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What is so special about the model? It looks like any other starter set 5 -10 dollar on ebay regular space marine captain to me. I am no space marine player( except for some conversions in my Inquisition army) so I might no see it. Could anyone preferably a space marine player explain it to me ?

For me it's the fact it's a remake of an old Sgt model.
Really nice model aswell and I've missed this some how :(

That's an ugly base. I hated those green bases so much.

Nostalgia for long time players.

Same as the 30th anniversary rogue trader style marine with the combo-disintegrator; I actually found my original metal one though so I never bought the updated one. And the Games Day model based on the 2nd edition box art etc., all nostalgic models.

Let's see what his rules are before we see how desirable he is, lol.

It's nostalgia, it's a remake of a classic model from 2nd edition. If it was available in the uk I'd be all over it.

Hopefully it sees general release at some point down the line.

Other than that, I agree it's a pretty plain looking model, but then sometimes a plain model looks better than something incredibly blingy like the current range of Captains.

Meh. Bad weapon selection and I can make a better captain from my bits box.

Even as an old player, I don’t see the draw. He has some nostalgia value, but not nearly as much as the 30th anniversary mini. I’m not hearing a lot of hype over him anyway.

It’s not that I dislike him. He’s an OK looking guy. But with crappy wargear. If I had one, I’d paint him, and he’d spend his life on the shelf until it was time for a pity game to knock the dust off. Or a rules change to make him better.

I don’t buy direct from GW, and I’m not a collector. So I’ll probably never own him. And I’m fine with that.

Nostalgia. Rose-tinted glasses.

Just as the last 2 web-exclusive Captains they released he's a remake of a 2nd ed. mini. The fact they painted his base the good old Goblin Green with yellow drybrush sand adds to that too.

I don't really think too highly of the model myself. There's nothing that pops out like there was on the Web-exclusive captains in terms of detail. It all looks very generic and bland. If not for the cloak it could be another normal Sergeant and no one would be any wiser for it.

For me (although I can't get him, stuff came up sadly) it's nostalgia. I liked that model in 2nd edition. He's generic, yes, but he hearkens back to the old days. I had wanted to pick one up and paint him as an Imperial Fist as a homage to the old 2nd edition Imperial Fists Supremacy Force (Captain, Librarian, Chaplain, 10x Tactical Marines, 5x Terminators, 5x Bikes).

There was an open letter regarding this limited edition miniature in Bell of Lost Souls. It's whole point was to basically soothe possible angry collectors for not being angry at store managers if they run out of said miniature.

I dunno what it says about the community if there's actual news articles/open letters being written in order to avoid vitriol against storekeepers because some limited edition plastic toy ran out. Or then it's just BOLS publishing a useless article for no reason whatsoever.

To be fair, the problem isn't the stores running out of stock...

It's the gits who go in, buy 5 and less than 6 hours later are flogging them on ebay or Facebook Trading Groups at an inflated and ridiculous price.

That's most of what the vitriol is against. Really, common sense should limit these limited release purchases but sadly they don't.

So some git goes in, buys 5 $30 models and then flogs them for $60 or $70 a piece on ebay.

It's disrespectful toward the community. It's deliberately depriving other hobbyist's and gamers of the chance to get the miniature unless at an exorbitent price.

I want him because he isn't an over-embellished model. Anymore, GW seems to want to stuff as many little details onto one model as they can. He is basic and that is a good thing.

I think these are limited one per person

I don't get it. It is got to be one of the most boring, bland and generic models in recent times. I can understand nostalgia for nice looking miniatures (like that remake of the 1st space marine, that was a neat miniature (my flgs still has them in stock even), but this one is just really forgettable. Normally I am all over special limited miniatures, but this one I would have just put up for sale if I had got one. I have ordinary tactical marines in my collection that have more character to them than this captain.

 Crazyterran wrote:
Let's see what his rules are before we see how desirable he is, lol.

The rules are here
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/692249.page

At least a part of them (no point cost or way to field him yet )

The original was the first marine I ever bought. It's cool to see a version realized with the improvements in sculpting and production.

I think it's the appropriate level of nostalgia and distinctiveness for a reagional exclusive.

As far his weapons combination goes I used to field my captain this way all the time. The fact I don't anymore is mostly because I run mine in terminator armor.

I'm a but disappointed that he's an Ultramarine and there is something amusing that the guy who supposedly runs Ultramarine tactical squads through bolter practice has the worst possible shooting stance for a shouldered weapon.

Basically, because Oldhammer is a thing.

Much the same reason I spend time scouring ebay for older 2nd generation Eldar miniatures. A lot of us vastly prefer the simpler styling of older models.

I hadn't even seen this was a thing and when I clicked on it I thought someone had just painted up the old figure.

Had no idea this was happening. Nice to see this lad back. With this, and the re-working of the old Games Day captain, it'd be cool if they did all the other ones from the same era.

I am making rules for this model for the other C:SM chapters and probably DA, BA, and possibly SW. I wish they could have found a better special rule for him that would make him more universal. Still, if you stuff this guy in a Gladius Strike Force, you can pump out a doctrine very turn. That is pretty cool.

Looks cool and is one of the few new characters that isn't stupidly covered in bling.

That said, I have no idea how much he costs. I'd prefer possibly impulse buy him if he was 15-20 as a paint project

Well, he's unique (technically speaking since you could make one from existing parts IINM) so not very many people at all will have one. Also, he's cheaper than a retail Captain.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I am making rules for this model for the other C:SM chapters and probably DA, BA, and possibly SW. I wish they could have found a better special rule for him that would make him more universal. Still, if you stuff this guy in a Gladius Strike Force, you can pump out a doctrine very turn. That is pretty cool.

I think if some other chapter wanted to use him, I'd think the simplest thing would be that he allows any army to use the Ultramarine's tactical doctrine once. I don't think that approach would diminish Ultramarines who have so many ways to get more extra uses of their tactical doctrine they could conceivably use it all game long.

Elbows wrote:
Basically, because Oldhammer is a thing.

Much the same reason I spend time scouring ebay for older 2nd generation Eldar miniatures. A lot of us vastly prefer the simpler styling of older models.

I completely understand the old hammer thing. I am still seeking some models to recreate my old bretonnians.
But I just can't believe that a mini can sell out just on nostalgia of oldhammer players.

 oldzoggy wrote:

Elbows wrote:
Basically, because Oldhammer is a thing.

Much the same reason I spend time scouring ebay for older 2nd generation Eldar miniatures. A lot of us vastly prefer the simpler styling of older models.

I completely understand the old hammer thing. I am still seeking some models to recreate my old bretonnians.
But I just can't believe that a mini can sell out just on nostalgia of oldhammer players.

You have to consider it was only available at GW stores and each store only had 30 to 40 Centos models available. Even though there are now 100 GW stores in North America, each store services a metropolitan area with populations of several milli people... Even if there are only 400 people playing 40k in an area, it takes less than 10% of them buying a Centos to sell out.

I went to GW when they opened, they had 36 people lined up before the store even opened and sold out shortly after opening. It wasn't all old time players... Some people were drawn by the exclusivity and some were drawn by the hype of it being a celebration. I had an older man get in line behind me having never heard of 40k but decided if there was a line he wanted to know what it was about... He bought Centos and a Space Marine "Getting Started" set.

He's special because he's limited edition. That's it. He also has a special rule where you can use your doctrine again if he is in the army of codex: marines.

The only good thing I like about this guy is that if you really want the rules, he's much easier to kitbash out of existing marine parts than, say, the Imperial Marine.

But yeah I can see why he's overhyped. Unless you know his history he's just another model in your army.

 DarkStarSabre wrote:
To be fair, the problem isn't the stores running out of stock...

It's the gits who go in, buy 5 and less than 6 hours later are flogging them on ebay or Facebook Trading Groups at an inflated and ridiculous price.

That's most of what the vitriol is against. Really, common sense should limit these limited release purchases but sadly they don't.

So some git goes in, buys 5 $30 models and then flogs them for $60 or $70 a piece on ebay.

It's disrespectful toward the community. It's deliberately depriving other hobbyist's and gamers of the chance to get the miniature unless at an exorbitent price.

I got over $70 each on ebay for a centos and a pin, sold 2 of them. That's capitalism and as long as companies keep putting out limited edition stuff, I'm going to keep flipping it on ebay. BTW I didn't set the price, I started the bidding for exactly what I paid for the models and let the market set the price. If I can turn $40 into $140+ with a 5 minute trip down the street, I would be stupid not to.

 DarkStarSabre wrote:
To be fair, the problem isn't the stores running out of stock...

It's the gits who go in, buy 5 and less than 6 hours later are flogging them on ebay or Facebook Trading Groups at an inflated and ridiculous price.

That's most of what the vitriol is against. Really, common sense should limit these limited release purchases but sadly they don't.

So some git goes in, buys 5 $30 models and then flogs them for $60 or $70 a piece on ebay.

It's disrespectful toward the community. It's deliberately depriving other hobbyist's and gamers of the chance to get the miniature unless at an exorbitent price.

It was limit 1 per person if you only bought Centos, one for free at $100, a second one for free at $200 and a third at $300. So the max you could get was 3.