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Hello everyone!
For today i have 2 questions that bothered me for some time:
1. What do you think about metal minis, their sight on tabletop along others and will they be more expensive in the future?
2.I really thought about making some project with techno barbarians but well... Its hard to find something as good source material and i don't want to go with too much Mad Max style.

Lemme know what you guys think!

Hello

1. Metal mini are great and here's why: they had to be sculpted by hand and not by computer so they have a lot more character despite their limitations. Generally the standard is lower than plastic if you want perfection but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. All of my top 50 minis are metal but nostalgia may play a part. Nevermind the sight - the heavy feel is what I like when playing with them. TLDR: if you like the mini, use it. Who can say about price? These things are not decided on material costs. Depends where you buy from.

2. Techo Barbarians: two words that are cool on on their own, but when combined make me want to sing. Go for it man, whatever you do will be cool. When you say source material, do yo mean miniature ranges or lore?

I think metal minis are great... when other people have them. They're delicate and the paint chips easily making them a pain to actually use on the tabletop. But they look nice in a display case and they're a lovely piece of nostalgia.

I've seen a few people use the old Warhammer fantasy models as a base for techno barbarians. Add on some guns, a few pieces of machinery and give them a paintjob John Blanche would be proud of and you have some dirty, old, high-tech hobbos.

Old metal minis have a lot of character. But there are some restrictions to them. Due to casting, they tend to be flatter poses. Clean up and assembly is also a little rougher, with more need to pin, and files being required.

From a practical POV, you need to be a little more careful with them on the table. I play with cardboard buildings and metal minis, and you have to watch where you put them on the upper stories.

I love my old lead, and keep fielding them when I can. But their era is pretty much over. Resin and plastic are the way forward. Not that I’d turn down fresh metal, but I don’t expect it. Cost and detail are better served with other materials.

I know techno-barbarians show up in a lot of fiction. Most post apoc stuff, but also some lost tech, regression settings. Depends a lot on what flavor you are going for. Should be easy to do in 40k.

 PaddyMick wrote:
Hello

1. Metal mini are great and here's why: they had to be sculpted by hand and not by computer so they have a lot more character despite their limitations. Generally the standard is lower than plastic if you want perfection but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. All of my top 50 minis are metal but nostalgia may play a part. Nevermind the sight - the heavy feel is what I like when playing with them. TLDR: if you like the mini, use it. Who can say about price? These things are not decided on material costs. Depends where you buy from.

2. Techo Barbarians: two words that are cool on on their own, but when combined make me want to sing. Go for it man, whatever you do will be cool. When you say source material, do yo mean miniature ranges or lore?

Thank you! And yes i meant minis range and lore. Hell even.art.but they are bit weird. Like i get.pre.imperial.times were bad but not all.barbarians were that savage so i will try to do my best at it. As for metal minis i totally agree with their heavy feeling and they just have that something in them and who knows? Maybe even my kids will use them in the future because of how tough they are! XD

Agrabasz wrote:
Hello everyone!
For today i have 2 questions that bothered me for some time:
1. What do you think about metal minis, their sight on tabletop along others and will they be more expensive in the future?

I have no problem with metal sight wise in general. The detail you can achieve depends upon the skill of your sculptors & your molding tech.

More expensive in the future? What do you mean? To produce? For me to buy? 2nd hand resale value??
There IS a reason though why resin, & now plastic, is so much more common nowdays. And that's because about 15 years ago the price of tin went waaay up. It became cheaper for those making minis in quantity to switch (or largely switch) to other materials. Even counting the vastly higher up front costs for the injection molding of plastics.

Agrabasz wrote:
Hello everyone!2.I really thought about making some project with techno barbarians but well... Its hard to find something as good source material and i don't want to go with too much Mad Max style.

Sure, sounds cool enough. Show us what you got.

ccs wrote:

Agrabasz wrote:
Hello everyone!
For today i have 2 questions that bothered me for some time:
1. What do you think about metal minis, their sight on tabletop along others and will they be more expensive in the future?

I have no problem with metal sight wise in general. The detail you can achieve depends upon the skill of your sculptors & your molding tech.

More expensive in the future? What do you mean? To produce? For me to buy? 2nd hand resale value??
There IS a reason though why resin, & now plastic, is so much more common nowdays. And that's because about 15 years ago the price of tin went waaay up. It became cheaper for those making minis in quantity to switch (or largely switch) to other materials. Even counting the vastly higher up front costs for the injection molding of plastics.

Agrabasz wrote:
Hello everyone!2.I really thought about making some project with techno barbarians but well... Its hard to find something as good source material and i don't want to go with too much Mad Max style.

Sure, sounds cool enough. Show us what you got.

Thanks for asking that! I meant about their rarity in few years. I read about that price rise of metal and i don't blame them but at the same time i doubt they will make more especially big ones like Great Unclean One but still they are classy! As for tech barbs well im currently at the board planning so if i will do something then i will surely show my work!

I like my metals.

They are currently appreciating in sell on value, but who knows if that will last? (Remembers the crazy price swings of model railways from the 80s), but I bought them to field, not as investments.

They look great on the table, and I hope they'll stay there for even more years.

Techno barbarians? Go for it.

I would say as far as looks go the only one that should really matter to is you. If you like the looks of the minis use them.

One thing I have not seen mentioned here is the weight. Some people say they like the feel of metal minis and the weight they have. And that may be all fine and dandy for individual models. But when you start transporting armies around that extra weight adds up quick.

The Salt Mine wrote:
I would say as far as looks go the only one that should really matter to is you. If you like the looks of the minis use them.

One thing I have not seen mentioned here is the weight. Some people say they like the feel of metal minis and the weight they have. And that may be all fine and dandy for individual models. But when you start transporting armies around that extra weight adds up quick.

It's true, when I pick up one of my 2e IG infantry cases, my UM/SW case, or my WHFB Dwarfs I can definitely tell the difference from one of my more recent forces.
Likewise when I grab my Flames of War (15mm WWII) case that's full of resin & metal Germans vs my case full of all plastic Brits. (the only gaming thing I've got heavier than this case of Germans is an LE collectors series all metal Thunderhawk (you could use it as a boat anchor)

BUT.... Unless you've got some medical imposed lifting limit, not even a Battle Foam PACK 720 chock 110% full of resin/metal WWII + books is a great burden (weight wise).

Love my metal minis. My entire Eldar army is old-school metal (except for two Wave Serpents), many of my Orks are metal, as well as a lot of my Blood Bowl teams. The older figures just seem to have more personality to them than what is produced today on a computer.

While older metal figures did have their limitations in size, I agree with others that there is so much character to hand-sculpted metal figures. I think part of the reason why they have waited so long to update the Eldar range is that it is hard to improve upon many of those original sculpts by Jes Goodwin and other talented sculptors from the 90's and early 2000's.

I do admit that plastics have come a long way and I prefer them for conversions, but metal (and resin) figures can still show more detail IMO when compared to a plastic figure of the same size. A hand-sculpt may not be as geometrically perfect as a computer-aided design, but there's something special and unique about all of the little details a good sculptor can produce.

Well I am of the opinion that plastic minis are better in terms of details since those are sculpted in a 3D software program and there you can zoom in, so the limitations for tool/brush sizes are far less severe than in real life. Plastic is also a light weight, high tensile strength material, therefore making more realistic proportions possible. Anything to get away from the shorty bubble head look of the past is a plus in my book. The possibilities for diverse poses far less limited as the material enables the sculptors to increase the character profile by giving them wild poses neither pewter nor resin can match. I also hated having to use pins to just glue metal bits together.

That said, some of the metal minis of the old GW has some really good profiles, exactly because of the limitations. The old female Vampire Countess (not Esabella) is one that I really loved. The sculptor had to plan the mini in such a way that her dress formed a solid foundation, and the triangular profile ensures the model is not top heavy and still appears slender. Nowadays, speaking as an old and grumpy grandpa, such as myself, I must say, some of the new poses are either boring because all the attentions are placed on the flimsy decorations (looking at you Girlyman and Void Dragon) or it's riduculously OTT it came all the way back to talentless territory.

If you want to buy a miniature from GW that is Failcast Resin you should always check if it was produced in metal before. If it was, don't bother with the Failcast crap and watch ebay to get the metal one for a comparative price. The quality of the casting will be so much better it's not funny.

Sgt. Cortez wrote:
If you want to buy a miniature from GW that is Failcast Resin you should always check if it was produced in metal before. If it was, don't bother with the Failcast crap and watch ebay to get the metal one for a comparative price. The quality of the casting will be so much better it's not funny.

Ouch that is so true it stings. Failcast well... Failed but you are absolutely right besides i love to buy some used metal minis and repaint them. Its great feeling!


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The Salt Mine wrote:
I would say as far as looks go the only one that should really matter to is you. If you like the looks of the minis use them.

One thing I have not seen mentioned here is the weight. Some people say they like the feel of metal minis and the weight they have. And that may be all fine and dandy for individual models. But when you start transporting armies around that extra weight adds up quick.

It's true, when I pick up one of my 2e IG infantry cases, my UM/SW case, or my WHFB Dwarfs I can definitely tell the difference from one of my more recent forces.
Likewise when I grab my Flames of War (15mm WWII) case that's full of resin & metal Germans vs my case full of all plastic Brits. (the only gaming thing I've got heavier than this case of Germans is an LE collectors series all metal Thunderhawk (you could use it as a boat anchor)

BUT.... Unless you've got some medical imposed lifting limit, not even a Battle Foam PACK 720 chock 110% full of resin/metal WWII + books is a great burden (weight wise).

I didn't thought about that! It is true their weight might be an issue if using entire armies of metal minis. Maybe one day i will gather at least one but for now i use them as easter eggs and fun facts when playing.


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 Gnarlly wrote:
Love my metal minis. My entire Eldar army is old-school metal (except for two Wave Serpents), many of my Orks are metal, as well as a lot of my Blood Bowl teams. The older figures just seem to have more personality to them than what is produced today on a computer.

While older metal figures did have their limitations in size, I agree with others that there is so much character to hand-sculpted metal figures. I think part of the reason why they have waited so long to update the Eldar range is that it is hard to improve upon many of those original sculpts by Jes Goodwin and other talented sculptors from the 90's and early 2000's.

I do admit that plastics have come a long way and I prefer them for conversions, but metal (and resin) figures can still show more detail IMO when compared to a plastic figure of the same size. A hand-sculpt may not be as geometrically perfect as a computer-aided design, but there's something special and unique about all of the little details a good sculptor can produce.

Yeah i like Eldar sculpt nontheless how old it is but it would be fantastic if they could give some more light on them since now their story is quite a big deal.

I have a good chunk of metal minis in my collection, and they're mostly Eldar as it turns out. There's a lovely nostalgic quality to them but also the detail from Eldar in particular is hard to reproduce across their finecast replacements. The weight of the mini, the relative ease of use with the material and the way they can be painted are something which I enjoy in a metal mini. On the table they're not different from their plastic counterparts with the exception of size in some cases. It's really not a surprise that the secondary market is blowing up with metal minis, given their scarcity and sturdiness.

I do think the increasing price is expected as people collect in this hobby. I doubt I'd ever sell my metal minis, but you do have to watch for increasingly common metal recasters on eBay, which I've been burned on recently enough. It's always worth asking for detailed photos of auctions to ensure they're legitimate.

As far as techno-barbarians go, necromunda is a great start for that theme.

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
I have a good chunk of metal minis in my collection, and they're mostly Eldar as it turns out. There's a lovely nostalgic quality to them but also the detail from Eldar in particular is hard to reproduce across their finecast replacements. The weight of the mini, the relative ease of use with the material and the way they can be painted are something which I enjoy in a metal mini. On the table they're not different from their plastic counterparts with the exception of size in some cases. It's really not a surprise that the secondary market is blowing up with metal minis, given their scarcity and sturdiness.

I do think the increasing price is expected as people collect in this hobby. I doubt I'd ever sell my metal minis, but you do have to watch for increasingly common metal recasters on eBay, which I've been burned on recently enough. It's always worth asking for detailed photos of auctions to ensure they're legitimate.

As far as techno-barbarians go, necromunda is a great start for that theme.

Thanks! Also about legit metal minis. Legitimate ones have full games workshop trademark under them (place you put in base) or just GW? I have one Sob and bloodletter that had GW on them

Agrabasz wrote:

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
I have a good chunk of metal minis in my collection, and they're mostly Eldar as it turns out. There's a lovely nostalgic quality to them but also the detail from Eldar in particular is hard to reproduce across their finecast replacements. The weight of the mini, the relative ease of use with the material and the way they can be painted are something which I enjoy in a metal mini. On the table they're not different from their plastic counterparts with the exception of size in some cases. It's really not a surprise that the secondary market is blowing up with metal minis, given their scarcity and sturdiness.

I do think the increasing price is expected as people collect in this hobby. I doubt I'd ever sell my metal minis, but you do have to watch for increasingly common metal recasters on eBay, which I've been burned on recently enough. It's always worth asking for detailed photos of auctions to ensure they're legitimate.

As far as techno-barbarians go, necromunda is a great start for that theme.

Thanks! Also about legit metal minis. Legitimate ones have full games workshop trademark under them (place you put in base) or just GW? I have one Sob and bloodletter that had GW on them

So generally, recasts will also have the "Gamesworkshop" or "GW" prints or little gate on the feet of a lot of metal models but the differences in telling apart real from fake can be subtle. Extra gates, double mould lines, flash where there shouldn't be and miscasts are all tools that can be used to identify recasts. You can also tell with the metal used, but that's something I don't know about. If you don't care about recasts, more power to you, but metal recasts end up with inflated prices because of the caster or the owner thinks they're real.

 Tyranid Horde wrote:

Agrabasz wrote:

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
I have a good chunk of metal minis in my collection, and they're mostly Eldar as it turns out. There's a lovely nostalgic quality to them but also the detail from Eldar in particular is hard to reproduce across their finecast replacements. The weight of the mini, the relative ease of use with the material and the way they can be painted are something which I enjoy in a metal mini. On the table they're not different from their plastic counterparts with the exception of size in some cases. It's really not a surprise that the secondary market is blowing up with metal minis, given their scarcity and sturdiness.

I do think the increasing price is expected as people collect in this hobby. I doubt I'd ever sell my metal minis, but you do have to watch for increasingly common metal recasters on eBay, which I've been burned on recently enough. It's always worth asking for detailed photos of auctions to ensure they're legitimate.

As far as techno-barbarians go, necromunda is a great start for that theme.

Thanks! Also about legit metal minis. Legitimate ones have full games workshop trademark under them (place you put in base) or just GW? I have one Sob and bloodletter that had GW on them

So generally, recasts will also have the "Gamesworkshop" or "GW" prints or little gate on the feet of a lot of metal models but the differences in telling apart real from fake can be subtle. Extra gates, double mould lines, flash where there shouldn't be and miscasts are all tools that can be used to identify recasts. You can also tell with the metal used, but that's something I don't know about. If you don't care about recasts, more power to you, but metal recasts end up with inflated prices because of the caster or the owner thinks they're real.

Hmm thats good to know. I checked on my metals and on the Metal sis base i found 1992 GW with C (in a circle) so i guess its copyright. Also on mini itself is a date,GW and copyright

For a more cheeky view, Dreadsocks are more effective with metal than plastic or resin.

For techno barbarians? anything you want, provided you aren't playing Tau or Eldar. Just about any other army would work for you... Orks would be great, alternately it has been lore for decades that the IoM doesn't understand its own technology (just go for more melee than ranged - as it requires a tech base to make ammo, and anyone who loves blades will tell you that you never need to worry about running out of ammo). Heck, feel free to use a melee knight and to model a RFBC converted to a flail.

Weight of metal has probably only become a thing now because an army is so large volume wise. Then you've got all the massive titans, tanks and character miniatures that are the hardest thing ever made to transport and by the end of it you need a jeep and trailer just to take your army somewhere for a game

In the older days (pre-resin and even mostly pre-plastic) the armies were much smaller in model count and also miniature size, so the weight would be less of an issue.

cardooley wrote:For a more cheeky view, Dreadsocks are more effective with metal than plastic or resin.

One of my worst wargame experiences was coming up against one of those metal dreadnoughts. Guy I was playing got his dreadnought out, had been painted at some point but now looked chipped and with no arms (so not someone to look after their miniatures!) During the game he positioned it on top of some quite flimsy card terrain piece. Underneath said dreadnought was my assault squad, which I reckon probably had 2-3 hours conversion time per miniature put into it (you can see where this is going).
Predictably the card terrain collapsed under the weight of the dreadnought, it bounced down the terrain and bowling balled my assault squad out of the way, smashing most of them to bits.
He just reached over, picked up the dreadnought, put it back on some terrain said "oh sorry mate" and then "next I am moving this squad" as though nothing had happened...

It still gives me the shivers thinking about it years later!

Be careful of pickup games if you have ever invested any effort in your miniatures and especially if your opponent has a metal dreadnought (and especially if they have no arms)

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
I have a good chunk of metal minis in my collection, and they're mostly Eldar as it turns out. There's a lovely nostalgic quality to them but also the detail from Eldar in particular is hard to reproduce across their finecast replacements.

The original Eldar minis I think are some of the finest GW has ever released. Think they still stand up well today!

 Mr Nobody wrote:
I think metal minis are great... when other people have them. They're delicate and the paint chips easily making them a pain to actually use on the tabletop. But they look nice in a display case and they're a lovely piece of nostalgia.

This for me as well. I respect metal minis, and have absolutely no issue with other people using them, but I prefer plastic. I would only use metal if the only alternative were failcast, and even then the cost on ebay is normally prohibitive; £100 for 5 metal Mandrakes, for example.

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
double mould lines

Just want to point out that plenty of legitimate models have double mold lines too. Sculpted green -> master -> production mold, two steps that produce mold lines. Usually a company will clean up the first set before making the production molds, but I've seen enough GW models with double mold lines in their blister packs over the years to know that GW doesn't always get it right.

 Pacific wrote:
Weight of metal has probably only become a thing now because an army is so large volume wise. Then you've got all the massive titans, tanks and character miniatures that are the hardest thing ever made to transport and by the end of it you need a jeep and trailer just to take your army somewhere for a game

In the older days (pre-resin and even mostly pre-plastic) the armies were much smaller in model count and also miniature size, so the weight would be less of an issue.

cardooley wrote:For a more cheeky view, Dreadsocks are more effective with metal than plastic or resin.

One of my worst wargame experiences was coming up against one of those metal dreadnoughts. Guy I was playing got his dreadnought out, had been painted at some point but now looked chipped and with no arms (so not someone to look after their miniatures!) During the game he positioned it on top of some quite flimsy card terrain piece. Underneath said dreadnought was my assault squad, which I reckon probably had 2-3 hours conversion time per miniature put into it (you can see where this is going).
Predictably the card terrain collapsed under the weight of the dreadnought, it bounced down the terrain and bowling balled my assault squad out of the way, smashing most of them to bits.
He just reached over, picked up the dreadnought, put it back on some terrain said "oh sorry mate" and then "next I am moving this squad" as though nothing had happened...

It still gives me the shivers thinking about it years later!

Be careful of pickup games if you have ever invested any effort in your miniatures and especially if your opponent has a metal dreadnought (and especially if they have no arms)

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
I have a good chunk of metal minis in my collection, and they're mostly Eldar as it turns out. There's a lovely nostalgic quality to them but also the detail from Eldar in particular is hard to reproduce across their finecast replacements.

The original Eldar minis I think are some of the finest GW has ever released. Think they still stand up well today!

Ouch i can feel that pain just from reading this. Dreadnought and especially Abbadon had issues with arms if i think right. Dreadnought bowling ball is scary but imagine older metal Unclean One. That one guy could break a table if he ever fell down


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 carldooley wrote:
For a more cheeky view, Dreadsocks are more effective with metal than plastic or resin.

For techno barbarians? anything you want, provided you aren't playing Tau or Eldar. Just about any other army would work for you... Orks would be great, alternately it has been lore for decades that the IoM doesn't understand its own technology (just go for more melee than ranged - as it requires a tech base to make ammo, and anyone who loves blades will tell you that you never need to worry about running out of ammo). Heck, feel free to use a melee knight and to model a RFBC converted to a flail.

Thats great advice! I have lots of some swords,knives, staffs and some dakka i could also find in my bits pile. I had idea of some sort of Mad Max like barbarians with a knack for tech. Something like white scars but more rag-tag (mutants and psykers welcomed!). For clear fun i had idea for moto-chariot and trucks.with flak cannons on the back! Ohh boy now i have something to work with!


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 harlokin wrote:

 Mr Nobody wrote:
I think metal minis are great... when other people have them. They're delicate and the paint chips easily making them a pain to actually use on the tabletop. But they look nice in a display case and they're a lovely piece of nostalgia.

This for me as well. I respect metal minis, and have absolutely no issue with other people using them, but I prefer plastic. I would only use metal if the only alternative were failcast, and even then the cost on ebay is normally prohibitive; £100 for 5 metal Mandrakes, for example.

Let me guess: 5 metal mandrakes for a 100 that are "professionally painted"? Sadly ebay don't works where i am but still i can find some single.metal minis like SoB, old beefed up bloodletters, chaos termies, wolf guard, Chaos Havocs. All metal! Even i found old Redeemer comic book for dirt cheap

 catbarf wrote:

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
double mould lines

Just want to point out that plenty of legitimate models have double mold lines too. Sculpted green -> master -> production mold, two steps that produce mold lines. Usually a company will clean up the first set before making the production molds, but I've seen enough GW models with double mold lines in their blister packs over the years to know that GW doesn't always get it right.

Must say, it's not something I've come across collecting Eldar, all of my metals have been pretty much perfect with the exception of some mould slip, but it doesn't surprise me considering the quality of GW's finecast stuff.

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 harlokin wrote:

 Mr Nobody wrote:
I think metal minis are great... when other people have them. They're delicate and the paint chips easily making them a pain to actually use on the tabletop. But they look nice in a display case and they're a lovely piece of nostalgia.

This for me as well. I respect metal minis, and have absolutely no issue with other people using them, but I prefer plastic. I would only use metal if the only alternative were failcast, and even then the cost on ebay is normally prohibitive; £100 for 5 metal Mandrakes, for example.

Let me guess: 5 metal mandrakes for a 100 that are "professionally painted"? Sadly ebay don't works where i am but still i can find some single.metal minis like SoB, old beefed up bloodletters, chaos termies, wolf guard, Chaos Havocs. All metal! Even i found old Redeemer comic book for dirt cheap

Nope, they are 'new in box'. To be fair I've just noticed another listing going for £75, so a bit cheaper

Agrabasz wrote:

Thanks! Also about legit metal minis. Legitimate ones have full games workshop trademark under them (place you put in base) or just GW? I have one Sob and bloodletter that had GW on them

Either or both.
I've got stuff straight from GW blisters/boxes from store shelves that have "name" & sometimes date on one side/GW (or Games Workshop) on the other. Some have the name but no date. Some don't have GW. Some just say Games Workshop....
The older the piece the more variable it is.

And if I recast that piece? Guess what? Then the recast will have a tab that reads the same.
I highly doubt that most recasters are going to the effort to resculpt/add slotta tabs to thier stuff

My entire army is almost metal models. only plastic stuff is 5 strikes, 2 rhinos , a dreadnought and a NDK. I like them a lot. I have never seen metal clones of GK models. But I was shown a bucket, as in litteral 2 plastic buckets one put in the other, full of cast sob a dude brought from a tournament from Russia 2 years ago.It had over 300 models in it and it weighted like hell.

Although they all did come with no bases and no back packs.

Karol wrote:
My entire army is almost metal models. only plastic stuff is 5 strikes, 2 rhinos , a dreadnought and a NDK. I like them a lot. I have never seen metal clones of GK models. But I was shown a bucket, as in litteral 2 plastic buckets one put in the other, full of cast sob a dude brought from a tournament from Russia 2 years ago.It had over 300 models in it and it weighted like hell.

Although they all did come with no bases and no back packs.

What?! What in cholera? Cast or not but its still damn impressive! I heard stories how GW melted old sob just to make GK minis but i guess that guy just bought entire store of them!

nah those were definitly not GW models, unless GW made really big and different shaped base slots in the past. Those werent pins like my GK termintors, nor slim metal bars like GK strikes. They came with bigger or smalle metal bases with feet fused to them. looked nothing like any metal GW model I have ever seen, but then again I never seen that many in the first place.

Agrabasz wrote:
Hello everyone!
For today i have 2 questions that bothered me for some time:
1. What do you think about metal minis, their sight on tabletop along others and will they be more expensive in the future?
2.I really thought about making some project with techno barbarians but well... Its hard to find something as good source material and i don't want to go with too much Mad Max style.

Lemme know what you guys think!

As a Sisters of Battle player, I have a full army of metal models. [this isn't a given for SoB players anymore , but apart from the fancy collectors box my sisters army is all old models]. I uh, kind of wish they were in plastic. They lose their backpacks continuously despite by best efforts with glue, they chip easily with or without primer so I've given up on priming them so that it's easier to clean and repaint them when they get to bad, and there's like 5 poses in my entire army. Also, many of them don't stand up [seraphim] or are really bad looking [repentia].

On the other hand, if you piss me off, I can brain you with an Exorcist. And I'm also really proud of my metal sisters of battle; I've won more games with them over the editions I've had them than any of my other armies by proportion and they're my tournament army, so they're special to me in that way, and now that there are plastics and a lot more Sisters players, I'm special with my full army of old sisters. [also, the old exorcist and middle-period MkIIIc immolator are better than the modern models for the things] I might buy some zephyrim and new repentia though, 'cause zephyrim are new and I don't have any [and am of course even more unwilling to convert my old seraphim] and the new repentia are so much better looking.