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I request a ADA approved elevator, or one like in the outlanders set

HAHA, as stated previously in this thread, the Health and Safety of Juves/n00bs in this underhive is not a concern lol




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92acclude wrote:Dude, that is awesome. Love the tower and the time you're putting in to get it looking right.

Thanks man! Yeah, no shortcuts are being taken here.

As always, I appreciate and welcome c&c.

I have an unhealthy amount of dangerous underhive elevators, hence my desire to see an epic scratchbuilt version

Theyre cool, you gonna bother putting fan blades under them?

Oh wow, dsteingass is gonna give "fan-service"

mate that is so wicked looking... definatly you need to get hold of more u-shaped rods in the future... these will look awsome when painted in hazard stripes! the floors have never looked better than with that new detail... proves you are not done with your own learning curve...because you get better on a constant pace...which seems almost unnatural^^

the fans look even more than sweet... boy somehow i now see your whole blog as a large and ongoing tutorial...a how to do course for us all, on how to create new and cool terrain...for us scratchbuilders this is really nice as i think in the future i will greatly benefit form all your ideas...

@ Unicorn - THAT is a LOT of elevators, of course you have yourself a giant space elf titan there, so you need em!

@Vik, well, remember, I can't get this stuff anymore in the US, so sadly this is probably all I'll ever have. I'm just glad I gave it a fitting use. That's the trick with all this plastic, make sure I optimize the use of the rare supply.

FANS..
Whoa, I sort of modeled my way into a corner here! The smaller vents were easy as you can see, a slice of PVC pipe, some brass mesh, and some rivets and viola, they are done. But the bigger fans...that's a different challenge.

To start, the circles are 24mm or 15/16". I don't think they even make a pipe in that size, and I certainly don't have any, so I have to figure out a way to fabricate them. And if I want them to LOOK RIGHT they need to match the 2mm height and 1/8" thickness of the smaller PVC pipe vents.

Once I've got the rim figured out, then I need to fabricate fan blades to fit inside, that shouldn't be to hard. The hard part is then fitting mesh over the fan and still having a similar lip. I am thinking this will require more layers, which means multiple slices of some 7/16" round material.

Ideas? Community? Please?

Not sure about the rim, best advice would be to look for a correct sized pipe! Or if you own a dremel you could cut out the circle in 2mm plasticard, then dremel out the inside to leave a rim.

Perhaps you could put the fan inside the floor, so you can sort of see through below? Then just put the mesh and rim over the top.

hmmm....maybe there is a possiblily to get hold of suitable rings? maybe from a homedepot or DIY shop? and then get the layered work starting? i once did an attempt of making fans from scratch... used of course cardboard^^ und a base to build in from a firecracker base...:









those two versions might work for you too if choosen with care for your situation...


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or maybe a paintjob would even make do...

dsteingass wrote:Thanks Rogue!

The artwork on the platform shows the pipes are terminated in the platform. So I used my handy dandy 1/16" pipe bender. Unfortunately, it always makes a flat bit, haven't figured out how to avoid that. This pipe fits perfectly in the blue tube that I used for the gauges.

I'm told that filling the tube with sand first will prevent them buckling.

Personally I have some springs that fit around pipes to distribute the force when bending, also preventing buckling.
Yes, I know, I'm a few pages late!

Evil mushroom games does excellent fans in several sizes, see 3/4ths of the way down on this page:

http://www.evilmushroomgames.com/new_page_29.htm

Those are great Orinoco, but not the right size for what I need unfortunately, however I will keep that site in mind, lotta good stuff there, thanks man!

@ Vik, Those are nice fans, thanks I will use your layout of the blades if you don't mind.

my pleasure^^ also if eeded ... zinge... emntioned that guy to you before... he has two sizes of fans...

Seriously impressive plasticard fu mate. I love how you are reinventing the original Necro terrain we all played with.

Keep it up.

Zinge does some nifty fans too:

Here is the idea if my only option is to cut the outside circles in layers of 1mm (0.40") plasticard.

No one makes pipes in 15/16" outside diameter.

dsteingass wrote:The artwork on the platform shows the pipes are terminated in the platform. So I used my handy dandy 1/16" pipe bender. Unfortunately, it always makes a flat bit, haven't figured out how to avoid that. This pipe fits perfectly in the blue tube that I used for the gagues.

Or, simply cut a 90 degree triangle out of the inside corner of the bend you are trying to produce and bend that into shape. Still won't be perfect, but will be better.

Another instance where you have completely inspired me. I'm going to make 6 of those for "entry points" for my Plague Zombie Outbreak scenario. I have been using markers so far because I didn't know what I wanted for the tabletop. Now I really do.

Man, leave you alone for a couple of days and I have 2 and a half pages of updates to read through. When was the last time you went to sleep? Or went outside? Ha. Wicked excellent work, this tower is above and beyond anything else you have done on this project, it is way beyond amazing. This thread should be immortalized in the Dakka archives.

I'm at the end of my Zombie project. Once it is finished I'll get back to work on terrain.

It's always nice to come back to this thread, such a nice updates.

Love the attention to details with the hatches, rivets and fans.

dstein...are you able to cut that pipes in that thin layers? what material do you need in mm`s i could look out for such things here...the sketch of your plan looks very good and sound... it all but boils down on how you are able to cut the rings...hmmmm... would there be a way around that? like bending some tubing into a ring? could that work? or would the pressure of the plasticrod then let the ring snap? oh mate... i owuln´t want to be in your shoes...

could you maybe get the right diameter in a home depot for plumper wares? plastic pipes on that diameter maybe are there to be bought...could maybe be a chance...

dsteingass wrote:
No one makes pipes in 15/16" outside diameter.

Seriously, dst? I don't think anyone would hold it against you if you went with the 1" outside dia. It would save you a lot of trouble, bro. I mean, think about it: that's only a 6.25% error! I can live with that, and I used to be a construction inspector!

More construction goodness from Dstein!

Heh, thanks guys! I don't have any 1" pipe either. I think I've found a way...

The cricut cuts simple shapes easily, but it only scores the 1mm styrene sheet sligtly, still, perfect machined scores..


It still needs knifework, snapping can .well.. snap it.

Interesting solution!

Thanks for the tips on plasticard. I had forgotten I'd asked the question....my excuse I was too busy looking at pretty buildings.

Does my use of the Cricut count as cutting corners?

dsteingass wrote:Does my use of the Cricut count as cutting corners?

LOL! I might have suggested smoothing/rounding those frames more with say, a smaller tube or pole wrapped in sand paper emery cloth to makes them round inside. But nice screen usage there!

Damned fine work, sir. Wouldn't mind having such a nice set-up myself.

A suggestion for rivets. Use Shrinky Dinks plastic and punch the plastic with a hole punch. Bake the punches and they should be the right size. (I saw this on a Steampunk miniatures blog, but I don't remember where, or I'd provide the link.)

Shrinky Dinks also gives one other options, like printing out various signs (ideally in color) and shrinking them so they're in scale. Burger King and Coca-Cola signs for a post-apocalypse game anyone? Custom icons for your 40k army etc.

I cannot remember the last time I saw someone so perfectly maintain the balance between genius and madness. I have drawn so much inspiration and information from this thread since finding it. The techniques you employ are solid and the solutions for problems you encounter are amazing.

I'm looking forward to getting back on track and offering up some terrain goodness again. You can bet you'll be seeing a lot of your ideas in there.

Man, I really appreciate all your comments!

I'm afraid it's more madness than genius. I've had some heavy things on my mind lately, allowing myself to become obsessed with this project has allowed me time to do a lot of heavy thinking, and forcing me to deal with some things. Your comments and praises, and wonderful ideas, and goading have all REALLY helped me along!

It would be the highest honor if I can teach someone some basic or obscure modeling technique, or have them steal an idea of mine outright! When you create something like art or music and share it with the world, that thing then becomes the property of everyone. That's just my philosophy though.




here are my fans! They don't have the depth to explore Vik's slanted, layered look, they are really too small for that, but they should pass inspection.