The Doctor Who Thread

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**Darkvoidof40k**

Demons Run.. don't even get me started on that one. Terrible episode.

**Anung Un Rama**

Just watched the christmas special and I can only repeat myself:

I just love Doctor Who. Every silly little bit.

**BaronIveagh**

Anung Un Rama wrote:Just watched the christmas special and I can only repeat myself:

I just love Doctor Who. Every silly little bit.

Agreed.

**HAZZER**

A really bad episode you could of done the story line in 15 minuets and if they do make another series like that episode id prefer the 15 minuets.

**Kilkrazy**

I think you guys are taking things too seriously.

Doctor Who is basically a children's show and the Christmas Specials are supposed to be holiday time fun not an in-depth examination of the space time continuum.

**Ovion**

I know it's meant to be a bit of silly fun, and I still enjoy the show, just elements need to be toned down a bit.

Plus the christmas eps especially seem to ignore continuity (such as touching a past version of yourself = a nono, then the Doctor encourages the young and old weather controller dude in last years special)

**Goliath**

Darkvoidof40k wrote:
Squidmanlolz wrote:
Darkvoidof40k wrote:
Da Boss wrote:I didn't like it because the ending was ridiculously smaltzy, with another "YOU'VE GOT TO FEEEEL IT!" speech, some cringeworthy acting, and nothing particularly interesting happening. I just felt that the concept was good, but the script was very weak, especially the dialogue.

At the beginning where the Doctor kept repeating "I know!" was another instance of terrible dialogue. I couldn't help but be reminded of the Friday lyric "I've got it, you've got it" that has no explanation of what 'it' is.

Repetition of small phrases like this are an important part of the Doctor's character, the tenth Doctor repeated "What?" for a good deal of his dialogue ( pretty much a catch phrase). It's all got a purpose.

Yes, but at least that made sense. With the repetition of "I know".. it just didn't really tell us anything. Admittedly, the TMG is blatantly of a younger age than myself ever since the last regeneration, so it isn't surprising I'm not particularly enjoying it as much as I used to.

As Ovion said, there really isn't enough explanation of.. well, most things in the episodes anymore. I mean sure, Doctor Who has always had the wacky and the weird, but that seems to be all we are getting now. They're just writing up hasty, unrefined episodes that generally don't satisfy many avid Doctor Who fans, simply because "the kids will like it."

I believe that's enough ranting for now, carry on.

I believe that him repeating "I know" was to pre-empt the kids saying something along the lines of "Thats so cool".

Rather than
Child: That is so cool!
Doctor: I know.
(repeat for each room)

It becomes
Doctor: I know.
repeated at each room.

**English Assassin**

Kilkrazy wrote:I think you guys are taking things too seriously.

Doctor Who is basically a children's show and the Christmas Specials are supposed to be holiday time fun not an in-depth examination of the space time continuum.

Though you have a point, I would make the counter-argument that, as evidenced by 'Talons of Weng-Chiang' and 'The Robots of Death', Doctor Who stories can successfully work on more than one level, providing suspense and horror to engage an adult audience as well as an adventurous runaround for the kids. Indeed it was the success which the show achieved doing just that back in the 1970s which made it the valuable commercial property it is now...

**Anung Un Rama**

This might be interesting for you long time Whovians

http://www.cabletv.com/doctor-who-timeline

**Kilkrazy**

English Assassin wrote:
Kilkrazy wrote:I think you guys are taking things too seriously.

Doctor Who is basically a children's show and the Christmas Specials are supposed to be holiday time fun not an in-depth examination of the space time continuum.

Though you have a point, I would make the counter-argument that, as evidenced by 'Talons of Weng-Chiang' and 'The Robots of Death', Doctor Who stories can successfully work on more than one level, providing suspense and horror to engage an adult audience as well as an adventurous runaround for the kids. Indeed it was the success which the show achieved doing just that back in the 1970s which made it the valuable commercial property it is now...

That is absolutely true, however I would counter-argue that the Christmas specials are about "the Christmas Spirit", fun, and a happy ending, rather than the normal run of episodes.

**English Assassin**

Kilkrazy wrote:
English Assassin wrote:
Kilkrazy wrote:I think you guys are taking things too seriously.

Doctor Who is basically a children's show and the Christmas Specials are supposed to be holiday time fun not an in-depth examination of the space time continuum.

Though you have a point, I would make the counter-argument that, as evidenced by 'Talons of Weng-Chiang' and 'The Robots of Death', Doctor Who stories can successfully work on more than one level, providing suspense and horror to engage an adult audience as well as an adventurous runaround for the kids. Indeed it was the success which the show achieved doing just that back in the 1970s which made it the valuable commercial property it is now...

That is absolutely true, however I would counter-argue that the Christmas specials are about "the Christmas Spirit", fun, and a happy ending, rather than the normal run of episodes.

That is quite true enough, and ordinarily I'd agree - I also think my judgement would have been less harsh had it not been preceded by a season of similarly slick, shallow stories, saccharine characterisation and cop-out endings.

This year's Christmas special, however, vexed me in particular because the plot borrowed so heavily from classic war film 'A Matter of Life and Death', but gave it a cheapening, cost-free happy ending. The fan-service reference to the Caves of Androzani also irked by being throwaway to the point of contemptuousness (and also by reminding me that I could instead have been watching a vastly better Who story made on a hundredth of the budget).

Ah well, at least Sherlock was decent. I shall go and watch some Blake's 7 to cheer myself up...

**reds8n**

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/dw/news/bulletin_120209_01/Filming_the_New_Series

It's almost time. New monsters are becoming real, old friends are returning to Cardiff and somewhere in Wales, a tweed jacket is being taken from its hanger and lovingly dusted off. It can only mean one thing... Filming on the new series of Doctor Who begins on 20 February, 2012!
The first director to shout 'action' will be the award-winning Saul Metzstein whose previous credits include Micro Men (starring Alexander Armstrong and Martin Freeman), the critically acclaimed Late Night Shopping and BBC Wales' Upstairs Downstairs. For the very first time, Doctor Who will be produced at the new BBC Roath Lock Studios in Cardiff, which officially open in March. The production team includes Steven Moffat (Executive Producer and lead writer), Caroline Skinner (Executive Producer) and Marcus Wilson (Producer).
The new series will see Matt Smith return as the Doctor in what Steven Moffat has described as 'the biggest, the best and the most ambitious season we've ever made'. Karen Gillan (Amy) and Arthur Darvill (Rory) are both back, for what will be their final voyage with the Doctor - a thrilling rollercoaster ride which will culminate in a heart-breaking farewell to the Ponds. But there will be more shocks, surprises and adventures to come when the Doctor meets a new friend, in the last very place he could ever have expected...
And yes! We've been promised the return of some old monsters, but some new and terrifying ones lie in wait for the Doctor...
We'll be bringing you all the news about the incredible new series as it emerges, so stay tuned for some big surprises!

and from Bleeding Cool

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/02/08/doctor-who-minirushes-writers-for-next-series-named-shoot-date-revealed-moffats-current-gig-detailed/

Filming on the next series of Doctor Who is set to kick off on the 20th of February, a nice long lead on the show’s autumn premiere date. With pre-production underway, it’s safe to assume that the team will have some scripts in hand, and while the full roster of scribes for the season has yet to be revealed, we can name three of them.

Besides Steven Moffat, which I suppose was almost too obvious to trouble you with, returning writers will include Toby Whithouse and Chris Chibnall, with the latter creating a story that will need a huge set – apparently one of the biggest in the show’s history.

Those guys were put in the frame by Doctor Who Magazine, but it’s SFX that got the juicier info. Whithouse told the magazine, during their Weekender jolly, that his episode is intended to come third in the series and will be “one of the last” Amy and Rory stories.

But not the last, as Moffat is writing that episode himself. It’s not surprising.

He was working on that episode when he gave an interview to The University Observer:

I’m writing that right now, the big Rory and Amy heartbreaking finale. It will be quite heartbreaking. I think you’ll be in trouble watching it.

It’s true – he has a way of plucking the heart strings that Moffat, and when you’d least expect it at times, too. I know Rich has shed bucket loads of tears over Press Gang, and Jane’s scene with Steve in the kitchen in the last episode of Coupling cut me quite deeply as well.

**Sonophos**

Kilkrazy wrote:I think you guys are taking things too seriously.

Doctor Who is basically a children's show and the Christmas Specials are supposed to be holiday time fun not an in-depth examination of the space time continuum.

It's not a continuum it's a big ball of timey wimey stuff!

**Anung Un Rama**

I wish they wouldn't keep talking about how heartbreaking the last adventure with the Ponds will be.

**Sonophos**

Anung Un Rama wrote:I wish they wouldn't keep talking about how heartbreaking the last adventure with the Ponds will be.

Of course it will be heart breaking. We have to say good bye to those legs.

**HAZZER**

Can't wait!

**TheRobotLol**

The christmas episode was aweful. Just terrible.

**jetjetex**

BaronIveagh wrote:
Anung Un Rama wrote:Just watched the christmas special and I can only repeat myself:

I just love Doctor Who. Every silly little bit.

Agreed.

I second that!!! and i just love it and cant wait for season 7! its going to be awesome.

**Anung Un Rama**

There's a new game coming. Looks really, really weird.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IMgZ0K5FWjg

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edit: hmm, the embedding doesn't seem to work.

**HAZZER**

watched it looks pretty cool!

**FabricatorGeneralMike**

Anung Un Rama wrote:I wish they wouldn't keep talking about how heartbreaking the last adventure with the Ponds will be.

Now if we could just get rid of Smith.... keep the ponds, dump smith and make him regenerate = a merry christmas for all =o]

**Morathi's Darkest Sin**

I like Smith. *sulks off to the corner*

On a side note, reminds me I still need to watch the christmas one, been sitting on my HD box for blinkin ages.

**Darkvoidof40k**

FabricatorGeneralMike wrote:
Anung Un Rama wrote:I wish they wouldn't keep talking about how heartbreaking the last adventure with the Ponds will be.

Now if we could just get rid of Smith.... keep the ponds, dump smith and make him regenerate = a merry christmas for all =o]

I think I could live with Smith if they'd just dump the crappy script writing and story arcs. I don't mind all the happy bits, the fun bits and all that but seriously, every good show needs some grimdark. Everyone in this show is just far too happy, and we can't have that; we're Englishmen for crying out loud!

**Kid_Kyoto**

Watching the Christmas special now.

Hey are those Imperial Fists? Those are definitely Space Marine helmets!

**Anung Un Rama**

Just posted this in the comic book discussion forum, but I thought it'd fit in here as well:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/115782-Official-Doctor-Who-Star-Trek-Crossover-Coming-Soon?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=news

**Aduro**

I like Smith... I mean he's no David, but he's still better than the first guy of the recent three.

**Darkvoidof40k**

Aduro wrote:I like Smith... I mean he's no David, but he's still better than the first guy of the recent three.

Chris wasn't so bad.

**Aduro**

To be honest I can barely remember what he was like.

**Darkvoidof40k**

Aduro wrote:To be honest I can barely remember what he was like.

He liked guns and such.

**HAZZER**

Darkvoidof40k wrote:
Aduro wrote:To be honest I can barely remember what he was like.

He liked guns and such.

And blowig stuff up! #hears sudden boom in background#