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2019/10/31 17:21:43
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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2019/10/31 17:27:54
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Araqiel
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If that table is two boxed sets worth of goods, count me out. I think I'll try to pick up an ender3 3d printer on black Friday instead.
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2019/10/31 17:28:40
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Cool looking terrain. I always wanted a Zone Mortalis terrain set.
Also, shoutout to the Mark Bedford's Hellboy shirt. Always unexpected to see Warhammer Community videos mention or show things like Star Wars, HB, or Optimus Prime. I'd figure GW would be afraid to bring up an other IPs.
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2019/10/31 17:41:34
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'm curious how many of those floors come in a single $60 box. Did they mention that?
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2019/10/31 19:07:38
Subject: Re:Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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via FB from someone else who watched
Set comes with a unique softcover rulebook which contains the Necromunda core rules and the rules for Enforcers and Corpse Grinders. It does not come with the hardcover, and supposedly the softcover includes the FAQ and errata which makes me think we'll see some new faq and errata soon.
It also comes with its own campaign which is a variation on the Dominion campaign (what we saw those cards for) which includes mechanics for scavenging and trying to find food. That's right, you have to not starve.
The box is massive, the terrain is modular and includes sockets for magnetizing. Its cross-compatible with sector mech terrain and the doors are removable even if you place something on-top of the doorway. It comes with a mat similar to ones that come in other box sets.
Everything will be available individually later terrain and minis wise, PLUS they will be releasing hard plastic mortalis tiles!
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2019/10/31 19:42:24
Subject: Re:Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Oh man that table looks great 
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2019/10/31 19:46:47
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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 jojo_monkey_boy wrote:If that table is two boxed sets worth of goods, count me out. I think I'll try to pick up an ender3 3d printer on black Friday instead.
Ya, $20 of spool goes a long way for floors. Another for bulkheads, another for Tatooine buildings, ...
And since I have an Ender-3 and don't really like the Khorne gang, I'm going to save myself a lot of money not buying this boxset.
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2019/10/31 20:46:05
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Battle Tested Karist Trooper
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 Sqorgar wrote:I'm curious how many of those floors come in a single $60 box. Did they mention that?
My guess would be 4 tiles (maaaaaaybe 6) per $60 (US) box.
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2019/10/31 21:01:25
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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 Fango wrote: Sqorgar wrote:I'm curious how many of those floors come in a single $60 box. Did they mention that?
My guess would be 4 tiles (maaaaaaybe 6) per $60 (US) box.
You wish. 60 bucks for 1 tile.
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2019/10/31 21:45:03
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Battle Tested Karist Trooper
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This is for 12" plastic tiles, correct? Sarcasm/pessimism doesn't translate well in type....do you have a source? or are you making a snarky comment on their premium pricing model?
I would think that a box would get you enough to make a minimum play area (lets say 4 tiles for 2'x2'?) If $60 doesn't get you 4, I would assume theyd make a box of 4 anyway and charge whatever they think 4 tiles is worth...but this is all speculation anyway...I'm eager to see what the actual packaging and price ends up being....I may end up printing my own tiles and deal with the mild print lines if its too ridiculous.
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2019/10/31 21:49:51
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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From Facenbuch: Ok, so first outlook on dark uprising before I forget.
They were working on it from 2 years.
The box is big about 3 kg and 6" thick as was said.
Dark Uprising is a Necromunda Campaign focused on Hive Arcos.
The box contains Uprising Rulebook - a paperback which has same rules as in hardback but in different form, also templates, dices, Campaign Territory Cards, Tokens.
The plastic zone mortalis in box is made of 16 plastic sprues. Terrain is modular, can be easy used for 2D, 3D 2D/3D tables. Suitable for magnetization.There is also playmat instead of floor tiles.
Enforcers - 1 sprue with 5 regular guys and 1 or 2 with 6 Subjugators. 5 guys have shields and pistol grenade launchers. 1 guy have SLHG Grenade assault pattern ram.
CGC - 15 guys. They are basically workers from corpse starch facilities under Corpse Guild, who dont want to eat starch, cause prefer raw fresh meat. Being a worker it means they have S3, T3.
Different CGC have different rules. Glass-cannon gang.
The initiates are the only one who can carry ranged weapons and they have infiltration.
There are Butchers, Skinners and Cutters - equivalent of Leaders and Champions with different abilities.
They use repurposed weapons used in their routine work for corpse processing in the facility. They wear the mask which gives +1 armour save and protect from eye damage after getting shot in the face, also requiring passing will power test to attack them.
Skinners have Berserker charge - additional dice to attack.
Cutter is a Champion - S4, T3.
They are clearly not Chaos related. They do not recognize their Lord of Skin and Senew as Khorne, but in fact still he is the one.
Plastic things can be bought later separately.
Uprising Campaign is included - similar to Dominion, capturing territories but things go wrong so you have to start scavening for resources and to find food. All gangs can take a part in the Campaign.
Miniatures from Enforcers and CGC can be used for expanding initial gang size.
There is a plan to support the necromunda for 3-4 years until wallets will cry as was said.
They didnt say they wont do Outlanders.
This expansion related to Hive Arcos was started 2 years ago and 1 year was production. The mentioned Hive Mortalis with plague and zombies, Hive Secundus with GSC, Ash Wastes. Probably another expansion is in progress already.
Also from Facebook: Q: Is the campaign book in the box the same as the one on its own?
A: the core rules are the same as the current hardcover Rulebook, and it sounds like it includes the Uprising campaign which is a completely new campaign, *instead of* the Dominion campaign. He didn't say much about The Book of Ruin because Andy will be on Twitch again next week to talk about that, but it's not the same as the book in the box; don't know if it will contain the full Uprising campaign, but it sounds like it will at least build on the Uprising campaign with even more new scenarios, and will have lists for Corpse Grinders, Chaos Helot Cults, GSC, and rules for making House gangs that are corrupted by Chaos and/or GSC!
Q: Do you need the corpse grinders to be part of the campaign?
A: There are Enforcers, Forces of ruin - CGC, GSC, Helots and neutral - other regular gangs which can also join the dark side. Dunno if Enforcers are must, I guess no.
Let's hope these pics work...
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2019/10/31 22:25:05
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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In Necromunda, there are never "same rules", stuff always changes. There is never a pure copy-paste, some butter fingers always do random mutations to the text. New round of madness, N19 here we go!
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2019/10/31 22:31:50
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'm liking this more and more.
16 sprues worth of terrain is hard to believe. I'd believe 8 of the big 'vehicle sized' sprues, though. So maybe it's like 16 infantry-sized sprues.
Very impressive. This is what's going to get me into Necromunda. I'll probably save a sprue's worth of the chaos gang for the inevitable forgeworld weapon upgrades.
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2019/10/31 22:42:29
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Well it would explain the high price in the leak that people have been complaining about
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2019/10/31 23:02:34
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Apparently the pictures we've seen represent the terrain in the box x2.
That's not a good sign...
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2019/10/31 23:21:12
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:Apparently the pictures we've seen represent the terrain in the box x2.
That's not a good sign...
That’s the table at the Yaktribe link, not the marketing shot on WHC.
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 Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
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2019/10/31 23:29:42
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Terrifying Doombull
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They are clearly not Chaos related. They do not recognize their Lord of Skin and Senew as Khorne, but in fact still he is the one.
Just... What?
They're clearly not chaos related. (But they look really chaos related).
They don't recognize their God as Khorne (but it looks like they're a Khornate cult), except he is, in fact, totally Khorne.
So they're a not chaos cult that doesn't worship Khorne by being a chaos cult that totally worships Khorne. I sincerely hope a terrible summary and atrocious translation ran into several typos, because that is complete nonsense.
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2019/10/31 23:37:06
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The cultists themselves are probably as confused as you.
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2019/10/31 23:45:35
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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 JohnnyHell wrote:That’s the table at the Yaktribe link, not the marketing shot on WHC.
It's a display board, I know, as it has elements that aren't part of the kit (like the meatgrinder made from the Chaos Stargate thing). And if that's 2x terrain, then that means the amount in the box is pretty paltry.
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2019/11/01 00:04:40
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Voss wrote:They are clearly not Chaos related. They do not recognize their Lord of Skin and Senew as Khorne, but in fact still he is the one.
Just... What?
They're clearly not chaos related. (But they look really chaos related).
They don't recognize their God as Khorne (but it looks like they're a Khornate cult), except he is, in fact, totally Khorne.
So they're a not chaos cult that doesn't worship Khorne by being a chaos cult that totally worships Khorne. I sincerely hope a terrible summary and atrocious translation ran into several typos, because that is complete nonsense.
I fear you're missing the intent here; the cult is absolutely worshipping Khorne, or at least a local version of him, they're just unaware of the terminology that we, the player, would normally use. They've never heard of "Khorne the Blood God of Chaos" but the Lord of Skin and Sinew or whatever is the local interpretation of him or an aspect. The Chaos Gods are known and worshipped under a myriad of different names and forms across the galaxy, this is Necromunda's. It's a more specific, narrow aspect and form of worship but it feeds into the gestalt whole of the entity we'd usually think of as Khorne.
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2019/11/01 00:07:02
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Voss wrote:They are clearly not Chaos related. They do not recognize their Lord of Skin and Senew as Khorne, but in fact still he is the one.
Just... What?
They're clearly not chaos related. (But they look really chaos related).
They don't recognize their God as Khorne (but it looks like they're a Khornate cult), except he is, in fact, totally Khorne.
So they're a not chaos cult that doesn't worship Khorne by being a chaos cult that totally worships Khorne. I sincerely hope a terrible summary and atrocious translation ran into several typos, because that is complete nonsense.
It's old WFRP Chaos, or the Warcry version now. The Corvus Cabal have their own idea of what Tzeentch is, which is very different from what the Disciples of Tzeentch or the 1000 Sons would recognise.
They don't recognise the Khorne you would, Lord of Brass with deamons and a skull collecting fetish. The name 'Khorne' is meaningless to them and the Lord of Bone and Sinew might just be the patriarch of a whole pantheon of flesh deities, who all may be aspects of Khorne.
The Lord of Blood and Sinew might even be a specific Prince or Bloodthirster, rather than the Blood God himself - and probably started off as a local God, maybe even a symbol of the Emperor himself ("the Imperium is built on flesh and blood, human flesh and human blood" as the old quote goes).
So they are a corrupted cult, possibly even an Emperor worshipping one - that has debased itself and now serves Khorne. But in a parochial way, because they have never met deamons and might not even be aware of the other Great Powers. No "Death to the False Emperor" because they don't realise they've fallen, it's those in power that have lost touch with the real truth and feign worship of some abstract icon rather than the real Emperor of Man.
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2019/11/01 00:35:49
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
USA
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Well, the box is seemingly more and more appealing, though I really do hope that is a single box of terrain in the starter and not two, because otherwise the terrain is absurdly expensive. It still seems hard to believe the set is 290, as if you are going to price a box that high, why include a paper mat instead of tiles? You might as well go for 350 and include all "premium products."
I would likely pick this up for 200 or less, but over it will be a very tough sell.
Also nice to hear the full rules are included in the base set with a campaign, GW really botched not having a campaign system in the first starter.
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2019/11/01 00:51:29
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Terrifying Doombull
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JimmyWolf87 wrote:Voss wrote:They are clearly not Chaos related. They do not recognize their Lord of Skin and Senew as Khorne, but in fact still he is the one.
Just... What?
They're clearly not chaos related. (But they look really chaos related).
They don't recognize their God as Khorne (but it looks like they're a Khornate cult), except he is, in fact, totally Khorne.
So they're a not chaos cult that doesn't worship Khorne by being a chaos cult that totally worships Khorne. I sincerely hope a terrible summary and atrocious translation ran into several typos, because that is complete nonsense.
I fear you're missing the intent here; the cult is absolutely worshipping Khorne, or at least a local version of him, they're just unaware of the terminology that we, the player, would normally use. They've never heard of "Khorne the Blood God of Chaos" but the Lord of Skin and Sinew or whatever is the local interpretation of him or an aspect. The Chaos Gods are known and worshipped under a myriad of different names and forms across the galaxy, this is Necromunda's. It's a more specific, narrow aspect and form of worship but it feeds into the gestalt whole of the entity we'd usually think of as Khorne.
If that's the intent, they can just say that. A cult that worships Khorne without knowing it is still a Khornate Chaos Cult. Kicking off with 'they are clearly not chaos related' is nonsense.
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2019/11/01 01:38:59
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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That is weird lore considering how overtly chaos they look. In particular the leaders mask, out of them all though I do like the one with the hood over the helmet the most.
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2019/11/01 01:46:52
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Voss wrote:JimmyWolf87 wrote:Voss wrote:They are clearly not Chaos related. They do not recognize their Lord of Skin and Senew as Khorne, but in fact still he is the one.
Just... What?
They're clearly not chaos related. (But they look really chaos related).
They don't recognize their God as Khorne (but it looks like they're a Khornate cult), except he is, in fact, totally Khorne.
So they're a not chaos cult that doesn't worship Khorne by being a chaos cult that totally worships Khorne. I sincerely hope a terrible summary and atrocious translation ran into several typos, because that is complete nonsense.
I fear you're missing the intent here; the cult is absolutely worshipping Khorne, or at least a local version of him, they're just unaware of the terminology that we, the player, would normally use. They've never heard of "Khorne the Blood God of Chaos" but the Lord of Skin and Sinew or whatever is the local interpretation of him or an aspect. The Chaos Gods are known and worshipped under a myriad of different names and forms across the galaxy, this is Necromunda's. It's a more specific, narrow aspect and form of worship but it feeds into the gestalt whole of the entity we'd usually think of as Khorne.
If that's the intent, they can just say that. A cult that worships Khorne without knowing it is still a Khornate Chaos Cult. Kicking off with 'they are clearly not chaos related' is nonsense.
Yeah, you're exactly right. There's not room in lore for subtlety and nuance. Everything needs to be spelled out and as simplistic as possible.
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2019/11/01 03:10:40
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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 Starfarer wrote:Voss wrote:JimmyWolf87 wrote:Voss wrote:They are clearly not Chaos related. They do not recognize their Lord of Skin and Senew as Khorne, but in fact still he is the one.
Just... What?
They're clearly not chaos related. (But they look really chaos related).
They don't recognize their God as Khorne (but it looks like they're a Khornate cult), except he is, in fact, totally Khorne.
So they're a not chaos cult that doesn't worship Khorne by being a chaos cult that totally worships Khorne. I sincerely hope a terrible summary and atrocious translation ran into several typos, because that is complete nonsense.
I fear you're missing the intent here; the cult is absolutely worshipping Khorne, or at least a local version of him, they're just unaware of the terminology that we, the player, would normally use. They've never heard of "Khorne the Blood God of Chaos" but the Lord of Skin and Sinew or whatever is the local interpretation of him or an aspect. The Chaos Gods are known and worshipped under a myriad of different names and forms across the galaxy, this is Necromunda's. It's a more specific, narrow aspect and form of worship but it feeds into the gestalt whole of the entity we'd usually think of as Khorne.
If that's the intent, they can just say that. A cult that worships Khorne without knowing it is still a Khornate Chaos Cult. Kicking off with 'they are clearly not chaos related' is nonsense.
Yeah, you're exactly right. There's not room in lore for subtlety and nuance. Everything needs to be spelled out and as simplistic as possible.
Except it _is_ spelled out. They literally say its actually Khorne. And they look like bog standard Khorne cultists with axes and everything (once again missing that there's a huge range of Khornate worship other than 'smash with axe'). But for no apparent reason, they preface talking about them by saying 'clearly not chaos related.' That isn't 'subtlety or nuance,' that's just outright false.
If they wanted subtle, they could have left it mysterious and opened ended, not claim it isn't, then own up that it totally is two sentences later.
They did it successfully with the Warcry cults, where it isn't 100% obvious that the various bands worship <specific chaos god>, but instead have a range of beliefs that are actually pseudo-cultural rather than slotting in as predetermined ties to the Big Four.
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2019/11/01 04:04:35
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Fango wrote:
This is for 12" plastic tiles, correct? Sarcasm/pessimism doesn't translate well in type....do you have a source? or are you making a snarky comment on their premium pricing model?
I would think that a box would get you enough to make a minimum play area (lets say 4 tiles for 2'x2'?) If $60 doesn't get you 4, I would assume theyd make a box of 4 anyway and charge whatever they think 4 tiles is worth...but this is all speculation anyway...I'm eager to see what the actual packaging and price ends up being....I may end up printing my own tiles and deal with the mild print lines if its too ridiculous.
100% snark. Hope I’m wrong tho. 
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2019/11/01 04:19:15
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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The people on the stream were being sarcastic.
"They're clearly not chaos related" was a joke.
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2019/11/01 04:33:58
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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I was thinking they were Tau loyalists.
Shows how much I know...
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2019/11/01 06:39:02
Subject: Necromunda Underhive - Dark Uprising
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Thanks for the sharing of the info, looking forward to the uparmoured enforcers and ZM tiles when they get their own release somewhere down the road. 
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