170£ is a price I will happily pay even if there is no possibility of further discounts. Still almost 1/3 off.

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Amon Hen is up and damn that is sexy. No bare resin shots unfortunately, but the attention to detail is fantastic.
Big too,
FW wrote:- Width: 265mm
- Length: 280mm
- Height: 175mm


The price however... not so fantastic. $334AUD they want.

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I'm sorry, did someone say Easterling howdah???
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Certainly looks impressive, far from what I'd expect from Easterlings
   
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Very fething excited is how i'd describe myself!

Guessing that's the Dragom Emperor himself there.

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Seems to be a wealth of Middle Earth stuff coming out. After buying a bunch of Dol Guldur ruins and preordering a Rohan stronghold, it will be a few months before I can get Amon Sul or any of the new stuff from Defence of the North. Still, everything looks great!
   
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Vigo. Spain.

A little too over the top for whats MESBG (The golden king of abrakahm is a similar miniature and is much more tame) but still, I'm sure is gonna be a killer of a miniature.

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Am I reading this right?

On the GW website it is 170 Pounds but on the EU website it is 224 Euros… which is considerably more than the 192 Euros Google says the conversion rate should be.

Is the Rohan Stronghold only going to be able to be purchased from the GW website?

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Most stuff is 10% more expensive in Euros than Pounds. The people that pay in the different dollars have it even worse. I think the US pays equivalent of 250€, NZ 330€ and AUS something in between.

Only currency I know that is almost exactly the same is Swedish Crowns that on average is 1% within UK price. About 10-15 years ago SEK was valued as worth close 1/15th of GBP but were in fact closer to 1/10th in reality so stuff were really cheap for a few years before they updated the Swedish prices. Luckily they just corrected the conversion and didn't add anything extra like they seem to do with everyone else.

I paid equivalent of 197euro in SEK and when I Google GBP to Euro 170£ is about 198€.

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 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
Is the Rohan Stronghold only going to be able to be purchased from the GW website?

Looks like it - though I'm not sure why, when I think all the other bundles are available through third parties. Maybe they didn't do a custom box for it?

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This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

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 Dysartes wrote:
 Grumpy Gnome wrote:
Is the Rohan Stronghold only going to be able to be purchased from the GW website?

Looks like it - though I'm not sure why, when I think all the other bundles are available through third parties. Maybe they didn't do a custom box for it?


I brought it at a UK store for 10% off retail (it was marked as a direct only product) but will have to see if they can fulfil the order or not.
   
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 Snrub wrote:
Amon Hen is up and damn that is sexy. No bare resin shots unfortunately, but the attention to detail is fantastic.
Big too,
FW wrote:- Width: 265mm
- Length: 280mm
- Height: 175mm


The price however... not so fantastic. $334AUD they want.


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Dragon Emperor was a given, but I'm surprised he seems to be a diorama/big centrepiece model, seems a bit... well, Warhammer?

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Nah, not really. Not when you've already got stuff like the beasts of Gorgoroth, Golden king etc. I like the idea of someone who calls himself the Dragon Emperor goes to battle and has such an ego he would travel on a howdah like that. Gives me Xerxes vibes.

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 Arbitrator wrote:
Dragon Emperor was a given, but I'm surprised he seems to be a diorama/big centrepiece model, seems a bit... well, Warhammer?


Agree. That was my first reaction to it as well. I really dislike the centerpiece mini diorama models we have for AoS and 40k and don't want to see them make their way over to mesbg. It is of course possible that when we get the rules and a clear picture of what it really looks like they might have pulled it off well but until then I am skeptical to it.


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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Nah, not really. Not when you've already got stuff like the beasts of Gorgoroth, Golden king etc. I like the idea of someone who calls himself the Dragon Emperor goes to battle and has such an ego he would travel on a howdah like that. Gives me Xerxes vibes.


300 Xerxes?
That is exactly the problem with the model. 300 is an over the top depiction of history in the same way warhammer is over the top while lotr is trying to stay much more grounded.

Beasts of Gorgoroth is just a smaller warbeast than the Mumakil and works just like that. It is multiple models on the same base but not really different from a historical war elephant. I might be wrong but I don't know anything from history where you had a leader actually fight from a carried throne. This model is probably not just going to be in the back and lead from there but rather have good melee stats and be expected to fight on the front lines. Golden king is also a bad model for this reason and doesn't excuse them making more.

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Klickor wrote:
 Arbitrator wrote:
Dragon Emperor was a given, but I'm surprised he seems to be a diorama/big centrepiece model, seems a bit... well, Warhammer?


Agree. That was my first reaction to it as well. I really dislike the centerpiece mini diorama models we have for AoS and 40k and don't want to see them make their way over to mesbg. It is of course possible that when we get the rules and a clear picture of what it really looks like they might have pulled it off well but until then I am skeptical to it.


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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Nah, not really. Not when you've already got stuff like the beasts of Gorgoroth, Golden king etc. I like the idea of someone who calls himself the Dragon Emperor goes to battle and has such an ego he would travel on a howdah like that. Gives me Xerxes vibes.


300 Xerxes?
That is exactly the problem with the model. 300 is an over the top depiction of history in the same way warhammer is over the top while lotr is trying to stay much more grounded.

Beasts of Gorgoroth is just a smaller warbeast than the Mumakil and works just like that. It is multiple models on the same base but not really different from a historical war elephant. I might be wrong but I don't know anything from history where you had a leader actually fight from a carried throne. This model is probably not just going to be in the back and lead from there but rather have good melee stats and be expected to fight on the front lines. Golden king is also a bad model for this reason and doesn't excuse them making more.


I quite agree.

Whilst I am trying to reserve judgement until I see a proper photo, I do not have high hopes for it. And it will likely be considerably more money than I want to spend.

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Rather in the same boat myself; having a centrepiece model is visually nice, but size and practicality are also important factors (the latter in terms of transporting the model, purchasing the FW-priced model, and the design from a realistic point of view).

The conceptually similar Golden King is a good example of the same design done in a far more understated and MESBG-y way, although I strongly dislike every aspect of his rules - instead of a support piece, this unarmed figure carried by two dudes who have their hands full carrying him can somehow fight really rather well, and the same may happen here.
EDIT: For a different take, I would have loved to instead have seen this character on an Easterlingified chariot. Ornate, decorative, with no function other than to carry him around. Khand has functional chariots, and the neighbouring Easterlings could have borrowed the concept but fancied it up a little for their big boss.

In addition, I'd rather see even more and different troop types rather than some new named character - the former add a lot more interesting things to an army than a single hero figure. I think a snippet in the books mentions mounted archers; elite heavily armoured archers on horseback could have been an interesting addition.

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 Coenus Scaldingus wrote:
Rather in the same boat myself; having a centrepiece model is visually nice, but size and practicality are also important factors (the latter in terms of transporting the model, purchasing the FW-priced model, and the design from a realistic point of view).

The conceptually similar Golden King is a good example of the same design done in a far more understated and MESBG-y way, although I strongly dislike every aspect of his rules - instead of a support piece, this unarmed figure carried by two dudes who have their hands full carrying him can somehow fight really rather well, and the same may happen here.
EDIT: For a different take, I would have loved to instead have seen this character on an Easterlingified chariot. Ornate, decorative, with no function other than to carry him around. Khand has functional chariots, and the neighbouring Easterlings could have borrowed the concept but fancied it up a little for their big boss.

In addition, I'd rather see even more and different troop types rather than some new named character - the former add a lot more interesting things to an army than a single hero figure. I think a snippet in the books mentions mounted archers; elite heavily armoured archers on horseback could have been an interesting addition.


Definitely how I feel, particularly re: chariots. I wouldn't want them to completely overshadow Khand, but a variety of heavy chariot makes the most sense for the supreme ruler of a very proud martial culture. At a minimum, I'd hope there are upcoming sculpts for Black Dragon Kataphrakts, but ideally the disappearance of the plastic kit indicates a rework to include lances and bows, if not optional helmets and shields for the Black Dragons. Obviously final judgement is reserved until we see the actual model, price, and rules, but it currently feels almost like a misuse of a release slot for a very small faction
   
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Hmm, those black dragon boys could look real good in Slaves to Darkness with minimal conversion work...

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Aren't they the wrong scale?

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Vigo. Spain.

Yeah MESBG are really tiny specially compared with modern warhammer sculpts. Uruk hai are goblin sized.

 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

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Well this is cute, also a good chunk of MTO sets coming in the new year. Unfortunately nothing i would like, but there's some nice stuff there:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/12/19/classic-middle-earth-miniatures-make-their-return-to-celebrate-a-movie-milestone/
   
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Good lord, 20 years to the day?

Where has the time gone...

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Narf. Already snatched ambush at amon hen last time. Hoped for breaking of the fellowship...i need to get that sweet sweet cloaked aragorn for my rangers.

   
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Picked up Escape from Orthanc and the Battle at Khazad-dum off eBay earlier this year, and Ambush at Amon Hen from the previous MTO, but I'll probably pick up the other two.

Weathertop is the one I'm most keen for, I love the Ringwraith sculpts, but can't stand GW resin. Shame the additional four aren't exactly easy to find
   
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Tim the Biovore, I'd happily wager that the Ringwraiths will be metal casts for these - every other MTO I've placed has been, including the larger kits.

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Men there are some ugly miniatures here..
   
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You take that back!

Don't really need any of the miniature sets as I also got amon hen this year. The weathertop set is nice but I don't need anymore versions of fellowship models.

The khazad dum set is also a nostalgic piece. I had that all metal balrog. Jeez that was horrible to put together. Will be interesting to see if they cast it in metal or send the plastic version.

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Johanxp wrote:
Men there are some ugly miniatures here..
Out of genuine interest, which models are you talking about?


This will be a comparatively light MtO for me. Only need Weathertop and the Balrog if it is indeed the metal version. Already have Amon-hen, The Fellowship and Orthanc (minus the palantir). I did get all excited for a second though as I thought they were MtO'ing the old books.

Shame they are doing Amon-hen again and not Breaking of the Fellowship. Some of those minis are quite hard to come by.

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 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
You take that back!

Don't really need any of the miniature sets as I also got amon hen this year. The weathertop set is nice but I don't need anymore versions of fellowship models.

The khazad dum set is also a nostalgic piece. I had that all metal balrog. Jeez that was horrible to put together. Will be interesting to see if they cast it in metal or send the plastic version.


I'm glad i'm not the only one who remembers how disgusting that was to build. Also yeah, which models are ugly? Everything there is sublime.
   
 
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