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Apparently if you own the decks here in Aus already (and didn't buy them in the grace period) it'll set you back 90 bucks to be able to play. That's not....too bad?

How much did the complete set of war room MK II decks cost in Australia?

When I got it a while back, 60ish from memory. But that was 3-4 books ago, so new cards, and it is a new ed and all that, so not too bad compared to the alternative (having to buy decks for everyone then new decks whenever they errata)

$63 or $65AU, that was last year.

$90 for the lot if you already own them in WRmkii? That doesn't sound right. Where did you hear that?

 Azreal13 wrote:
1.5Gb! Yeesh!

I've just seen on the PP forum that the rules are in the app as well, maybe that's partly why?

This is from Tinkerhouse who I believe made the app:

Just to add some data in here to quantify what people are reporting from the Google store. Here is the breakdown of prices in USD:

• All battle box contents are free in the app.

• Ultimate Bundle - $79.99 or $59.99 Founders Discount

• Warmachine Bundle - $47.99 or $39.99 Founders Discount

• Hordes Bundle - $37.99 or $29.99 Founders Discount

• Convergence of Cyriss - $4.99 or $3.99 Founders Discount

• All Other Factions - $8.99 or $6.99 Founders Discount

If you purchased after January 1st 2016 you get the that purchase upgraded to its War Room 2 equivalent for free. If you purchased anything before then you get the Founders Discount for that product. If you purchased all the pieces of any bundle for War Room 1, you get the Founders Discount for that bundle.

And the rules are free. In War Room 2 or from the site once it is released.

Wow, they really are asking that much? This would have been a perfect time to reduce the price of War Room and try to push it as a serious option, At those prices, most people are probably going to skip it.

Wow, that's steep.

Those be expensive prices

The only legitimate reason for an app to be 1.5Gb is if there's an HD movie in it.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
The only legitimate reason for an app to be 1.5Gb is if there's an HD movie in it.

It apparently contains all of the card art in higher quality than previously, and buying the decks only downloads the text of the cards.

Also some more new stuff;

Those prices are disgusting!

overtyrant wrote:
Those prices are disgusting!

They're nearly the same prices as last time. The most expensive one only went up $20, and still cost less than half what it would cost to buy all the physical decks, and includes every card yet to be released as well.

I'm unimpressed with the discount for current deckholders.

overtyrant wrote:
Those prices are disgusting!

So for $80 $($60 if you have the old decks) USD you get all the rules for all the factions, all errata and updates, all future releases and the core rules. For the life of the edition. Yes it's steep but that's far from disgusting. How much does a hardcover rulebook for 40k cost? Or how much for any other system?

Not liking the digital format is another issue I can see people having, especially with how buggy warroom was when first released. The price for what you get is not bad.

Well for a start you get the digital rules for this game free anyway (like you do for a lot of games nowadays) so you can take that out of the equation. I used Warroom for MK2 but asking me to pay $60 for them is outrageous frankly. I'm going to give this new edition a try and see if it is worth the investment again, but since they have changed the playstyle of the caster and nerfed the models I use I don't think it is likely. But then again if I do like it is may have to start a new faction as I don't like the other models in my chosen faction.

Infinity gives away all of its rules and its army builder for free. So yeah, it can be done.

How much would all the cards in paper cost by comparison?

Henshini wrote:
How much would all the cards in paper cost by comparison?

MSRP on the card decks are $(American)20 per deck, per faction I think.

WarRoom isn't a bad deal IMO. But it will be my one resource I buy. Also just a random tip, you can download the app, and you'll have the MK3 rules and all battlegroup cards unlocked for free. It also gets errata'd, which is important if they stick to their "6 month errata" claims.

Prime + my faction decks were going to be more expensive than full retail on Warroom and I'll get a discount.

Henshini wrote:
How much would all the cards in paper cost by comparison?

Iirc it's $220 plus whatever Convergence costs.

There's also a distinct possibility that demand could outstrip supply of dead tree cards at launch, given the indications we've been given, so War Room could very well be the only way to play Mk3 for many of us for some weeks.

overtyrant wrote:
Well for a start you get the digital rules for this game free anyway (like you do for a lot of games nowadays) so you can take that out of the equation. I used Warroom for MK2 but asking me to pay $60 for them is outrageous frankly. I'm going to give this new edition a try and see if it is worth the investment again, but since they have changed the playstyle of the caster and nerfed the models I use I don't think it is likely. But then again if I do like it is may have to start a new faction as I don't like the other models in my chosen faction.

It's your money and you can do what you want with it of course. If you don't find value in it vote with your wallet.

Personally, I find it a good value. As others have pointed out there are other game companies who put out more rules for free, and there are others who charge for every little rule. The companies for who put them out for free generally don't have an app with all the rules that get errata'd and updated with all future releases. That takes time and money and I find it a good value.

I find warroom to be a great tool in theory, but lacking in practice.
I much prefer the cards to phone on the tabletop. Still will be nice to have access as Azrael said, I am positive faction decks could become scarce.

overtyrant wrote:
Well for a start you get the digital rules for this game free anyway (like you do for a lot of games nowadays) so you can take that out of the equation. I used Warroom for MK2 but asking me to pay $60 for them is outrageous frankly. I'm going to give this new edition a try and see if it is worth the investment again, but since they have changed the playstyle of the caster and nerfed the models I use I don't think it is likely. But then again if I do like it is may have to start a new faction as I don't like the other models in my chosen faction.

You don't have to buy the bundle, you know. You can just pay $9 for your faction deck.

 Mr. Grey wrote:

overtyrant wrote:
Well for a start you get the digital rules for this game free anyway (like you do for a lot of games nowadays) so you can take that out of the equation. I used Warroom for MK2 but asking me to pay $60 for them is outrageous frankly. I'm going to give this new edition a try and see if it is worth the investment again, but since they have changed the playstyle of the caster and nerfed the models I use I don't think it is likely. But then again if I do like it is may have to start a new faction as I don't like the other models in my chosen faction.

You don't have to buy the bundle, you know. You can just pay $9 for your faction deck.

Or buy them all separately and spread the cost out. Works out more expensive but it's spread out and $9 a month is like a couple of coffees less a month or something.

I will buy the full deck with the old user discount. I just love going through all the cards, compare and analyse units and stuff.

Warroom is def. neither perfect nor cheap, thats for sure.

Who knows? Maybe Tinkerhouse got it right this time?

They didn't get it right for the 4 years that the MK 2 version was out. I'm all but positive this will be screwed up too.

 Bobby Hostile wrote:
They didn't get it right for the 4 years that the MK 2 version was out. I'm all but positive this will be screwed up too.

Beta reports from some of the test players is positive.

Yeah. It has been improved.

 Mr. Grey wrote:

overtyrant wrote:
Well for a start you get the digital rules for this game free anyway (like you do for a lot of games nowadays) so you can take that out of the equation. I used Warroom for MK2 but asking me to pay $60 for them is outrageous frankly. I'm going to give this new edition a try and see if it is worth the investment again, but since they have changed the playstyle of the caster and nerfed the models I use I don't think it is likely. But then again if I do like it is may have to start a new faction as I don't like the other models in my chosen faction.

You don't have to buy the bundle, you know. You can just pay $9 for your faction deck.

Yep. I only bought 2 decks for Mk 2 - Menoth and Mercs, and that's all I need, battle college gave or looking at stats at release told me everything I needed to know otherwise.

For MK 3, assuming AUD$12 a deck, I'll pay AUD$18 total out of pocket (I buy iTunes Gift cards at 25% off), for the life of the edition with years of updates, or until I choose to start another faction. Definitely an excellent deal for me, way cheaper than The codexes/army books I used to buy some years ago. The the main rules are being released for free as well, so that's going to be my only outlay for the MK 3 change over except for models I choose to buy Definitely a good deal from my perspective, and that's even though I don't have much cash for hobby stuff at the moment.


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That hell mouth seems interesting, and very aggressively priced. The mouth itself will be effectively ARM 21.5 with 8 boxes, and you can kill one of your own tentacles if you want so you can place one up to 8" forward in your activation. I think they're a very cheap way to get your opponent to either give up some board control, or spend lots of resources trying to kill a 6pt unit.

Strangely, the unit is far better when going second, as you can then place far enough forward (22") that you can contest zones fairly well.