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I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
Looks good! I'm kinda sad to see this generation of X men go, the current crop of actors they have are pretty good. Lawrence, Fassbender and McAvoy have great chemistry. Hopefully it's a worthy sendoff and is closer to First Class and Days of Future Past than Apocalypse.
Looking forward to this one a lot. One last hurrah for the franchise, I guess, before it all goes back over to Marvel. Glad that Charles and Eric are still taking a central role, I kind of expected them to be somewhat sidelined after the end of Apocalypse.
It does seem the really great costumes from the end of Apoc have vanished though.
Lance845 wrote: I would not have called them "really great" costumes. More bulky and wierd.
Best xmen costumes so far have been in deadpool movies
#~Can't really recall the costumes in the other films and I will not watch a Deadpool film.
I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
Anyway, this one has all the warning signs of being quite bad.
We'll know for certain soon enough, but it doesn't look promising so far.
Nope I just hate the character. Likely see this on the big screen.
I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
Necros wrote: So this is the last Xmen movie? Are the actors just switching over to Disney's Avenegerverse, or will there be all new actors and everything?
No one knows for sure at the moment, though I think it's really unlikely that the MCU will recruit the current lineup to join their multiverse. We're probably looking at a full on reboot with all new talent once Disney absorbs Fox. So yeah, this is probably going to be the last X-Men movie for this particular group.
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Necros wrote: So this is the last Xmen movie? Are the actors just switching over to Disney's Avenegerverse, or will there be all new actors and everything?
I would assume a new cast, given that they likely want to weave the X-men into Phase 4, the current cast would kinda clash given how many world-ending threats they've had to stop that don't mesh very well with the current timeline of the MCU.
An easy way to bring it up is once they reverse the Thanos snap, an unexpected side-effect that it brings about is a sudden increase in mutants in the human population.
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I really struggle to follow the X men films, didn't the other Jean do the Dark Pheonix thing already?
I have to say, whilst some of the films have been enjoyable I'd rather just watch all the early 90s cartoon series over again than sit through most of them.
“Good people are quick to help others in need, without hesitation or requiring proof the need is genuine. The wicked will believe they are fighting for good, but when others are in need they’ll be reluctant to help, withholding compassion until they see proof of that need. And yet Evil is quick to condemn, vilify and attack. For Evil, proof isn’t needed to bring harm, only hatred and a belief in the cause.”
I'll probably see this either way, but in the age of cosmic MCU, I never expected this Dark Phoenix to be even more grounded and small scale than the last one. Seems like a misstep.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Heh. Scott's first line is "Jean!". True to form as ever, Cyclops.
Anyway... that looks dreary and awful. I look forward to Magneto's inevitable betrayal.
Sadly, as good as Fassbender has been, it’s true he just goes from good to evil in every movie. Which...gets old.
And @Morden; don’t remember, do you have something against Deadpool? If you like the old comics, the first one works. The second one is so damn good that it’s bad (doesn’t grasp the character, but is an incredible movie-his trailer w/Celine Dion says it all).
I would have liked the comic accurate costumes that Apocalypse ended with. Although that movie’s ending was awful because “Jean had to be all powerful”!! The only downside X-Men as a collective whole suffers from in EVERY media is that everything is all about Jean Grey. Always.
Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
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BobtheInquisitor wrote: I'll probably see this either way, but in the age of cosmic MCU, I never expected this Dark Phoenix to be even more grounded and small scale than the last one. Seems like a misstep.
The Phoenix retcon is one of the worst, IMO and really has nothing to do with the appeal of the original story. I like where they're going with this, even if I have little faith in the final product.
Then again, the X-Men franchise as a whole, as much as I love it, has to be one of the least tonally consistent properties out there. Trying to explain the details of any of their classic stories to a normal person is a quick trip to the loony bin.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Heh. Scott's first line is "Jean!". True to form as ever, Cyclops.
Anyway... that looks dreary and awful. I look forward to Magneto's inevitable betrayal.
Sadly, as good as Fassbender has been, it’s true he just goes from good to evil in every movie. Which...gets old.
And @Morden; don’t remember, do you have something against Deadpool? If you like the old comics, the first one works. The second one is so damn good that it’s bad (doesn’t grasp the character, but is an incredible movie-his trailer w/Celine Dion says it all).
I would have liked the comic accurate costumes that Apocalypse ended with. Although that movie’s ending was awful because “Jean had to be all powerful”!! The only downside X-Men as a collective whole suffers from in EVERY media is that everything is all about Jean Grey. Always.
I don't like the comic character of Deadpool and never did - I hear its true to the source material so i have zero interest in very watching it. So I don't.
Jean is the central goal of the male characters in Clairmont land IIRC
I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
A movie that seems to lean rather hard on Sophie's ability to act seems... unwise.
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The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
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Azreal13 wrote: A movie that seems to lean rather hard on Sophie's ability to act seems... unwise.
But she's at least as good as Daisy, Emilia or Emna at pulling off that slightly irked David Mitchell pastiche that they must be teaching at acting school
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"AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED."
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
The chic who plays Jean Grey is really unattractive. Ms Bloaty McFace. The previous older Jean Grey was smoking hot. I can't stand to even look at this younger one.
I really dislike these X-Men movies. They were cool for a bit, but they just suck now. All over the place too. And I am really over Jennifer Lawrence. Not that I was really ever into her playing Mystique anyway. The vast majority of the cast blows. I can't wait till they are all re-casted by Marvel.
Dear Marvel; please go a different route with X-Men getting folded into your cinematic universe; go Ultimate X-Men. Wolverine is borderline evil who would leave Cyclops for dead in order to bang Jean, Xavier has no qualms about mentally vegetating people if he feels it’s justified, and Magneto is a brutal SOB. Throw in a Cyclops willing to kill if necessary, Blob who is a cannibal, and a Nightcrawler who doesn’t know right from wrong and kidnaps people...Ok, that last one might be extreme. But gimme the rest!
Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
Manchu wrote:I'm a Catholic. We eat our God.
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timetowaste85 wrote: Dear Marvel; please go a different route with X-Men getting folded into your cinematic universe; go Ultimate X-Men. Wolverine is borderline evil who would leave Cyclops for dead in order to bang Jean, Xavier has no qualms about mentally vegetating people if he feels it’s justified, and Magneto is a brutal SOB. Throw in a Cyclops willing to kill if necessary, Blob who is a cannibal, and a Nightcrawler who doesn’t know right from wrong and kidnaps people...Ok, that last one might be extreme. But gimme the rest!
That would be an interesting contrast against the Avengers. Also give them a better basis for Deadpool's (occasional) existence in their universe.
Nope - I find both Sophie and Famke very attractive
I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
timetowaste85 wrote: Dear Marvel; please go a different route with X-Men getting folded into your cinematic universe; go Ultimate X-Men. Wolverine is borderline evil who would leave Cyclops for dead in order to bang Jean, Xavier has no qualms about mentally vegetating people if he feels it’s justified, and Magneto is a brutal SOB. Throw in a Cyclops willing to kill if necessary, Blob who is a cannibal, and a Nightcrawler who doesn’t know right from wrong and kidnaps people...Ok, that last one might be extreme. But gimme the rest!
Not only is that a horrible idea, but there's probably an as close to zero without actually being zero percent chance it would every happen for an MCU incarnation of the X-Men.
There's also probably a reason the Ultimate universe is essentially no more*, and it isn't just because the core base/nostalgia group of Marvel '616' people want nothing to do with it.
(Yes, technically in universe, it does actually still exist! Which is funny, because some day, a smaller 'new' core base/nostalgia crew might get to clamor for its return too!)
Or...let’s have the first MCU X-Men movie be an adaptation of Fatal Attractions, where Magneto removes Wolverine’s adamantium. The movie ends with Xavier mind-wiping Magneto, setting up for an MCU event with the creation/birth of Onslaught. Brings the X-Men in with a heavy story, followed by a major MCU event.
Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
Manchu wrote:I'm a Catholic. We eat our God.
Due to work, I can usually only ship any sales or trades out on Saturday morning. Please trade/purchase with this in mind.