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Karen Gillan and Arthur Darvill - who play Doctor Who companions Amy Pond and Rory - are to leave the show during the next series.
Doctor Who boss Steven Moffat made the announcement at a screening of the Christmas episode at BBC TV Centre in London.
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So who else wasn't disappointed by the episode because they didn't have high expectations anyway?
In fact if they'd simply given Bill Bailey more screentime then the episode would've improved... hell the few minutes he was in it were probably the best.
I didn't like it because the ending was ridiculously smaltzy, with another "YOU'VE GOT TO FEEEEL IT!" speech, some cringeworthy acting, and nothing particularly interesting happening. I just felt that the concept was good, but the script was very weak, especially the dialogue.
Da Boss wrote:I didn't like it because the ending was ridiculously smaltzy, with another "YOU'VE GOT TO FEEEEL IT!" speech, some cringeworthy acting, and nothing particularly interesting happening. I just felt that the concept was good, but the script was very weak, especially the dialogue.
At the beginning where the Doctor kept repeating "I know!" was another instance of terrible dialogue. I couldn't help but be reminded of the Friday lyric "I've got it, you've got it" that has no explanation of what 'it' is.
Darkvoidof40k wrote:So who else wasn't disappointed by the episode because they didn't have high expectations anyway?
In fact if they'd simply given Bill Bailey more screentime then the episode would've improved... hell the few minutes he was in it were probably the best.
Yep gotta agree here, although i was stupidly optimistic of a fun ride, just felt very rushed and formulaic - agreed that Bill Bailey was good, kept expecting Armstrong to burst into the RAF teen character... Could have made for a better episode...
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Da Boss wrote:I didn't like it because the ending was ridiculously smaltzy, with another "YOU'VE GOT TO FEEEEL IT!" speech, some cringeworthy acting, and nothing particularly interesting happening. I just felt that the concept was good, but the script was very weak, especially the dialogue.
At the beginning where the Doctor kept repeating "I know!" was another instance of terrible dialogue. I couldn't help but be reminded of the Friday lyric "I've got it, you've got it" that has no explanation of what 'it' is.
Repetition of small phrases like this are an important part of the Doctor's character, the tenth Doctor repeated "What?" for a good deal of his dialogue ( pretty much a catch phrase). It's all got a purpose.
Da Boss wrote:I didn't like it because the ending was ridiculously smaltzy, with another "YOU'VE GOT TO FEEEEL IT!" speech, some cringeworthy acting, and nothing particularly interesting happening. I just felt that the concept was good, but the script was very weak, especially the dialogue.
At the beginning where the Doctor kept repeating "I know!" was another instance of terrible dialogue. I couldn't help but be reminded of the Friday lyric "I've got it, you've got it" that has no explanation of what 'it' is.
Repetition of small phrases like this are an important part of the Doctor's character, the tenth Doctor repeated "What?" for a good deal of his dialogue ( pretty much a catch phrase). It's all got a purpose.
An American can see the subtlty behind dialogue while a British person can't...what is the world coming to?
The dialogue in Doctor Who is generally very good. It can be a bit soppy, but Matt Smith has the charisma to stop it being cringeworthy.
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A disturbing trend I've noticed in recent episodes is a leaning to complete nonsense (trees grow a ship that can travel through time using a housewife as pilot and power? o-o) with the sole reason behind any of it being 'because it does that'
A disturbing trend I've noticed in recent episodes is a leaning to complete nonsense (trees grow a ship that can travel through time using a housewife as pilot and power? o-o) with the sole reason behind any of it being 'because it does that'
I believe the trees were able to predict their doom and the coming of a savior, they engineered the craft for the purpose of escaping. It all lined up to allow the doctor and the others to go back to the past.
Someone in the past told them a housewife and the doctor would appear, so they grew a spaceship, a spaceship powered by them inhabiting a mother, which allowed her to fly through time, open a time vortex for her husband etc, etc, etc.
I followed the ep, but the Mothership among other things is part of an evergrowing list of truly absurd things that are pretty much just big 'wait, what?'s
I still enjoy the show, it's just leaning more towards silly again.
Da Boss wrote:I didn't like it because the ending was ridiculously smaltzy, with another "YOU'VE GOT TO FEEEEL IT!" speech, some cringeworthy acting, and nothing particularly interesting happening. I just felt that the concept was good, but the script was very weak, especially the dialogue.
At the beginning where the Doctor kept repeating "I know!" was another instance of terrible dialogue. I couldn't help but be reminded of the Friday lyric "I've got it, you've got it" that has no explanation of what 'it' is.
Repetition of small phrases like this are an important part of the Doctor's character, the tenth Doctor repeated "What?" for a good deal of his dialogue ( pretty much a catch phrase). It's all got a purpose.
Yes, but at least that made sense. With the repetition of "I know".. it just didn't really tell us anything. Admittedly, the TMG is blatantly of a younger age than myself ever since the last regeneration, so it isn't surprising I'm not particularly enjoying it as much as I used to.
As Ovion said, there really isn't enough explanation of.. well, most things in the episodes anymore. I mean sure, Doctor Who has always had the wacky and the weird, but that seems to be all we are getting now. They're just writing up hasty, unrefined episodes that generally don't satisfy many avid Doctor Who fans, simply because "the kids will like it."
I believe that's enough ranting for now, carry on.
It's only saving grace was the return of the Pond at the end. (ok, AND the Bill Bailey forest ranger guy.) Everything else was very skippable.
Still, not really a Dr Who fan. Stopped watching it after Pertwee (had more important school stuff during the Tom Baker years - and watching some of those eps now, I'm quite glad I did).
I thought the bright light was metaphoric for Stephen Moffat's nether regions and the light that he believes emanates from it. (His writing has been increasingly less taut the further he gets from "Coupling" in years.).
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The dad deserved to die. He was probably on his way home from fire bombing Hamburg or levelling Dresden.
Agree with the whole silly deus ex machina stuff that seems to now be prevalent in the show. It kinda started with the end of season three, that silly psychic thing that made the doctor float and stop being gollum.
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See, they at least thought that through. It wasn't machina-ey at all as they explained it and took a year or more setting it up. Very little of tennants run was out and out stupid, a little goofy here and there but they mostly thought it through.
Even smiths first and second seasons were mostly tied together and thought through to a degree though it's had its idiocy too, but I think since demons run its got progressively sillier, and this last ep was pretty much just ludicrous.
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