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So mostly small arms, maybe Light AT?

three 8” 5+ -1AP Light AT shots on the mauler.

Is it just me or did the original printed box shown say that this set had 8* Thanatar but it actually has 4?

It did say 8, I think?


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Also as weapons go? That’s not too awful. Certainly I’d rather have Light AT than just Light.

 ingtaer wrote:


Is it just me or did the original printed box shown say that this set had 8* Thanatar but it actually has 4?

The box does contain 8 (same as the individual kit once released), it's due to the fact that the models are printed at actual size that only 4 are shown. Just like the Triaros showing 1 model.

It is 8 Thanatars. Can confirm.

Can someone check my maths here, it looks like the box gives the following detachments;
1 (or 2) HQ.
2 Core.
6 (or 7) Support.
3 Vanguard.
1 Bastion.
1 Transport.

The ors being if you take priests as hq or support.

 ingtaer wrote:
Can someone check my maths here, it looks like the box gives the following detachments;
1 (or 2) HQ.
2 Core.
6 (or 7) Support.
3 Vanguard.
1 Bastion.
1 Transport.

The ors being if you take priests as hq or support.

Here's my count based on the GMG review video. Most of these can be taken as a single unit for most efficient points use, or split into 2/4 detachments to help fill compulsory slots.

– 2x Archmagos Prime (on or off Abeyant) 2 HQ – 8x Thallax Cohort bases 1-4 Core – 10x Adsecularis Tech-Thrall bases 1-2 Core – 2x Myrmidon Secutor Host bases 1 Support – 4x Myrmidon Destructor Host bases 1-2 Support – 2x Tech-Priest Auxilia bases 2 Support – 4x Ursarax Cohort bases 1-2 Support – 4x Castellax Battle-Automata bases 1-4 Support – 2x Domitar Battle-Automata 1-2 Support – 2x Vorax Battle-Automata bases 1-2 Vanguard – 2x Vultarax Stratos-Automata 1-2 Vanguard – 2x Arlatax Battle-Automata 1-2 Support – 8x Thanatar Siege-Automata 1-4 Bastion

 xttz wrote:

Here's my count based on the GMG review video. Most of these can be taken as a single unit for most efficient points use, or split into 2/4 detachments to help fill compulsory slots.

You can change the Tech Priest Auxilia to 1-2 too as you can take up to 3 per support slot that act as individual detachments afterwards.

Also I didn't realize Thanatars are detachment size 2 which feels kind of weird when Arlatax, Domitars, Vorax and Vultarax are all detachment size 1. The only ones with size 2 are Ursarax, Castellax and Thallax which have multiple models per base

ingtaer wrote:Pretty sure all the Black Books after their release had colour plates of them. Would have to check but I know Inferno does for sure.

Ah interesting. Sadly I don't have any of the Black Books, only got into 30k with the new edition.

SirDonlad wrote:Mars - near-rust red with black and cream detailing
Lucius - scarlet red with white and black detailing
Agripinaa - very dark grey/black with cherry red and white detailing
Metallica - white with dark grey and cherry red detailing
Ryza - rust orange with black detailing

That's perfect, thanks!



Also, Chaos Bunker has a full set of reviews of the Mechanicum kits up now. Interesting mix, very positive on the infantry thralls/thallax though the robots sound a bit disappointing (LI dreadnought-style overengineering up to 11). Definitely thinking Castellax are going to look better 2 to a base.

https://www.chaosbunker.de/en/2024/10/19/review-legions-imperialis-mechanicum-infantry/

https://www.chaosbunker.de/en/2024/10/19/review-legions-imperialis-mechanicum-battle-automata/

https://www.chaosbunker.de/en/2024/10/19/review-legions-imperialis-mechanicum-thanatar-siege-automata/

https://www.chaosbunker.de/en/2024/10/19/review-legions-imperialis-mechanicum-triaros-squadron/

Those Thanatar look insane to build, not sure if they or Leviathans are worse.

Definitely agreed on 2 Castellax to a base, its too busy with 3 and not just because I want 2 extra bases worth out of the box...

Support Detachment rules!

https://assets.warhammer-community.com/legions_imperialis_expandedcyberneticaformations_eng_07-mdsmqowyoy-tu5prvasqe.pdf

Surprised that we still didn't get to see the Karacnos and Krios but these at least look interesting.

With these you can now basically mix Mechanicum Automata into every other army separately from the allies rules.
Wonder if we are going to get similar support formations to also mix SA and SM or both with the Titan/Knight lists but I guess at that point you could just throw out the allies restrictions anyway

I’m definitely in the market for boxes of Automata when they’re released.

A fairly surprising reveal of a bunch of Mechanicus formations for all different armies

They include some very interesting ones, like a Titan formation one that represents supporting troops where the Titan gets cortex controller and while they are nearby, they get Tactical Strength equal to its wounds which gives them some support for grabbing objectives.

There is also a Knight one which depending on which automatons you take, gives the Knights Outflank or Forward Deployment. Some cool stuff in there.

Oh my god this is pushing me hard to order a copy of ROTDM and the Mechanicum box set. I was going to call it quits at just a box of Solar Infantry, but I'm gonna have to give this serious thought.

HidaO-Win wrote:

They include some very interesting ones, like a Titan formation one that represents supporting troops where the Titan gets cortex controller and while they are nearby, they get Tactical Strength equal to its wounds which gives them some support for grabbing objectives.

Its really funny that in the formation that can take units that have tactical strength they have a special rule that gives titans extra tactical strength but in the titan only army lists that would need such a rule not a single formation gets any special rules

It truly is a loss for all humanity that they didn't have similar formations in the game from the beginning, starting with the launch box itself.

Odd that these weren’t included in the book itself.

For those who don’t have the book, I’ll do a quick summary of what’s where down in the main chat. Might help folk consider if they want to pick it up.

Thanks Doc that would be useful.

I really cannot get a grasp of the names with the Mechanicum stuff. Everything sounds like the name of an Australian tennis player.

Awesome.

That’s that done, with a flavour of what each offers.

 Matrindur wrote:

HidaO-Win wrote:

They include some very interesting ones, like a Titan formation one that represents supporting troops where the Titan gets cortex controller and while they are nearby, they get Tactical Strength equal to its wounds which gives them some support for grabbing objectives.

Its really funny that in the formation that can take units that have tactical strength they have a special rule that gives titans extra tactical strength but in the titan only army lists that would need such a rule not a single formation gets any special rules

It was a shame that the maniple formations in ROTDM didn’t have some little rule to give them something. The ‘all rounder’ Axiom Maniple could have been given some Tactical strength, for example.

Is there anny other "legal" color scheme not having red for mechanica?? I already have bloodangels and red in my solor auxillia.

 skeleton wrote:
Is there anny other "legal" color scheme not having red for mechanica?? I already have bloodangels and red in my solor auxillia.

I mean, the article from today gives you plenty of examples that are all like: If you don't want to do red, here's what you can do following the fluff.

Also, Mechanicum so far lack Legion rules. So you can do pretty much any colour scheme you please, with absolutely no drawbacks.


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Intinerant Cybernetic Cohort is probably my favourite, being comprised solely of rogue Automata.

And I think it could be capable of quite nasty tricks.

See, Automats typically have a choice of two orders, which can normally be overridden with a Tech-Priest nearby.

Here you’ve less flexibility, but with some careful planning, as your Order is replaced on Reveal Orders, you’ve some wiggle room to react to your opponent’s orders.

All very dependant on your deployment and disposition, but in a game where Orders determine not only what you can do, but when you can do it? Being able to swap out definitely has tactical application.

How might I use it? I’ll tell you when I’ve some games under my belt, and my rules knowledge starts to solidify

 skeleton wrote:
Is there anny other "legal" color scheme not having red for mechanica?? I already have bloodangels and red in my solor auxillia.

There's these from the Mech liber.



Wikia page for Castellax has a few poor quality crops from the black books.

Quick question on the Thanatars, the sprue comes with 4 Graviton Rams (and 4 basic right arms) plus 2 Plasma Mortars and 2 Heavy Las Cannons.

Looking at the rules it seems like you can either kit them out with the Plasma Mortar and regular arm or upgrade to have the Heavy Las and Graviton Ram, so you can only ever use two of the Graviton Rams and two of the standard arms, is that right? So the extra arms are currently not usable, other than potentially having slightly different posing?

Tavis75 wrote:
Quick question on the Thanatars, the sprue comes with 4 Graviton Rams (and 4 basic right arms) plus 2 Plasma Mortars and 2 Heavy Las Cannons.

Looking at the rules it seems like you can either kit them out with the Plasma Mortar and regular arm or upgrade to have the Heavy Las and Graviton Ram, so you can only ever use two of the Graviton Rams and two of the standard arms, is that right? So the extra arms are currently not usable, other than potentially having slightly different posing?

Correct the extra Graviton Rams and left arms are just to get different poses

Got some pre-orders next week.

Dark Mechanicum, Thanatar and….



Some tempting raised plazas.