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In another thread the subject of how good is the In n Out burger chain, Yes they're this good:

http://katv.com/news/offbeat/police-driver-stops-at-in-n-out-drive-thru-during-pursuit

A bizarre chase in Arizona sent a man to jail. Luckily for him, he didn't go hungry.

Police in Phoenix said they were chasing a man for Wednesday night when the suspect took the time to stop at a fast food restaurant.

According to the Associated Press, Josh Adkins, age 35, had an outstanding warrant. Both a helicopter and several patrol cars were tracking the suspect when they saw he pulled over into the drive-through of an In-N-Out restaurant to order food.

After getting his order, Adkins drove away, stopped at a residential area and ran from the truck.

Adkins was arrested for suspicion of unlawful flight from law enforcement.

Want to anger a Californian?

Mention that 5 guys is better.

Because I have never felt hostility quite like the first time I had In-N-Out, only to say "Meh, 5 guys is better."


Guess he knew the jig was up and may as well get one last freedom burger.?

 MrMoustaffa wrote:



Guess he knew the jig was up and may as well get one last freedom burger.?

With a side of freedom fries? Maybe some take home freedom toast for a last breakfast and some freedom vanilla for desert

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
Want to anger a Californian?

Mention that 5 guys is better.

Because I have never felt hostility quite like the first time I had In-N-Out, only to say "Meh, 5 guys is better."


Guess he knew the jig was up and may as well get one last freedom burger.?

5 Guys is waaaaaay better.

But, they're more expensive.

As a Californian who has eaten at In-n-Out maybe a dozen times, I don't get it. What's the big deal? Fast food burgers taste like fast food.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
As a Californian who has eaten at In-n-Out maybe a dozen times, I don't get it. What's the big deal? Fast food burgers taste like fast food.

When I was out west, I was working with a lot of college kids and others fresh out of highschool.

When I wasn't impressed about In N Out the reaction I got was worse than if I had implied that I had had a particularly eventful night of love making with their parents.

Then again that group was pretty weird in general, maybe it was just them

Its a quality-for-price thing. There are plenty of burgers better than In-n-Out, plenty of burgers cheaper than In-n-Out, but its very hard to find something that's more bang for your buck. Some of the really good items aren't actually on the menu either (order a burger/fries 'animal style' and you'll know what I mean). That they have always started fresh-hires, even random high school students, above minimum wage (which is $10.50 here right now) also earns points with me.

As for five guys, personally I find their burgers to be more or less on-par with In-n-Out but cost more. But what really tells the story is that Five Guys will never move into a lot near an In-n-Out.

In-N-Out also has animal style which many people I know get basically always which 5 guys doesn't have typically. I eat both In-N-Out and 5 guys, 5 guys almost always by delivery because In-N-Out does not allow delivery services.

5 Guys just tastes like what Burger King sells ...but more expensive.

 whembly wrote:

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
Want to anger a Californian?

Mention that 5 guys is better.

Because I have never felt hostility quite like the first time I had In-N-Out, only to say "Meh, 5 guys is better."


Guess he knew the jig was up and may as well get one last freedom burger.?

5 Guys is waaaaaay better.

But, they're more expensive.

Indeed. If I were going to jail In and Out would not be my last burger. They're greasy garbage.

 whembly wrote:

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
Want to anger a Californian?

Mention that 5 guys is better.

Because I have never felt hostility quite like the first time I had In-N-Out, only to say "Meh, 5 guys is better."


Guess he knew the jig was up and may as well get one last freedom burger.?

5 Guys is waaaaaay better.

But, they're more expensive.

I prefer Triple-O's.

In-n-out is great, people just have to realize what it is. It's a top of the "drive through" burger joints, not the most amazing burgers ever. When you start getting into places like 5Guys or The Habit or other places, theyre serving a different schtick. 5 guys is great...but they're more expensive and dont have a drive through.

For a classic southern california "drive through", its hard to beat in-n-out (however partial I may be to Carls Jr). For that, they're amazing, and if you look at the way they advertise themselves, thats what theyre going after. There are better burgers, and a lot of innout hype has been taken overboard, but as far as a cruising meal goes, theyre great.

 Vaktathi wrote:
In-n-out is great, people just have to realize what it is. It's a top of the "drive through" burger joints,
In California.

California is not known for good food, just bland food made from once screaming cats (Del Taco)*
Anywhere else and only expat Californians eat it. Its greasy gak that will clog your guts for days. Its literally about the worst burgers I ever had.
In fact in Austin they have two In and Outs outside of Austin that are used to bait zombies er Californians that escape the Austin Quarantine Zone. It provides a safe catch and release program where we can return them to the wild (6th Street).

For a classic southern california "drive through", its hard to beat in-n-out (however partial I may be to Carls Jr)

Unless you desire to eat actual food, in which case, its better to eat your own tongue.
I like Carl's better but its pretty greasy and has a little of "secret sauce"
Do they still have 25C burgers? I used to eat a dozen of them at a time.

. For that, they're amazing, and if you look at the way they advertise themselves, thats what theyre going after. There are better burgers, and a lot of innout hype has been taken overboard, but as far as a cruising meal goes, theyre great.

The Surgeon General warns not to mistake InandOut for actual food.


*California food should never be mistaken for the sweet ambrosia that is hole in the wall Mexican places where no one speaks English. Thats Mexican food.

What is animal style? I assume the answer is PG rated.

Double Meat
two 100% pure beef patties hand-leafed lettuce, tomato, spread, with or without onions, stacked high on a freshly baked bun
4 x 4
four 100% pure beef patties, hand-leafed lettuce, tomato, spread, four slices of American cheese, with or without onions, stacked high on a freshly baked bun
Protein Style
your favorite burger wrapped in hand-leafed lettuce instead of a bun
3 x 3
three 100% pure beef patties, hand-leafed lettuce, tomato, spread, three slices of American cheese, with or without onions, stacked high on a freshly baked bun
Grilled Cheese
two slices of melted American cheese, hand-leafed lettuce, tomato, spread with or without onions on a freshly baked bun
Animal Style
burger of your choice with hand-leafed lettuce, tomato, a mustard cooked beef patty; add pickle, extra spread with grilled onions.
Note they also will put thousand island salad dressing on the fries for animal style. It looks like vomit.
http://hackthemenu.com/in-n-out/secret-menu/animal-style-burger/
http://hackthemenu.com/in-n-out/secret-menu/animal-style-fries-3/

 Frazzled wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:
In-n-out is great, people just have to realize what it is. It's a top of the "drive through" burger joints,
In California.

California is not known for good food, just bland food made from once screaming cats (Del Taco)*

Del Taco isnt food, I wouldn't let my dog eat that

I dont even know if they exist anymore. I hadnt seen one for years by the time I left CA.

Anywhere else and only expat Californians eat it. Its greasy gak that will clog your guts for days. Its literally about the worst burgers I ever had.

My colon is strong, and I'm a sucker for greasy food

I like Carl's better but its pretty greasy and has a little of "secret sauce"
Do they still have 25C burgers? I used to eat a dozen of them at a time.

They dont have anything that cheap, but the 2 for $5 western bacons probably added 50lbs to my waistline.

 Frazzled wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:
In-n-out is great, people just have to realize what it is. It's a top of the "drive through" burger joints,
In California.

California is not known for good food, just bland food made from once screaming cats (Del Taco)*
Anywhere else and only expat Californians eat it. Its greasy gak that will clog your guts for days. Its literally about the worst burgers I ever had.
In fact in Austin they have two In and Outs outside of Austin that are used to bait zombies er Californians that escape the Austin Quarantine Zone. It provides a safe catch and release program where we can return them to the wild (6th Street).

No one eats at Del Taco, that stuff is so horrible they got kicked off the navy base. For real mexican food go to any hole in the wall mexican joint run by mom & pop. If you think california isn't known for great food, it's because you're making poor life choices like Del taco.

Like others have said, in n out is great for fast food, If you have the time though check out Hodad’s in san diego, and see if you can beat the burger eating challenge It was even featured on the food channel once, I forget the name of the show, but the one with the guy who actually tried to beat all the places with food challenges.

animal style is basically code for grilled onions

There's a lot of great restaurants in CA. They just aren't fast food.

That said, La Burrita in the Bay Area used to make the best burritos on Earth.

I like Carl's better but its pretty greasy and has a little of "secret sauce"
Do they still have 25C burgers? I used to eat a dozen of them at a time.

They dont have anything that cheap, but the 2 for $5 western bacons probably added 50lbs to my waistline.

They may be gone. They were a similar chain to In and Out except they sold cheapass burgers where white people feared to tread.
Literally a quarter a burger. Back when a quarter meant something sonny!

Seriously, In and Outs are ok, but they are a cultlike thing for Californians. Non-Californians (especially on bordering states) don't understand it and can be downright hostile as it represents an intrusion of the California lifestyle into their region. Carls doesn't get near the cult following (or hostility).

Often different regions will have a local favorite that others can't quite understand whats the big deal. I guess here is would be Whataburger-which seems to be like a loyalty oath for Aggies or something. Dairy Queen would be similar-but I dated crazy at one and will never get within rifle shot just to be safe.

In Austin we like this for burgers. The big difference is 1) pretty peppery burgers; 2) excellent real ice cream shakes.
https://mightyfineburgers.com/menu/

Anecdotal, but I hear all the time about non-Californians going to in n out as soon as they visit, or driving 30-45 mins to get to one. At any rate, no need to worry too much about expansion because they don't open a new location more than one days drive from one of their production plants.

sirlynchmob wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:
In-n-out is great, people just have to realize what it is. It's a top of the "drive through" burger joints,
In California.

California is not known for good food, just bland food made from once screaming cats (Del Taco)*
Anywhere else and only expat Californians eat it. Its greasy gak that will clog your guts for days. Its literally about the worst burgers I ever had.
In fact in Austin they have two In and Outs outside of Austin that are used to bait zombies er Californians that escape the Austin Quarantine Zone. It provides a safe catch and release program where we can return them to the wild (6th Street).

No one eats at Del Taco, that stuff is so horrible they got kicked off the navy base. For real mexican food go to any hole in the wall mexican joint run by mom & pop. If you think california isn't known for great food, it's because you're making poor life choices like Del taco.

You stopped reading my post halfway through. I agreed about hole in the wall Mexican restaurants. But these aren't known outside their local areas, and definitely not by the Hollywood gringos.

I will throw in roach coaches. When I worked intown making fan blades we'd eat tacos etc at the roach coaches that came up. Man that was some good food.

animal style is basically code for grilled onions

Good point.

 Vaktathi wrote:
In-n-out is great, people just have to realize what it is. It's a top of the "drive through" burger joints, not the most amazing burgers ever. When you start getting into places like 5Guys or The Habit or other places, theyre serving a different schtick. 5 guys is great...but they're more expensive and dont have a drive through.

For a classic southern california "drive through", its hard to beat in-n-out (however partial I may be to Carls Jr). For that, they're amazing, and if you look at the way they advertise themselves, thats what theyre going after. There are better burgers, and a lot of innout hype has been taken overboard, but as far as a cruising meal goes, theyre great.

I think you stated that perfectly.

 Frazzled wrote:

I like Carl's better but its pretty greasy and has a little of "secret sauce"
Do they still have 25C burgers? I used to eat a dozen of them at a time.

They dont have anything that cheap, but the 2 for $5 western bacons probably added 50lbs to my waistline.

They may be gone. They were a similar chain to In and Out except they sold cheapass burgers where white people feared to tread.
Literally a quarter a burger. Back when a quarter meant something sonny!

Seriously, In and Outs are ok, but they are a cultlike thing for Californians. Non-Californians (especially on bordering states) don't understand it and can be downright hostile as it represents an intrusion of the California lifestyle into their region. Carls doesn't get near the cult following (or hostility).

Often different regions will have a local favorite that others can't quite understand whats the big deal. I guess here is would be Whataburger-which seems to be like a loyalty oath for Aggies or something. Dairy Queen would be similar-but I dated crazy at one and will never get within rifle shot just to be safe.

In Austin we like this for burgers. The big difference is 1) pretty peppery burgers; 2) excellent real ice cream shakes.
https://mightyfineburgers.com/menu/

I had a Carl's Jr Big Western when I was out in CA and it was one of the best fast food burgers I've ever had, but when I've had stuff at Hardy's which is the same chain it was nowhere near the same. I don't know if it was a case of after plane flight hunger level influencing the experience or if there's some other difference but the one time i tried Carl's Jr it was awesome and every trip to Hardy's has been nothing but disappointment.