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Wow. So much for me to think about.

First...confirmation that Audax and Ursus Claws are in.



The Audax color scheme is interesting. Basically everyone painting Audax (AT scale or 40K scale) has been going off a few words from Laurie Goulding on a message board that stated ADB said they're dark red with iron trim and burning embers patterns. So this...isn't quite how everyone interpreted it, although some of the same components are there. I think I can tweak my scheme to pick up some of that look. And hopefully we get a transfer sheet that will help. I like what they did, it's just going to force some changes.

I targeted Ordo Sinister as my loyalist force many months ago. So...wow! That Warlord-Sinister looks great. And I'm going to be very broke. I hope it's available as an upgrade kit...buuuuut I'm skeptical that it will be.

Imma gonna be broke...so broke. And broke.

Edit: It looks like the Sinister base color is more of a colorless black than the black-green as described in the fluff. The verdigris is there, however.

I imagine the Sinister will be both whole kit and upgrade kit.

FW having been (barring Knights) slaying it with AT kit wise.


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Nurglitch wrote:
Is the Warbringer going to be a plastic kit?

Yup.

I"ll just echo everyone's comments so far about that Psi-Titan - WOW!


I'll also roll those images over to this page too:

Chopstick wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/02/05/shadow-and-iron-crusades-of-vengeancegw-homepage-post-4fw-homepage-post-1/

Psi titan and Ursus Claw!





Psi Titan is FW :(((, I hope the claw is plastic.

Fantastic - all of it!

(Now here's hoping 'everyone' can take Ursus Claws too...)

 xttz wrote:
The shield generator on the top looks like a new resin part as well. Pretty sure the claw can be made like that from the sprue.

They’re talking about the Ursus Claw on the Warhound, not the Warlord Arioch.

 Alpharius wrote:
(Now here's hoping 'everyone' can take Ursus Claws too...)

I'm sure they'll want to sell them to as many people as possible.

But if they end up being exclusive to us Audax players...I would be okay with that.

Tridents!

Interesting to see the Eye of Horus amongst the glyphs on the Ordo Sinister Warlord.

Gods that gun almost looks like its off an eldar titan - Psy titan for the win!

 Overread wrote:
Gods that gun almost looks like its off an eldar titan - Psy titan for the win!

Might be able to do a decent conversion with Dark Eldar bits

Forge World's Facebook page says the Psi-Titan will be a full kit (i.e. resin upgrades with plastic Warlord).

Forge World Hi Adam, it's a complete kit - a hybrid of resin and plastic components.

Ursus Claws! Okay, I might just have to get the expansion now...

A new kit for friday? Well, I dare say that this has been the best month for Adeptus Titanicus so far.

 zedmeister wrote:
Really hope they come up with a solution to the Acastus problem soon. Damn thing is too good at the points. The model is gorgeous and I want to field a bunch of them without being a complete tosser!

Same here. Its unacceptable really because all it takes is a quick pdf.

What's the consensus 'quick fix' to the Acastus problem?

(And no, 'don't take them' doesn't count!)

 Nostromodamus wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Gods that gun almost looks like its off an eldar titan - Psy titan for the win!

Might be able to do a decent conversion with Dark Eldar bits

Well its a LOT of Dark Eldar bits if you want a titan since its only the gun arm.

That said I'm sure we'll see Xenos appear at some stage. We just have to wait out the Imperialist propaganda first

Too many cheap Warlord kits floating around out there, LOL.

So I guess the kit comes with the plasma/claw sprue. Hmm.
These are going to be some very expensive Warlords, considering you'll probably want to buy more weapons to fill out the options. The 30K version can take all the regular Warlord gear, and I don't see why this would be any different.

 Alpharius wrote:
What's the consensus 'quick fix' to the Acastus problem?

(And no, 'don't take them' doesn't count!)

Isn't the problem that they're too effective for the points?

 Alpharius wrote:
What's the consensus 'quick fix' to the Acastus problem?

(And no, 'don't take them' doesn't count!)

Not sure there's a consensus. Some folks -- including the GW events, IIRC -- just limit their number in games. A points fix is another approach. Another would be to change the weapon profiles -- range is a key factor in their awesomeness, but they could also be reduced in strength or lose certain keywords.

 Alpharius wrote:
What's the consensus 'quick fix' to the Acastus problem?

(And no, 'don't take them' doesn't count!)

Halving the ranges on all the guns would be a good start. Forcing them to be fielded in pairs or more would also be helpful. As would halving the number of attacks for the graviton cannon so it’s not such a no-brainer “this is blatantly better but costs the same” non-choice.

Tavis75 wrote:
The head is definitely the weakest part of it, so hopefully there will be some variants in the kit (that will show up in 40k scale as well!), though I think overall I prefer the Warbringer to the Warlord mostly because it looks more like it could actually function, a number of the mechanical elements of the Warlord don't make a lot of sense and it seems it was designed by someone who knew it should have pistons, but didn't fully understand them (there are a pair on the arm that simply go between two points on the same piece of the arm).

Those are simplified versions of the pistons on the FW Warlord at 40k scale. Those connect the upper arms to the torso. Clearly too fiddly to replicate (or build) on the AT scale Warlord. I don't miss them, and it allows the upper arms/weapons to rotate if the joint is magnetised.

 Alpharius wrote:
What's the consensus 'quick fix' to the Acastus problem?

(And no, 'don't take them' doesn't count!)

We've had best success with the following changes to their points...

Banner: 90 pts
Additional Marshal: 80 pts
Porphyrion: 40 pts
Asterius: 45 pts

...and maybe 1-2 Knights per banner. With 4 in a banner one is saving 30 points and getting a bonus to an already powerful ranged attack. 3 Acastus is still very powerful.

The only problem with limiting their use is that both sides need to field them in equal numbers, otherwise one player has a distinct advantage in points and is free to spend those points on other things.

I really like the Ordo Sinister Warlord. The blank faceplate is very cool and I like the colour scheme and glowing runes.

Well, it would definitely be a shame as far as custom legions and general army theming goes to limit the close combat weapon for warhounds to one legion...

changemod wrote:
Well, it would definitely be a shame as far as custom legions and general army theming goes to limit the close combat weapon for warhounds to one legion...

It’s not really a close combat weapon. It’s a harpoon.

 ImAGeek wrote:

changemod wrote:
Well, it would definitely be a shame as far as custom legions and general army theming goes to limit the close combat weapon for warhounds to one legion...

It’s not really a close combat weapon. It’s a harpoon.

Yeah, but it makes the world eaters happy and it never stops being connected to the Titan, it’s there in spirit regardless.

Fluffwise there are other close combat weapons too. Titaniucs mentions a trident.

Cyrixiinus wrote:
Fluffwise there are other close combat weapons too. Titaniucs mentions a trident.

It used to be the Harpoon was a misssile that you used to fire into a titan to overload the control systems and try to control it remotely. The trident was similar to the Ursus claws weapon - fire it into a Titan/superheavy and then pull bits out of it or pull it over. Not sure if the classic Harpoon missile will reappear.

Or the Ram...or the Wrecker!

Those were a hoot too...

Any titan brandishing a trident should be named "Brick".

Maybe we'll see the return of Missile boat titan in the near future.

Guess my next order will include a psytitan.

I can't wait to see a support missile rack for the warlord carapace. And the reaver mount seems super easy to add alternate missiles to.

Strange that the upcoming decals are not for the Iron Crusade Legios (Praesagius, Suturvora, Audax...).

Anyone knows if it's possible to field Psi-Titans for the renegade side, or are they exclusive to Loyalists ? I don't want to order two on Friday and later discover in the book that it's only possible to field a single one...