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https://youtu.be/5VONU2Ug5xU?t=3327

James Hewitt talks a bit about his work on Adeptus Titanicus during an interview about the new Necromunda.

Timestamped to relevant section.

 Zethnar wrote:
https://youtu.be/5VONU2Ug5xU?t=3327

James Hewitt talks a bit about his work on Adeptus Titanicus during an interview about the new Necromunda.

Timestamped to relevant section.

Thanks for finding that. I will listen to the whole interview when I have time, but the real nugget there is that he has done another stand alone boardgame for GW. It will be very interesting to see how that turns out.

The titbit about a Warlord standing roughly 8in (20cm) tall is a good nugget, too.

 Stevefamine wrote:
I am extremely prepared for 8mm Titan Combat

This is ridiculously awesome and maybe the best epic table I've seen. Looks like straight out of The Last of Us.

 Apologist wrote:
The titbit about a Warlord standing roughly 8in (20cm) tall is a good nugget, too.

That would peg the game as closer to 10mm scale than the 8mm scale previously rumoured.

He was just coming up with the number on the spot, I wouldn't treat it as gospel

No sure, it's all rumours right now.

Evil & Chaos wrote:

 Apologist wrote:
The titbit about a Warlord standing roughly 8in (20cm) tall is a good nugget, too.

That would peg the game as closer to 10mm scale than the 8mm scale previously rumoured.

To be honest, I don't think a firm commitment to making the game in exactly 1:160 scale ("Xmm" isn't a scale ) was ever a major priority.

Yeah, I'd only take it as a ballpark figure; but still interesting to hear.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:

Evil & Chaos wrote:

 Apologist wrote:
The titbit about a Warlord standing roughly 8in (20cm) tall is a good nugget, too.

That would peg the game as closer to 10mm scale than the 8mm scale previously rumoured.

To be honest, I don't think a firm commitment to making the game in exactly 1:160 scale ("Xmm" isn't a scale ) was ever a major priority.

So long as the range is consistent with each other, which I'm pretty sure it will be, I don't really care what it is or what they call it!

Happy to hear more news about this in 2017 - I was thinking we'd have to wait till next year for more info.

That looks an awful lot like a DZC board! Everything covered in plants and over-grown/post-apoc type look fits the background of DZC much more than 40k I think..

Can't wait to see the first pics of new titans! I hope they're not OTT expensive and can scale to an extent with the older epic stuff..

 Apologist wrote:
The titbit about a Warlord standing roughly 8in (20cm) tall is a good nugget, too.

Feels like a good size IMO, much better than the comically undersized ones from the original epic line. Plenty of room for detail on the kit and the finished model should look nice and imposing on the table. On the down side we are probably looking at a roughly IK price tag to go with the size. But as Titanicus is more of a skirmish game you wont need a lot of Warlords(how many you want is a totally different matter though ).

GoatboyBeta wrote:

 Apologist wrote:
The titbit about a Warlord standing roughly 8in (20cm) tall is a good nugget, too.

Feels like a good size IMO, much better than the comically undersized ones from the original epic line. Plenty of room for detail on the kit and the finished model should look nice and imposing on the table. On the down side we are probably looking at a roughly IK price tag to go with the size. But as Titanicus is more of a skirmish game you wont need a lot of Warlords(how many you want is a totally different matter though ).

Aye. Now we're talking about them being in plastic, that not only means they'll be cheaper right off the bat, it also means they'll be available with an online discount, which is also true of the starter box which will likely end up with a discount on the contents right off the bat anyway. That one change has moved me from "I might get a Warlord to paint, eventually" to trying to guesstimate the costs involved in collecting a full demi-Legio formation and an entire Knight Household for support.

Not making each individual purchase feel too ripoff'y means people end up spending far more overall - who knew?

I must say, I'm really getting back into Epic again now, and am holding off painting the Titans I have to wait and see how these bad boys turn out!

There have been so many different artists impressions over the years, varying descriptions in the background in terms of size and style, not to mention that the sculptors will no doubt want some reference to the original - it will be very interesting to see how they turn out.

 Pacific wrote:
I must say, I'm really getting back into Epic again now, and am holding off painting the Titans I have to wait and see how these bad boys turn out!

There have been so many different artists impressions over the years, varying descriptions in the background in terms of size and style, not to mention that the sculptors will no doubt want some reference to the original - it will be very interesting to see how they turn out.

They're scaled down versions of the present FW range. They've literally taken the CADs for the FW titans and edited them. Entirely happy with that TBH.

The only question will be whether the price is exorbitant or not. Obviously the detail will be awesome, but if I could literally buy the metal titans with all their great weapon arm options from Vanguard minis AND then ship them all the way to the US for less than buying a new plastic GW alternative at the local game store, I think I'll pass. I mean, while they are more of a lanky old style, the Warlord equivalent from Vanguard is 9-10cm tall, and the same price as the GW Contemptor Dreadnought.

But I expect that'll be the case, with Warhounds starting at the price of 40k dreadnoughts and spiralling up from there. As comparisons to 40k-scale models go, are we still working off Knight sized Warlords, or Dreadnought-sized? Because a 60-65 dollar Warlord is not bad, as a centerpiece, anyway.

It will be if you want 10 of them!

Thanks for the info Yodhrin - will take a look at the FW site to get some idea of what to expect!

If Warlords are going to be 8" tall...I'm not sure I'm going to be thrilled.

But then, I really do want all of Epic back eventually.

So...whatever it takes to make that happen!

 AegisGrimm wrote:
But I expect that'll be the case, with Warhounds starting at the price of 40k dreadnoughts and spiralling up from there. As comparisons to 40k-scale models go, are we still working off Knight sized Warlords, or Dreadnought-sized? Because a 60-65 dollar Warlord is not bad, as a centerpiece, anyway.

A 40K IK is just over 7in or 18cm with a back mounted weapon. So if that rough size of 8in includes the Warlords carapace weapons then yeah there about the same size. IMO a (really)rough size comparison would be IK for the Warlord, SM box Dread for the Warhound with the Reaver somewhere between and possibly Primaris marine sized Knights.

Id love to buy some Dreadnought sized Warhounds. I always loved their design but not their size. A little weapon swap and perfect count-as Dreadnoughts!

 Alpharius wrote:
If Warlords are going to be 8" tall...I'm not sure I'm going to be thrilled.

But then, I really do want all of Epic back eventually.

So...whatever it takes to make that happen!

Honestly I doubt they'll be allowed even if they didn't seem pretty ambivalent about the prospect of going beyond Titans when folk have discussed it with them. The main studio are *really* invested in the idea that you can play the whole 40K setting in 40K model scale now, they won't want to give folk an alternative to that. I expect we'll get a ton of variant Titans and Knights for a couple of years, then maybe some Chaosified versions, then maybe some Xenos Titans or equivalent, but after whatever part of that they get to is done I have the feeling they'll "retire"(ie, direct-only the kits and cease active development) the new AT in order to make room for another Specialist Game(alas, probably some horrible AoS-adulterated Mordheim-in-name-only thing).

 Alpharius wrote:
If Warlords are going to be 8" tall...I'm not sure I'm going to be thrilled.

But then, I really do want all of Epic back eventually.

So...whatever it takes to make that happen!

I'm just getting back into the game now and am shocked by how strong the community still is for the game. And that's without any official GW support for many, many years. I guess it shows how good the rulesets have been and how good the concept is in terms of playing in the 40k universe at that scale.

Even if what Yohdrin says comes to pass (which I think it probably will) all it will help to do is put a load more quality titans onto the market for a few years, help push down some ebay prices, help the bunch of miniature producers that have appeared to produce equivalent miniatures. And it might help players who pick up Adeptus Titanicus look for other things to do with their minis, and discover (or re-discover) playing at that scale and grow the community a bit.

We don't need everything in a GW-stamped and sealed box to enjoy and play at that scale - it's already all there! I'm not sure about the NA community but I'm sure if you have a look about (and in the link in my sig) it will be straightforward to find other players, it's so easy to get hold of miniatures and rules right at this point in time.

I have a feeling that constantly getting asked about proper Epic coming back will in the end lead them to realise there is plenty of money to be made there.

But like Yod says, there's years worth of releases at the titan level before they need to think about it. I'm certainly hoping they release Eldar stuff one day

 Pacific wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
If Warlords are going to be 8" tall...I'm not sure I'm going to be thrilled.

But then, I really do want all of Epic back eventually.

So...whatever it takes to make that happen!

I'm just getting back into the game now and am shocked by how strong the community still is for the game. And that's without any official GW support for many, many years. I guess it shows how good the rulesets have been and how good the concept is in terms of playing in the 40k universe at that scale.

Even if what Yohdrin says comes to pass (which I think it probably will) all it will help to do is put a load more quality titans onto the market for a few years, help push down some ebay prices, help the bunch of miniature producers that have appeared to produce equivalent miniatures. And it might help players who pick up Adeptus Titanicus look for other things to do with their minis, and discover (or re-discover) playing at that scale and grow the community a bit.

We don't need everything in a GW-stamped and sealed box to enjoy and play at that scale - it's already all there! I'm not sure about the NA community but I'm sure if you have a look about (and in the link in my sig) it will be straightforward to find other players, it's so easy to get hold of miniatures and rules right at this point in time.

Just to be clear, AT is not at the same scale as Epic. Epic was 6mm scale and the Titans in it were in general undersized for practicality purposes. A Warlord in Epic was a bit over 2" tall, so if the new AT has a Warlord weighing in at 8" it's going to be way oversized compared to Epic 40k.

I don't know whether AT will be good or bad for the existing Epic community seeing as the models aren't really going to be compatible.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Just to be clear, AT is not at the same scale as Epic. Epic was 6mm scale and the Titans in it were in general undersized for practicality purposes. A Warlord in Epic was a bit over 2" tall, so if the new AT has a Warlord weighing in at 8" it's going to be way oversized compared to Epic 40k.

I don't know whether AT will be good or bad for the existing Epic community seeing as the models aren't really going to be compatible.

Well rather than height what's the base size going to be? If it's reasonable enough no reason they can't really be used. Okay so 8mm true scale vs 6mm guys so some scale difference but it's no big deal. If they look good and don't cost arm and teeth why not?

Depending on price might get some for the odd DropZone game I play - already use my Eldar Titans as Shalatri Walkers

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Pacific wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
If Warlords are going to be 8" tall...I'm not sure I'm going to be thrilled.

But then, I really do want all of Epic back eventually.

So...whatever it takes to make that happen!

I'm just getting back into the game now and am shocked by how strong the community still is for the game. And that's without any official GW support for many, many years. I guess it shows how good the rulesets have been and how good the concept is in terms of playing in the 40k universe at that scale.

Even if what Yohdrin says comes to pass (which I think it probably will) all it will help to do is put a load more quality titans onto the market for a few years, help push down some ebay prices, help the bunch of miniature producers that have appeared to produce equivalent miniatures. And it might help players who pick up Adeptus Titanicus look for other things to do with their minis, and discover (or re-discover) playing at that scale and grow the community a bit.

We don't need everything in a GW-stamped and sealed box to enjoy and play at that scale - it's already all there! I'm not sure about the NA community but I'm sure if you have a look about (and in the link in my sig) it will be straightforward to find other players, it's so easy to get hold of miniatures and rules right at this point in time.

Just to be clear, AT is not at the same scale as Epic. Epic was 6mm scale and the Titans in it were in general undersized for practicality purposes. A Warlord in Epic was a bit over 2" tall, so if the new AT has a Warlord weighing in at 8" it's going to be way oversized compared to Epic 40k.

I don't know whether AT will be good or bad for the existing Epic community seeing as the models aren't really going to be compatible.

Not necessarily. There's been some suggestion that the "8mm scale" thing could have been specifically in reference to the Space Marine test infantry they did, and if the Marines are 8mm then normal humans would be about 6mm still. Also, you have to remember that the Epic titans weren't just small, they were out of scale - actual properly-scaled 6mm titans should have been much bigger than the ones that were released.

tneva82 wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Just to be clear, AT is not at the same scale as Epic. Epic was 6mm scale and the Titans in it were in general undersized for practicality purposes. A Warlord in Epic was a bit over 2" tall, so if the new AT has a Warlord weighing in at 8" it's going to be way oversized compared to Epic 40k.

I don't know whether AT will be good or bad for the existing Epic community seeing as the models aren't really going to be compatible.

Well rather than height what's the base size going to be? If it's reasonable enough no reason they can't really be used. Okay so 8mm true scale vs 6mm guys so some scale difference but it's no big deal. If they look good and don't cost arm and teeth why not?

I'd say the difference between an old Warlord (a bit over 2") and the new Warlord (8") is a pretty massive scale difference.

By my quick back of the hand calcs, an 8" Warlord would be about 1/160 scale, 6mm is typically more like 1/300 scale, so that's a pretty big difference.

/If they look good and don't cost arm and teeth why not?

Sure, do whatever you want, but from what I understand this new range is not intended to be a good fit for replacing old Epic models. If the scale is as different as it seems from the info we have, I'm not sure AT is going to have a huge benefit for the old Epic community nor much of a positive effect on ebay prices of the OOP Epic titans.

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 Yodhrin wrote:
Not necessarily. There's been some suggestion that the "8mm scale" thing could have been specifically in reference to the Space Marine test infantry they did, and if the Marines are 8mm then normal humans would be about 6mm still. Also, you have to remember that the Epic titans weren't just small, they were out of scale - actual properly-scaled 6mm titans should have been much bigger than the ones that were released.

An 8" Warlord would be more like 10 to 11mm scale, so still a lot bigger than old Epic.

I believe FW reps have said previously this wasn't going to be the same scale as old Epic.

Yes we knot it's not same scale but old scale was out of scale with infantrv as well requiring hefty size increase. And in terms of game effect not big difference