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i'd love a blanchesque canoness

 winterman wrote:
They said printed codexes. Inquistion SoB and LotD have 6ed digital codexes. They will now have printed dataslates.

THat's my interpretetion of it as well.

Dudeface wrote:
I'd advise

I'm not interested in your advice.

 Melissia wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/12/05/no-one-suspects-the/

Assuming it's true, this pretty much confirms what I just said.

Assuming this is true? You know this website is ran by GW right? That's straight from the source and you're still skeptical?

No mention of stormtroopers though.

Because they're called Tempestus Scions now.

And with Acolyte squads being uber-customizable, do you need the full squad, aside from as a suicide element?

Personally happy that there'll be physical rules for SoB/Inq/Assassins. In my local meta, those factions are notoriously abused by cheaters who exploit the fact our store doesn't have a copy on hand for easy reference and frequently have excuses as to why they don't have have their rules on them ("m-my tablet died! :^) ").

Also, as a looong time Inquisition player (Daemonhunters were my first army) eager to see what the inq updates (if any) are like. More henchman customisation and a proper invuln for inquisitors would be greatly appreciated!

I feel reassured after that warhammer community post. I was starting to think that some / all of my henchmen were going to be invalidated. Updated rules for them would be nice but I don't want them to lose their character or variety of unit possibilities. I also hope you can still take Henchmen units that don't have to have an Inquisitor in the unit.

I have an Ordo Xenos army made up of the Inquisition, Deathwatch and Astra Militarum codices. Apart from using one less book I'm not sure what advantage this codex is going to give me. Some cool formations that encourage you to focus on just one Ordo would be cool though. I.e. You can take Grey Knights in your Ordo Xenos force but you won't get the formation bonuses if you do that.

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

 Melissia wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/12/05/no-one-suspects-the/

Assuming it's true, this pretty much confirms what I just said.

Assuming this is true? You know this website is ran by GW right?

GW has been wrong about GW's own releases in the past.

See: plastic Sisters of Battle.

in other news am I the only one who is a bit anxious that there are still no "leaks" one week before the release....

The logical reason is that they may simply have nothing new to tease other than the book itself.

 oldzoggy wrote:
in other news am I the only one who is a bit anxious that there are still no "leaks" one week before the release....

One week before pre-order isn't it?

 Melissia wrote:

GW has been wrong about GW's own releases in the past.

See: plastic Sisters of Battle.

I don't think that they are wrong with their one week pre release commercials.
But I am totally agreeing with your, lets see it first before we get hyped up attitude. Mork only knows what they have done to our armies, or what they are going to do to or models.


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Loopstah wrote:

 oldzoggy wrote:
in other news am I the only one who is a bit anxious that there are still no "leaks" one week before the release....

One week before pre-order isn't it?

No idea, next week that is all I know

GW com site wrote:Next week, they get much needed aid, in the form of Codex: Imperial Agents.

As for the release, I'm rather dubious of this book. As a CSM player, while I fully admit Games Workshop has been performing much better over the past year and a half, I would like to point out that I have to carry around a library at the moment in order to play my army.

I need to carry:
CSM Dex
Traitors Hate
Black Legion/ Crimson Slaughter
Wrath of Magnus
Chaos Deamons
And Codex Traitor Legions.

I mean half of the rules in the Wrath of Magnus book aren't even listed in that book!

I tend to think that Games Workshop is getting a little carried away with books these days. I mean think about it, how many codexes do you need to drag around as an imperial player now?

 Togusa wrote:
As for the release, I'm rather dubious of this book. As a CSM player, while I fully admit Games Workshop has been performing much better over the past year and a half, I would like to point out that I have to carry around a library at the moment in order to play my army.

I need to carry:
CSM Dex
Traitors Hate
Black Legion/ Crimson Slaughter
Wrath of Magnus
Chaos Deamons
And Codex Traitor Legions.

I mean half of the rules in the Wrath of Magnus book aren't even listed in that book!

I tend to think that Games Workshop is getting a little carried away with books these days. I mean think about it, how many codexes do you need to drag around as an imperial player now?

Aren't all the rules for the Black Legion, Traitor's Hate and the 1ksons part of WoM rolled into Traitor Legions? Meaning you'd only need the CSM Dex, Crimson Slaughter and Traitor Legions for a Marine force? Obviously youd still need Daemons and WoM for CSM and Daemons.

Seriously though. Planning on getting the book, just finished painting that killteam, gotta keep them up-to-date.

Pretty much a perfect release for me since its alll Imperium, err day. Also loving that update to the retinue and Ordo Hereticus Inq can take a squad of SoB with em, its like GW knows my needs.

Thinking more and more how awesome af a proper henchmen kit would be, Sigmar I need it.

 troy_tempest wrote:
i'd love a blanchesque canoness

Yeah me to, that would be lovely.

Hmmm
I wonder if GW will use Scion models for Henchmen?
They used IG Stormtroopers for Henchmen in the Last Codex...

No new models sounds disappointing... But I hope that it only means a full scale SoB release nest year.

Resin Canoness sounds weird... I think earlier rumour said plastic. I hope the talk about limited edition is bogus at least. I'd have to hoard bunch of them if that was the case.

I really hope Inquisition rules get updated, they sorely need it. But as long as this book finally lets me give my inquisitors invulnerable saves (other than the termie armour) I'm getting it!

I'm just hoping the Inquisition gets Storm Troopers back (as a troops choice even- that would be grand for helping the Inquisition in Kill Team as they have no troops). I have a fair few of them that refuse to work for the Tempestus Scions, stating that they never learned how to deep strike.

That said, I really just hope that some of the options from the Witch Hunters and Daemon Hunters book retinues get added back to the Inquisition.

 Crimson wrote:
No new models sounds disappointing... But I hope that it only means a full scale SoB release nest year.

Resin Canoness sounds weird... I think earlier rumour said plastic. I hope the talk about limited edition is bogus at least. I'd have to hoard bunch of them if that was the case.

I really hope Inquisition rules get updated, they sorely need it. But as long as this book finally lets me give my inquisitors invulnerable saves (other than the termie armour) I'm getting it!

that's the spirit. No new models this week. I'm certain we'll get those plastic SoB in 2017 but curious to see how big a release. When WoM letter came it seemed like a book and the Rubrics. Was totally surprised to see termies, exalted sorcerers, tzaangors and Ahriman!

Sounds like you can run an Inquisitorial detachment with Troops from the militant orders (at least the one that is connected to the Ordo your Inquisitor is from). Henchmen are still elites. It really makes me wonder where this Cannoness model fits in.

For the work blocked, it isn't a replacement for the print codexes for Deathwatch or Grey Knights.

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

 Togusa wrote:
As for the release, I'm rather dubious of this book. As a CSM player, while I fully admit Games Workshop has been performing much better over the past year and a half, I would like to point out that I have to carry around a library at the moment in order to play my army.

I need to carry:
CSM Dex
Traitors Hate
Black Legion/ Crimson Slaughter
Wrath of Magnus
Chaos Deamons
And Codex Traitor Legions.

I mean half of the rules in the Wrath of Magnus book aren't even listed in that book!

I tend to think that Games Workshop is getting a little carried away with books these days. I mean think about it, how many codexes do you need to drag around as an imperial player now?

Aren't all the rules for the Black Legion, Traitor's Hate and the 1ksons part of WoM rolled into Traitor Legions? Meaning you'd only need the CSM Dex, Crimson Slaughter and Traitor Legions for a Marine force? Obviously youd still need Daemons and WoM for CSM and Daemons.

I don't actually know. If they are, I will be miffed as I have spent money on Wrath of Magnus, and Traitors Hate this year.

 Togusa wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

 Togusa wrote:
As for the release, I'm rather dubious of this book. As a CSM player, while I fully admit Games Workshop has been performing much better over the past year and a half, I would like to point out that I have to carry around a library at the moment in order to play my army.

I need to carry:
CSM Dex
Traitors Hate
Black Legion/ Crimson Slaughter
Wrath of Magnus
Chaos Deamons
And Codex Traitor Legions.

I mean half of the rules in the Wrath of Magnus book aren't even listed in that book!

I tend to think that Games Workshop is getting a little carried away with books these days. I mean think about it, how many codexes do you need to drag around as an imperial player now?

Aren't all the rules for the Black Legion, Traitor's Hate and the 1ksons part of WoM rolled into Traitor Legions? Meaning you'd only need the CSM Dex, Crimson Slaughter and Traitor Legions for a Marine force? Obviously youd still need Daemons and WoM for CSM and Daemons.

I don't actually know. If they are, I will be miffed as I have spent money on Wrath of Magnus, and Traitors Hate this year.

Bad news then my friend.

 VeteranNoob wrote:
I'm certain we'll get those plastic SoB in 2017

Did you really meant 2017 or was that a typo for a much more realistic 2107?

 commander dante wrote:
I feel GW is doing Plastic SoB, and going to do a big release like Wrath of Magnus

The Imperial Agents Supplement Probably has the Pictures of Old SoB models to make OG SoB players to be "At Home" and give them a rules update that they have been waiting for for a LONG time

And GW probably thought "Eh, We might as well update Grey Knights and Inquisition while we're at it"

I don't think they will be updating any of the chamber militants as that would cause too many problems since they aren't fully in the book.
From the rumours you get:
Deathwatch Killteam and Blackstar
GK Terminators and Dreadknight
Battle Sisters and Canoness

That's it, why would they update those? From what I gather there will be no updates for these as they seem to be small formations only and not actual codex entries.
The rest of the codex on the other hand will probably not be formations only but actual codex entries with all the stats and rules. The chamber militant stuff will most likely be "You can use x and y model in this formation, see their parent codex for their actual rules", this is apparently how they do it in Traitor Legions as all the points costs etc are from/same as the CSM codex.

Updated units (my prediction):
Inquisitors and their henchmen
Officio Assassinorum

Not Updated:
Deathwatch
Grey Knights
Adepta Sororitas
Aeronautica Imperialis
Legion of the Damned
Cult Mechanicus
Adeptus Astra Telepathica

Warhammer Live will have their first show on Wednesday, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if they did another bin video. I will be tuning in for the first free week to see what it's like, if they reveal a rumour each week it just might be worth subscribing... if they also include a free WD with that £5 as it's the most expensive subscription service for Warhammer and I'm not interested in anything AoS.

Just gonna give a reminder that this will be a CODEX
NOT a SUPPLEMEMT

 VeteranNoob wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
No new models sounds disappointing... But I hope that it only means a full scale SoB release nest year.

Resin Canoness sounds weird... I think earlier rumour said plastic. I hope the talk about limited edition is bogus at least. I'd have to hoard bunch of them if that was the case.

I really hope Inquisition rules get updated, they sorely need it. But as long as this book finally lets me give my inquisitors invulnerable saves (other than the termie armour) I'm getting it!

that's the spirit. No new models this week. I'm certain we'll get those plastic SoB in 2017 but curious to see how big a release. When WoM letter came it seemed like a book and the Rubrics. Was totally surprised to see termies, exalted sorcerers, tzaangors and Ahriman!

I put much stock in what you say.

 commander dante wrote:
Just gonna give a reminder that this will be a CODEX
NOT a SUPPLEMEMT

It does not contain the whole SoB, Deathwatch or GK codexes, only 2-3 units from all. There is no way they'd update those, the other stuff I could see get updates but doubt it as it'd mean different rules for the same units in different codexes. This is why the codex as a product is severely flawed, if they went over to a Co-Deck you could simply release updated rules for anything and simply replace the old cards with the new. I just don't understand why GW thinks this is a bad idea... other than that 8E is on it's way and it changes everything so my product isn't necessary.

Lack of SoS and Custodes is interesting. I guess this means that either GW are going to leave them as mainly 30k forces for FW to expand, or they have bigger plans for them then a couple of squad entry's. Given there plastic kits, the teaser at the end of WoM and a prominent role in recent and future BL releases. I'm leaning towards bigger plans.