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Decrepit Dakkanaut




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Now Live https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cmon/hate?ref=nav_search&result=project&term=hate


















HATE Is Coming Exclusively To Kickstarter


From the minds that brought you Zombicide and Massive Darkness, comes an all new world of violence and survival unlike any you’ve seen before: HATE, inspired by Adrian Smith’s Chronicles of HATE graphic novel series. Guillotine Games and CMON’s new game comes exclusively to Kickstarter on January 16, 2018 at 3:00PM EST.

HATE Is Coming Exclusively To Kickstarter

HATE is our first Kickstarter exclusive project, so we’ve put together a FAQ to help our fans and retailers.

What is HATE?

Read our game overview here. Follow us on Facebook for more previews as we get closer to launch.

If HATE is Kickstarter exclusive, does that mean I can’t buy it anywhere else?

Yes and no. HATE will not be regularly available through traditional channels after the Kickstarter; however, it is available as normal to our CMON Play retail members (and thus their customers) through the Kickstarter retail pledge; and it will be available at conventions CMON attends while supplies last.

I’m a retailer, and want to carry HATE at my store. How can I do that?

In early 2017, CMON launched the CMON Play program in North America, allowing members and their customers to take part in our Kickstarters by offering them full access to the campaign, including all Kickstarter exclusives and add-ons. The HATE Kickstarter campaign will be no different.

If you want to carry HATE in your store but you’re not a CMON Play member, please read more about the program here or contact us at cmonplay@cmon.com for more information.

When the HATE Kickstarter launches January 16 at 3:00PM EST, we will begin accepting retail pledges through a special email address opened at that time and announced on www.cmon.com/play

Will HATE be available in multiple languages?

No. HATE will only be offered in English through the Kickstarter campaign. However, like CMON’s other campaigns, anyone in the world can support the campaign and receive the game.

Why is HATE Kickstarter exclusive?

Our ultimate goal with HATE is to offer a game that remains as true as possible to the source material: Adrian Smith’s Chronicles of HATE graphic novels. As you might guess from the name, the world of HATE is not a happy or peaceful one and includes a lot of mature content. We know not everyone will find this type of experience pleasant, so instead of stripping out the atmosphere, we are going direct to those who will want this type of gaming experience, including our retailers through CMON Play.

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Mutating Changebringer





New Hampshire, USA

So... What is this? A card game? A board game? A miniatures game?
I have enjoyed Adrian Smiths artwork in the past but rarely venture outside of GW these days.

If you can't be bothered to at least discribe what your trying to sell (other than some kind of game based on a graphic novel), you can't really expect others to be bothered to look it up.

I assume 18+ just means boobs?
Is this another KD:M kind of thing?

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Moustache-twirling Princeps




We'll find out soon enough eh.

Yeah, I've been really looking forward to this, but that excuse for making it exclusive is garbo.

I mean seriously, a lot of the stores that would be retailing this if it went on general sale would be selling the actual HATE graphic novels on the shelf next to them, the idea they had to choose between exclusivity or toning down the mature content is nonsense on toast.

I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.

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Decrepit Dakkanaut




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In HATE: The Board Game, you’ll need to rely on your Warriors during Clashes. They can earn bonuses based on their positions on the battlefield. Their strength and skill in battle can be developed over time, but their bloodlust is something innate that can’t be taught. They’ll need it if your Tribe is to win. Today, we get our first look at one of the Warriors from the Um'Gra Tribe.



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 Yodhrin wrote:
Yeah, I've been really looking forward to this, but that excuse for making it exclusive is garbo.

I mean seriously, a lot of the stores that would be retailing this if it went on general sale would be selling the actual HATE graphic novels on the shelf next to them, the idea they had to choose between exclusivity or toning down the mature content is nonsense on toast.


I suspect both you and CMON are partly right, some retail stores would have trouble displaying/selling this, but a lot would have no issues with them

I think it's probably a combinations of seeing how the market responds to a KS only (plus their pledge through your gamestore thing) and perhaps not expecting this to do so well at retail (I wonder how The Others faired, perhaps not as well as expected), and retail getting fed up with the flood of new big box games and not being willing to order big until they see sales which means CMON has dead stock sitting about that stays there if the game isn't well received.

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Well, I googled "Adrian Smith’s Chronicles of HATE" and I can't tell the results apart from Warhammer art.

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This is one of those deals where we buy a new army, we get a board game to go with it, right?

I'm not too surprised by the exclusiveness of it. I have a feeling SMOG might be headed down a similar path.

But with the graphic novels being an actual thing, it seems kinda silly to do it that way.

Regardless I'm interested if the price is right and there's lots of neat sculpts. There's all sorts of interesting looking people that show up in the graphic novels.

Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!


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"Yes and no. HATE will not be regularly available through traditional channels after the Kickstarter; however, it is available as normal to our CMON Play retail members (and thus their customers) through the Kickstarter retail pledge; and it will be available at conventions CMON attends while supplies last."
God frckn damn it.
I guess I`m out.
1) I don`t want to pay for a game and wait for a it for a year and a half to arrive.
2) This is pretty bad for Brick and Mortar sstores, isn`t it?
3)Why is HATE Kickstarter exclusive? Because that`s the safest buisness model with nearly zero risks and more gain from hype and inability for people and retailers to buy it later- we`re like hostages buy now, OR NEVER AGAIN, LAST CHANCE HAHA, that`s why
When will CMON move on to normal selling methods?
Sigh///
   
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All CMON games are kickstarter exclusive outside of USA anyway.
   
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We'll find out soon enough eh.

JSG wrote:
All CMON games are kickstarter exclusive outside of USA anyway.


That's not correct at all, but even if it were, even paying the exorbitant shipping & customs charges for a copy to be sent from a US retailer is far, far, far cheaper than the grotesque prices "kickstarter exclusive" products command on the secondary market(ie, ebay). If someone can't go in on the campaign they won't be able to find this for less than quadruple the KS price and likely a whole lot more. It's bad enough when they keep whole expansions for board games as "exclusives", doing it for the whole game is practically holding the damn thing hostage.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Well, I googled "Adrian Smith’s Chronicles of HATE" and I can't tell the results apart from Warhammer art.


That's exactly why I was interested, it's basically a Chaos Marauders warband in a box. To be honest though I might pass just because of how gakky CMoN are being.

I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.

"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
-----
"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal 
   
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Wow, at first glance I misread the title and thought this was about hating CMON's kickstarter.

I haven't read the graphic novel but judging by the sculpt posted this is some kind of post-apocalyptic Mad Max style thing?
   
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Svalarheima, MA

I don't know much about this (though I'm certainly interested!), but I do know I'm glad that Orlando has 'volunteered' to keep the thread active during the campaign!

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 ScarletRose wrote:
Wow, at first glance I misread the title and thought this was about hating CMON's kickstarter.



Well that’s the route things seem to be taking

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JSG wrote:
All CMON games are kickstarter exclusive outside of USA anyway.


Hm, no, they're not. Edge Entertainment does a lot of them over here.
   
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I don't think he was being 100% serious - and/or it was a 'price commentary thing based on taxes/fees/shipping.

You know, a kinda/sorta LULZ post.

Maybe?

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I'm calling it now. There's gonna be a lot of Hate in this thread.

   
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UK

 Alpharius wrote:
I don't know much about this (though I'm certainly interested!), but I do know I'm glad that Orlando has 'volunteered' to keep the thread active during the campaign!


I shall indeed make a vague attempt to keep this one rolling on (especially if I decide to back but i'm uncertain if it's my thing gameplay wise since they've not leaked much, or if I have any money to spend on it)


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I've dug into the dedicated facebook page




by Remy Tremblay & shared on the facebook page so maybe one of the minis


well this one clearly is

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Nice looking chaos minis

   
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Moustache-twirling Princeps




We'll find out soon enough eh.

 Alpharius wrote:
I don't think he was being 100% serious - and/or it was a 'price commentary thing based on taxes/fees/shipping.

You know, a kinda/sorta LULZ post.

Maybe?


It wasn't a very good lulz post then, I bought Blood Rage off UK Amazon like two months ago, you can buy CMoN boardgames in most places you can buy other boardgames over here. Hence why their choice to make this KS exclusive is so galling.

I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.

"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
-----
"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal 
   
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There are many, many awesome designs in HATE. They blur together a bit as a mass of spiky evil, but that's okay. The giants seem like ace models, too.

I hope this is more like Blood Rage in terms of investment (and great gameplay!) instead of a bazillion add-ons and heros. Affordable, everything will see play and easy to store without a shelf of its own.
   
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 Albertorius wrote:
JSG wrote:
All CMON games are kickstarter exclusive outside of USA anyway.


Hm, no, they're not. Edge Entertainment does a lot of them over here.


Fair enough. I stand corrected.
   
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Those poses seem quite static so far...
   
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One Piece Boardgame Plastics probably push things more in that direction then not, but they look good to me.

Especially the 'giants'.

They are giants, right?

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United States

I will be pledging. These look good. I'm sure the Buy in will be around $120. It is a New Year though so maybe $140.
   
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Do we know how they will look next to other CMON minis, such as Rising Sun, Blood Rage or ASOIAF? They don't look like they would fit stylistically with the minis designed by the French artist behind Zombicide and WoK, for example.

   
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Black Plague has an Adrian Smith guest artist box featuring characters from his graphic novel (or stylistically identical to them)

 
   
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UK

HATE: The Um'Gra Tribe

At the end of the old world, those who survived were scattered like dust all over the Earth. The weak were quickly picked off and turned into servants or sport for the mighty. Over time, small families formed, leading to groups of people settling together. As trust grew, so did the gatherings of people. Thus, Tribes were formed. These small communities were necessary to keep people safe. Members would fight and die with their Tribe mates, and while trust was necessary within the confines of the Village walls, outside strangers were treated with brutality. You’re one of us, or you’re dead.



The Um’Gra were one of the first groups to form a Tribe. They were brought together by a love of inflicting pain, and it wasn’t long before the reputation of the Um’Gra spread far and wide. They dominated any Tribe they came across and were rulers… for a time. No one Tribe can stay at the top forever, and though fearless, the Um’Gra are not immune to the toll of war.

Though they’ve been dethroned as the dominant Tribe in the world, the Um’Gra Tribe members come from a long line of warlords. They revel in spilling blood, embrace causing pain, and kill as naturally as taking a breath. They’ve tasted what it’s like to be on top, and will stop at nothing to regain their throne.

The Um’Gra Tribe is reckless. They fear nothing, and that’s both their greatest asset and their biggest weakness. This Tribe will tackle any challenge without concerning themselves with trivialities, like the likelihood of death. The Um’Gra are never happier than when they’re covered in blood, hacking away at whatever meat was foolish enough to face them on the field of battle.

In HATE, players will be able to lead the Um’Gra Tribe in a series of Clashes. Over the course of a complete game or Chronicle, the Tribe’s 11 members will develop their skills and become fiercer warriors, but they may also gain scars that handicap them in future battles. What happens on the battlefield and within the walls of the Village, echo throughout the entire game.

HATE is coming to Kickstarter on January 16 at 3 PM EST. Follow the HATE Facebook page for regular updates, including art, miniatures, and articles.

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I hope we get a tyrant riding his armoured yak. The twins would be nice as a tribe leader too. Also, the guy in the middle of the group shot seems to have some crescent moons on him. Maybe we'll get followers of the earth goddess as a faction.

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California the Southern

Earth Goddess followers have to be in. They're a big part of the story!

I too am hoping for some mounted guys. Plenty of burly dudes riding on giant lizard things in the backgrounds of some of those battles....

Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!


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UK



a good comparison of how well the original sculpts have translated (pretty well, but clearly not as nicely as if they'd been resin)

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Any news on how the game plays and who the designers are? TIA!

EDIT: Guillotine Games. Eh.

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