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 Formerly Wu wrote:

Imperial Agents should really have the "advisors" from the Guard Codex but doubt it.

Eh. With the exception of the astropath, they're both dedicated military support officers. Unlikely to be working independently.

I'm shocked the Militarum Tempestus didn't make the list. They seem like a natural inclusion.

A Navy Liasion officer would be equally useful to any other arm of the Imperium, same as the Master of the Ordnance.

This is a bad time for me.
I started 40k with CSM as my main army (2nd edition).
Then I wanted an equally insane opponent to that army so Inquisition with it's various units was the logical choice (~3rd edition, oh it was happy times then...Witch and Daemon).
So NOW they choose to release BOTH together.
My wallet is going to brace for impact.
There may be no survivors.
If sisters get some plastic models, the great immolation of my bank account will be a funeral pyre indeed.

What is this new feeling with GW?
It seems to be doing the right things.
That I want.
At an unheard of speed.
These are end times indeed.

OK, all I can say is what was relayed to me and what we are allowed to say with the reviews. Though they may be called rumors or leaks, that's fine and I do echo not spending money on something until you're absolutely sure it exists or rather, when it will be available to buy and is it what you want. I'm just suggesting it may be best if you are a fan of what's in this book (or any other, for that matter) not to close the door on future possibilities. Of course GW won't tell us reviewers what is coming if they can't but the prospect of amazing model releases in 2017 is exciting--the "blow your mind." Might as well not get upset if you don't see what you hoped for with only a few weeks left in this cycle (December). Warhammer Community is releasing more and more and they know what they're doing. Maybe you'll be pleasantly surprised. Different times, indeed.

But things like plastic SoB will be exciting when released but until then it's totally fair to wait and believe it when you see it.

 Melissia wrote:

Vorian wrote:
If you won't believe one of the two most accurate rumour providers about their rumors,

 Melissia wrote:
I personnally, don't view ANY rumor posters offering vagaries and no real evidence to be 100% reliable. No one is an Oracle.

Vorian wrote:
then what is the point in reading a thread about rumors??

 Melissia wrote:
I check occasionally just in case someone actually has something substamtial. Because, tho I have no expectation of it happening, it'd still be nice if it happened

Vorian wrote:
Other than to be antagonistic, of course.

Right, everyone who disagrees with you MUST be trolling.

I didn't state an opinion one way or the other. It is a genuine question.

If you are going to refuse to believe any thing anyone says what are you bothering to read and/or post here??

Sorry for the OT, I'll go and seek out some Astrology forums to tell them I don't believe in Astrology instead (not to troll ofc).

Loopstah wrote:
Retconned Legion over at B&C is saying 10th for a limited release resin canonness based on Blanch art. £15

Resin is also Finecast. GW still making plenty of that stuff.

Vorian wrote:
If you are going to refuse to believe any thing anyone says what are you bothering to read and/or post here??

Again, this is a News and Rumours forum. Besides, people have the right to not believe a rumour - by your logic, anybody who is holding any doubts about what has been suggested by rumourmongers shouldn't be bothering to voice their concerns.

It's also a discussion, ergo we should be discussing why we do/don't believe these rumours to be true.

I feel GW is doing Plastic SoB, and going to do a big release like Wrath of Magnus

The Imperial Agents Supplement Probably has the Pictures of Old SoB models to make OG SoB players to be "At Home" and give them a rules update that they have been waiting for for a LONG time

And GW probably thought "Eh, We might as well update Grey Knights and Inquisition while we're at it"

Given GW's lackluster past efforts, I feel it more likely that they're thinking "Let's grab some units that already exist and throw them in this one book in so we don't have to update them properly for a few more years".

Haven't seen any rumors of the units included being made stronger or more effective by any means, just that they'll be included and be usable in other armies without using Allies. Which, I suppose, does make them stronger and more effective in an off-hand way-- just not in their native army.


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Vorian wrote:
If you are going to refuse to believe any thing anyone says what are you bothering to read and/or post here??

 Melissia wrote:
I check occasionally just in case someone actually has something substamtial. Because, tho I have no expectation of it happening, it'd still be nice if it happened

If you have a problem with my posts, report them and move on.

 General Annoyance wrote:

Vorian wrote:
If you are going to refuse to believe any thing anyone says what are you bothering to read and/or post here??

Again, this is a News and Rumours forum. Besides, people have the right to not believe a rumour - by your logic, anybody who is holding any doubts about what has been suggested by rumourmongers shouldn't be bothering to voice their concerns.

It's also a discussion, ergo we should be discussing why we do/don't believe these rumours to be true.

Sure, ok.

In favour:

GW have said they are coming.
A rumour monger with effectively 100% accuracy has said they are coming.
VeteranNoob is piping up in his not getting sued way.

Against:
You don't believe in rumours


Not that I'm not loving reading days of snark about how rumours are just rumours (I get to wear my tinfoil hat, it's brilliant!) but it's confusing why you'd read it if you're going to reject absolutely anything you read.

Edit: There you go then, you've checked. It's the highest veracity possible of rumour. You've said you don't believe it, we've heard you. Shall we look forward to another couple of months along the same theme?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/12/05/no-one-suspects-the/

More hints

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/12/05/no-one-suspects-the/

Got ninja'ed by Ghaz

 Ghaz wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/12/05/no-one-suspects-the/

Assuming it's true, this pretty much confirms what I just said.

Vorian wrote:


Sure, ok.

In favour:

GW have said they are coming.

Where? We're not referencing that Magnus Teaser Video again are we?

A rumour monger with effectively 100% accuracy has said they are coming.
VeteranNoob is piping up in his not getting sued way.

So what if they're accurate? It's still a rumour, and a rumour can never be accurate until it's proven, at which point it becomes solid fact rather than speculation and/or unconfirmed sources.

Against:
You don't believe in rumours

Being sceptical is somehow negative?

Not that I'm not loving reading days of snark about how rumours are just rumours (I get to wear my tinfoil hat, it's brilliant!) but it's confusing why you'd read it if you're going to reject absolutely anything you read.

Rumours are just rumours - by the very definition of a rumour, it is a doubtful piece of information. It is much more confusing that people condone others who may take a more cynical approach to forthcoming potential releases simply because they are more reluctant to believe something until they've seen hard evidence for it.

 Ghaz wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/12/05/no-one-suspects-the/

Well, at least we now know GW don't intend to squat Sisters...

 Anpu-adom wrote:

Loopstah wrote:
Retconned Legion over at B&C is saying 10th for a limited release resin canonness based on Blanch art. £15

Resin is also Finecast. GW still making plenty of that stuff.

When's the last finecast release?

Cool, so it's basically codex:inquisition combining all three wings with some extra units sprinkled to taste, in a physical book. I can get behind that...although that means I have to spend shipping again sigh.

well, there we go, from warhammer community itself.
With the arrival of Daemon Primarchs into the galaxy and traitors spilling from the Eye, the Imperium desperately needs to work together to ensure its continued survival.

Next week, they get much needed aid, in the form of Codex: Imperial Agents.

This is a book that compiles together loads of specialist forces that commonly operate alongside other armies within the Imperium – including agents from the Inquisition, Officio Assassinorum, Deathwatch, Grey Knights, Adepta Sororitas, Cult Mechanicus, Adeptus Astra Telepathica, Aeronautica Imperialis, and even the Legion of the Damned.


Much of this content is only available digitally at the moment, some of it is new, and much of it is updated.

It’s worth saying that this will not replace existing printed codexes for the Deathwatch or Grey Knights – this just means that, if you want to add a small strike force of Elite Space Marines to your Imperial army (perhaps requisitioned by an Inquisitor, or high ranking officer), this book makes it easy for you to do so.

 pretre wrote:
When's the last finecast release?

Captain Centos, a limited edition North America exclusive release in may this year.


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Vorian, if you seriously want a response:

1: "GW" has said plastic Sisters in the past and, obviously, have been wrong.

2: People with "100% accuracy" have said plastic Sisters in the past and been wrong.

It's been more than something along the lines of five years since Jes Goodwin said Plastic Sisters are "almost finished" and "imminent", and that they just have some "minor adjustments" to make. And we have gotten... nothing.

But hey, we gotta board the hype train, NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO NOT BOARD THE HYPE TRAIN! Anyone not willing to board the hype train MUST BE LYNCHED until they come on board or cease to be!

Or, you know, you could just accept that people have different opinions than you and not spaz out and try to pressure in to silence everyone who doesn't agree with you about the potential future existence of small, possibly plastic spacenuns with spaceguns and spacetanks.

I am getting a hard cover codex for my birth day. It would be nice if all of my army is still in there in an unnerfed condition.
That is all I care about really. I could not care less about the possibility of plastic sisters, but those who do are invited to join the "we are finally getting stuff hype train" : D

Sounds interesting, I like the idea of using a Deathwatch squad as my henchman unit. And there was me thinking of selling the deathwatch guys from my Deathmasque box...not anymore....not anymore.

 pretre wrote:

 Anpu-adom wrote:

Loopstah wrote:
Retconned Legion over at B&C is saying 10th for a limited release resin canonness based on Blanch art. £15

Resin is also Finecast. GW still making plenty of that stuff.

When's the last finecast release?

Release? Long time ago, unless you are counting some of the special release miniatures for store openings, etc. However, you can still buy lots of things in Finecast... named characters and non-unique characters are available.

I must be easily pleased but I like the idea of my Inquisitor being part of my Sisters army (or vice versa) - Hopefully the Inquisitor will have a decent dedicated transport list

but this is crumbs in the straw at the bad end of the great hall compared to other factions..........sigh

I like it where Everyone has Forgotten about the Legion Preator and Banner dude
They were FW Resin, and sold by GW...

SeanDrake wrote:

 Ezr91aeL wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Ezr91aeL wrote:
Resin sisters are nonesense for one more reason: Citadel does not produce resin anymore, only Forgeworld does, but the new Imperial Armour has been postponed and in any case it will tells about Mechanicus vs Tau on a forge world, so I cannot see how Sororitas could be involved.

Well the same way that almost certainly there will be Marines (has to be marines right?) - they just write them in as part of the Crusade to defend or recover it.

Ecclesiarchy goes to save Adeptus Mechanicus? Improbable (but yes, not impossible). If they were attacked by some Chaos/cultist group I could tell that SoB were called by an Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor, but we are talking of Tau, the less chaotic race in the entire universe.

Kirasu wrote:Yeah, they were called Sisters of Silence

But they said Sister of Battle.

Actually I am 99% certain they just said "sisters" in plastic the week before the SoS were shown.

I would guess there have been trying to come up with a way of breaking the news to the dozen or so SoB players without causing them to off them selves.

Go back and watch the freaking video, it still exists, it didn't disappear into the goddam ether, you can go and watch them say plastic sisters OF BATTLE in the video RIGHT NOW. Whatever you think about Sisters getting new plastics or whether or not the video was just a joke, they said OF BATTLE. This line of argument has been popping up since the video got shown and is the absolute dumbest thing ever.

re the resin Canoness - maybe GW made a few as test models and is selling them off now?

 VeteranNoob wrote:
well, there we go, from warhammer community itself.
With the arrival of Daemon Primarchs into the galaxy and traitors spilling from the Eye, the Imperium desperately needs to work together to ensure its continued survival.

Next week, they get much needed aid, in the form of Codex: Imperial Agents.

This is a book that compiles together loads of specialist forces that commonly operate alongside other armies within the Imperium – including agents from the Inquisition, Officio Assassinorum, Deathwatch, Grey Knights, Adepta Sororitas, Cult Mechanicus, Adeptus Astra Telepathica, Aeronautica Imperialis, and even the Legion of the Damned.


Much of this content is only available digitally at the moment, some of it is new, and much of it is updated.

It’s worth saying that this will not replace existing printed codexes for the Deathwatch or Grey Knights – this just means that, if you want to add a small strike force of Elite Space Marines to your Imperial army (perhaps requisitioned by an Inquisitor, or high ranking officer), this book makes it easy for you to do so.

I have to say its a bit disconcerning at least for now that they specifically called out death watch and greyknights as separate armies whose codices are still valid but didn't include the sisters of battle codex as still valid. This doesn't mean that a separate larger sisters release isn't coming because I believe the GW web team rumoured video. Its just disconcerning.

Furthermore the pictures leave me hopeful because I still read or see acolytes, priests, deathcult assasins, crusaders, joekero, psykers, arco-flaggellents, etc. and the wording implies most of the retinue choices will still be available (demonhosts?) with new rules.

However a big red flag seems to be the omission of custodies and sisters of silence. It doesn't appear those dataslates and formation choices made it into this book which is sad because this is exactly where they should be. I realize sisters of silence are a telepathica choice, but it doesn't appear they are making it in if custodies (which are their own faction) don't make it. Hopefully some errata or faq makes these units as a possible inclusion to an inquisitorial retinue detachment.

 Melissia wrote:

 pretre wrote:
When's the last finecast release?

Captain Centos, a limited edition North America exclusive release in may this year.


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Vorian, if you seriously want a response:

1: "GW" has said plastic Sisters in the past and, obviously, have been wrong.

2: People with "100% accuracy" have said plastic Sisters in the past and been wrong.

It's been more than something along the lines of five years since Jes Goodwin said Plastic Sisters are "almost finished" and "imminent", and that they just have some "minor adjustments" to make. And we have gotten... nothing.

But hey, we gotta board the hype train, NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO NOT BOARD THE HYPE TRAIN! Anyone not willing to board the hype train MUST BE LYNCHED until they come on board or cease to be!

Or, you know, you could just accept that people have different opinions than you and not spaz out and try to pressure in to silence everyone who doesn't agree with you about the potential future existence of small, possibly plastic spacenuns with spaceguns and spacetanks.

You have the right to be doubtful of the rumours, but the nature of a rumour is conjecture. If you don't want to believe in anything that's not hard fact, I'd advise avoiding a rumour thread.

Eventually someone will be right and on that day I hope you can start to enjoy rumours again rather than being so dismissal, their right or wrong status is less relevant than generating useful discussion for some chaps on the interwebs.

Read the artical.... confirmed details

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/12/05/no-one-suspects-the/

gungo wrote:

 VeteranNoob wrote:
well, there we go, from warhammer community itself.
With the arrival of Daemon Primarchs into the galaxy and traitors spilling from the Eye, the Imperium desperately needs to work together to ensure its continued survival.

Next week, they get much needed aid, in the form of Codex: Imperial Agents.

This is a book that compiles together loads of specialist forces that commonly operate alongside other armies within the Imperium – including agents from the Inquisition, Officio Assassinorum, Deathwatch, Grey Knights, Adepta Sororitas, Cult Mechanicus, Adeptus Astra Telepathica, Aeronautica Imperialis, and even the Legion of the Damned.


Much of this content is only available digitally at the moment, some of it is new, and much of it is updated.

It’s worth saying that this will not replace existing printed codexes for the Deathwatch or Grey Knights – this just means that, if you want to add a small strike force of Elite Space Marines to your Imperial army (perhaps requisitioned by an Inquisitor, or high ranking officer), this book makes it easy for you to do so.

I have to say its a bit disconcerning at least for now that they specifically called out death watch and greyknights as separate armies whose codices are still valid but didn't include the sisters of battle codex as still valid. This doesn't mean that a separate larger sisters release isn't coming because I believe the GW web team rumoured video. Its just disconcerning.

Furthermore the pictures leave me hopeful because I still read or see acolytes, priests, deathcult assasins, crusaders, joekero, psykers, arco-flaggellents, etc. and the wording implies most of the retinue choices will still be available (demonhosts?) with new rules.

However a big red flag seems to be the omission of custodies and sisters of silence. It doesn't appear those dataslates and formation choices made it into this book which is sad because this is exactly where they should be. I realize sisters of silence are a telepathica choice, but it doesn't appear they are making it in if custodies (which are their own faction) don't make it. Hopefully some errata or faq makes these units as a possible inclusion to an inquisitorial retinue detachment.

but the sisters don't have a hardback codex yet

gungo wrote:

 VeteranNoob wrote:
well, there we go, from warhammer community itself.
With the arrival of Daemon Primarchs into the galaxy and traitors spilling from the Eye, the Imperium desperately needs to work together to ensure its continued survival.

Next week, they get much needed aid, in the form of Codex: Imperial Agents.

This is a book that compiles together loads of specialist forces that commonly operate alongside other armies within the Imperium – including agents from the Inquisition, Officio Assassinorum, Deathwatch, Grey Knights, Adepta Sororitas, Cult Mechanicus, Adeptus Astra Telepathica, Aeronautica Imperialis, and even the Legion of the Damned.


Much of this content is only available digitally at the moment, some of it is new, and much of it is updated.

It’s worth saying that this will not replace existing printed codexes for the Deathwatch or Grey Knights – this just means that, if you want to add a small strike force of Elite Space Marines to your Imperial army (perhaps requisitioned by an Inquisitor, or high ranking officer), this book makes it easy for you to do so.

I have to say its a bit disconcerning at least for now that they specifically called out death watch and greyknights as separate armies whose codices are still valid but didn't include the sisters of battle codex as still valid.

They said printed codexes. Inquistion SoB and LotD have 6ed digital codexes. They will now have printed dataslates. No need to be more concerned by facts.

I'll take a resin Sister, gotta show demand for it anyway, hopefully the sculpt will be better than that banner dude not long ago.