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It apparently happened in April, but I certainly don't recall hearing about it. It's a family that just keeps giving us all info-tainment.

Let's not let them get lost in the RNC shuffle.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/feds-oregon-standoff-leader-ryan-bundy-plotted-jail-escape-try/

PORTLAND, Ore. -- A federal prosecutor says Oregon standoff figure Ryan Bundy was working on a plan to escape from a Portland jail.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Geoff Barrow dropped the bombshell at a hearing Monday in which Bundy and his brother Ammon sought to be released as they await trial on charges stemming from the January takeover of a national wildlife refuge in Oregon.

In trying to show Ryan Bundy is a flight risk, Barrow said deputies searching Bundy's cell in April found torn sheets braided together in a 12- to 15-foot rope, as well as extra towels, pillow cases and food.

Bundy denied he was attempting an escape, telling U.S. District Court Judge Robert Jones it is "self-serving speculation" and "simply not true."

Barrow said Bundy's excuse to jailers was that he's a rancher and was practicing braiding. In court, Bundy told the judge he used the rope and towels for additional comfort.

Court records show Bundy hasn't been charged with any crime related to the episode.

The leading figures in January's takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge have been behind bars for nearly six months. They contend the 41-day occupation was a peaceful protest, and getting out of jail will help them prepare for their September trial on conspiracy and weapons charges.

To win release, the brothers must convince Jones they are not a danger to the community and will return to Oregon in September. Jones said he'll decide Tuesday whether to release them.

The brothers also face the possibility of being sent to a Nevada jail, where they are accused of taking part in a standoff with federal agents at the ranch of their father, Cliven Bundy.

Judge Jones noted that Ammon Bundy seems unlikely to flee the country. The Emmett, Idaho, resident has a wife, six children, owns a fleet-maintenance business and resides on a property that includes an orchard with 240 apple trees. But the judge worried about him returning for trial.

"He might want to hole up like his father did for two years," he said. "I'm still concerned about that."

Ammon Bundy took the stand late in the hearing, explaining that he and the other occupiers took action to protest the imprisonment of two Harney County ranchers and publicize their belief that the federal government has taken unconstitutional control of too much Western land.

He said prosecutors and the media mischaracterized the occupation as a "standoff," when in reality they were open to communication and never specifically ordered to leave.

He said at most the occupiers were trespassing, and the charges that carry a combined maximum of more than 10 years in prison are wrong: "We should not be tucked away in a dark cell as we try to answer these (constitutional) questions."

Assistant U.S. Attorney Ethan Knight confirmed that the FBI never ordered the occupiers to leave, largely because they wanted a peaceful resolution. He said the Bundy clearly knew he wasn't supposed to be on the property and Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward informed him that citizens wanted him to go.

"They can say what they want," Knight said of the Bundys. "The reality is they do what they want."

Knight "objected to the Bundys' release, arguing that no conditions could ensure they'd return to court, considering the 'defiant role they took in leading the occupation' and their well-established stance that the federal government has no authority over public land," reports The Oregonian newspaper.

As to the question of danger, Knight conceded that prosecutors have no evidence that Ammon Bundy carried a firearm at the refuge. He said one of the 50 or so firearms seized at the end of the occupation was registered to Bundy and it was legally obtained.

Ryan Bundy read a lengthy statement in which he described himself as a peaceful man who's devoted to his wife Angela and their eight children. He said the refuge was vacant when the group arrived Jan. 2 and that was intentional because they didn't want a confrontation.

"I did not use violence when the government was shooting at me during the ambush and arrest," he said, referencing the Jan. 26 traffic stop that concluded with the fatal shooting by police of Arizona rancher Robert "LaVoy" Finicum.

Earlier Monday, Jones allowed occupier Shawna Cox to serve as her attorney, a step previously taken by Ryan Bundy and another two defendants. He wasn't in favor the decision.

"It's like a doctor trying to take out his own appendix; it's stupid," he said. The judge also warned her not to question the authority of the court or take other "screwball positions."

Meanwhile, U.S. District Court Judge Anna J. Brown, the primary judge overseeing the case, denied a motion seeking a change of venue. Brown agreed with defendants that media coverage has been extensive, but said it has been factual in nature and not so overwhelming that a sufficient number of potential jurors could not be impartial.

Moreover, Brown said the news coverage with the greatest potential for prejudice occurred during the standoff that began Jan. 2 and lasted nearly six weeks. With the trial scheduled to start in September, the events are not as fresh in the minds of potential jurors.


Maybe he was just practicing his rope tying?

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Im amused every day I go to work knowing these geniuses are incarcerated just a few minutes walk away from the office

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 Vaktathi wrote:
Im amused every day I go to work knowing these geniuses are incarcerated just a few minutes walk away from the office


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 Spinner wrote:
What about the fifty-gallon drum of lube? Last I heard, that was still at large.


They could probably use that to squeeze out of jail.
   
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In fairness to the crown prince of the Dildonians, jail is really fething boring.

Turning your sheets into rope is one of the more constructive ways to pass time.

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 feeder wrote:
In fairness to the crown prince of the Dildonians, jail is really fething boring.

Turning your sheets into rope is one of the more constructive ways to pass time.


I'm actually willing to believe that he was practicing his rope tying. Maybe.

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 kronk wrote:
 feeder wrote:
In fairness to the crown prince of the Dildonians, jail is really fething boring.

Turning your sheets into rope is one of the more constructive ways to pass time.


I'm actually willing to believe that he was practicing his rope tying. Maybe.


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Maybe he was tying it so he could hang himself and we wouldn't have to deal with him and his nonsense anymore

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 d-usa wrote:
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What about the fifty-gallon drum of lube? Last I heard, that was still at large.


They could probably use that to squeeze out of jail.


I imagine that that squeezing something was part of the original idea of sending the drum.

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Why not just charge him with the destruction of jail property?

then whether the rope was made to practice tying or escaping over a wall becomes irrelevant

 
   
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HBO needs to do a reality show of their time in prison. Sort of a sequel to OZ.


 
   
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 Breotan wrote:
HBO needs to do a reality show of their time in prison. Sort of a sequel to OZ.



There already was a "Scared Straight" show where big ass inmates yelled at teenaged, middle class pot smokers and such. "Don't be like me. You wanna know what happens up in here!?" circa 1980 and a remake in the early 2000s.

Then there was the triumphant "Earnest Goes to Jail".

Perhaps this could be the Bundy Hillbillies of Cell Block 3?

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Not sure if we're using this thread as an update thread for the Further Adventures of the Branch Dildonians?

ORTLAND, Ore. (KOIN) — In bizarre court documents filed Tuesday, Ryan Bundy declared himself sovereign from state and federal government and wanted to be paid $1 million to accept “the role” of defendant or inmate.

Bundy, the brother of co-defendant Ammon Bundy in the case of the takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, is acting as his own attorney. The federal court filings were submitted by his court-appointed legal assistant.

Ryan Bundy said he does not accept the role as defendant or inmate without fair and just compensation of $1 million. He also said he is willing to play the “role” of “judge” or “bailiff” for $1 million.




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Dude's freaking gone off the reservation.


He wouldn't be in so much trouble if he had just done that sooner.

   
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 djones520 wrote:
Dude's freaking gone off the reservation.


He wouldn't be in so much trouble if he had just done that sooner.



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Im tempted to walk over to the Multnomah county jail at lunch and see if I can visit...just to confirm that such insanity exists in real life

I'm sitting at my desk probably only about a thousand feet away and I can feel the cognitive dissonance from here.

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 Vaktathi wrote:
Im tempted to walk over to the Multnomah county jail at lunch and see if I can visit...just to confirm that such insanity exists in real life

I'm sitting at my desk probably only about a thousand feet away and I can feel the cognitive dissonance from here.

Careful... the stupid burns man...

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 Vaktathi wrote:
Im tempted to walk over to the Multnomah county jail at lunch and see if I can visit...just to confirm that such insanity exists in real life

I'm sitting at my desk probably only about a thousand feet away and I can feel the cognitive dissonance from here.

Careful... the stupid burns man...
I thought it was just the Buffalo Wild Wings squace from lunch...but now that you mention it...


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Jail is a lot like Buffalo Wild Wings in that when you're there you really need to wash your hands before you go to the restroom.

   
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Jail is a lot like Buffalo Wild Wings in that when you're there you really need to wash your hands before you go to the restroom.


i thought jail was a lot like buffalo Wild Wings in that when you're there you need to join a gang based on your race or you're gonna have a really bad time.

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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
 djones520 wrote:
Dude's freaking gone off the reservation.


He wouldn't be in so much trouble if he had just done that sooner.


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How does Bundy think he can make an enforceable contract if there is no authority that will enforce it?

Is he just a stupid deluded gakker?

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It's a sovereign citizen thing.
   
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How does Bundy think he can make an enforceable contract if there is no authority that will enforce it?


Sovereign Citizens are the kings of paper terrorism (technically Posse Comitatus pioneered it back in the 80s, but the SC took the ball and ran straight to crazy town). It's not about making sense. It's about wasting people's time and money with mountains of nonsense legal documentation. SC simply forgot that the whole point was to commit fraud and started believing the insanity they put on the page.

   
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Alright, time for an update to my favorite topic - the one everyone in the OT, regardless of political inclination, can agree upon: the Branch Dildonians.

  • Jury selection has started. Opening statements start September 13th.

  • 3 of them are defending themselves, which is always good for a chuckle.

  • The Bundy Boys motion for the jury to let them see them dressed up as cowboys was denied.

  • The charges against Pete Santilli, who claimed to be there as a journalist, have been dropped in Oregon. The more serious charges against him Nevada still loom.

  • Prosecutors might lose a big chunk of evidence they mishandled. Oops.
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