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just been over at bols this morning, the rumoured price of kill team pariah nexus is around £95. (ammended thanks to Aeneades)
seriously wtf!? thats mental.
are games workshop deliberately trying to price themselves out of an audiance.
that kit does NOT justify that kind of price.

also for a laugh I had a look on ebay to see if anyone was doing pre-orders for bits from the kit, like the intercessors:
£48. 48 funting quid? for five models are you kidding me?
£9.60 a model.
what the hell is this all about?
I don't understand why the price should be higher for the tabletop value.
the kit is almost surely etb and the models use +/- the same amount of styrene as say intercessors or assault intercessors.
enough of this smeg, something must be done...

yes Im just pissed because I want some heavy intercessors and dont have a job at the minute, but even so thats beyond absurd. the models are good but no better than any other marine five man squad out there. plastic-quality-wise I mean...

I know its all ebay proffiteering, and its really clear that games workshop kits are pricecreeping again. but thats just absurd on the face of it.
I was going to say something the other day when the dark imperium etb's were re-released as a "new" 'heroes of the chapter' set wit a rediculous price tag of £45, but bit my tongue. As an exercise in seeing if it was just me being unreasonable, after a quick look at ebay, I managed to find all the models from different sellers and still rack it in at less than £30 (minus postage, but still)
this now, however has sparked the rant fire.
anyone care enough to throw in their two pennith on the subject?

Ebay can charge what they like, and I'd guess they're pricing so high knowing the demand will also be high.
GW and pricing... that's a can of worms in itself. I for one won't pay for Pariah Nexus, the contents really don't justify the price.

Kill team boxes have been the full kits, except for rogue trader which was an one off.

Heavy intercessors are in gravis armor, so are more likely to be priced like terminators than infantry squads. 40 quid for a box of 5 would not be unexpected.

For crazy price arguments, compare the UK price which includes VAT with the prices in USD or especially AUD and NZD vs the real exchange rates.

 osjclatchford wrote:
just been over at bols this morning, the rumoured price of kill team pariah nexus is around £115.

The EU price lists this at €125 which would mean it would be priced at £95 based upon comparable prices on GW site.

This is not news or a rumor. If you can, I'd suggest moving this to a discussion forum instead.

Aeneades wrote:

 osjclatchford wrote:
just been over at bols this morning, the rumoured price of kill team pariah nexus is around £115.

The EU price lists this at €125 which would mean it would be priced at £95 based upon comparable prices on GW site.

noted, thanks for pointing that out... still too high so my arguement is valid as far as I'm concerned

 Huron black heart wrote:
Ebay can charge what they like, and I'd guess they're pricing so high knowing the demand will also be high.

I too suspect this. was just surprised at how many of these pre-orders had been sold already at this price by this ebayer!

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
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Heavy intercessors are in gravis armor, so are more likely to be priced like terminators than infantry squads. 40 quid for a box of 5 would not be unexpected...

call me old fashioned but the price should refect the quality and craftmanship of the models. not the tabletop vaue alone the terminators are indeed a great
example; the quality of the models in the kit simply do not warrant that price at all. yet the quality of something similar such as the da deathwing knights or even the primaris bladeguard do have sculpts that warrant the price. yes that can be considered subjective but can anyone honestly say that the standard terminators are better models than those two.

I can understand a command figure or something truly special with real characterisation being worth more but the heavy intercessors are not that. they are in all reality just 'grunt' models. I'd expect a difference of perhaps 50p a model compared to say a regular intercessor but not £3 or £4 per model more...
it just seems unjustified...

 Scottywan82 wrote:
This is not news or a rumor. If you can, I'd suggest moving this to a discussion forum instead.

well this cna be moved wherever the mods see fit but I put it here as the whole thing is still based on rumor. nothing confirmed as yet...

just to be clear, Im not out to start a flame war or anything, just honestly really interested in what everyone thinks about this ongoing issue.

Wait till the actual Heavy Intercessors Box comes out and get them for -20% like everyone does. It's sad that ebay nowadays is not a place to get kits for a reasonable price from decent hobbyists, but that's nothing new.
Also, as long as you wait for the Box, just take one of the other 5(!) troop choices Marines have. Or proxy with heavy Bolter Devastators.

 osjclatchford wrote:
the kit, like the intercessors:
£48. 48 funting quid? for five models are you kidding me?

They charge exactly that and more over here, friend.

They're probably trying to sound out the exact point whales stop biting, considering how much scalping happened in 2020, ol' Geedubs probably feel like they missed out.

I welcome anyone who wants to join the "voting with my wallet club".

Sgt. Cortez wrote:
Also, as long as you wait for the Box, just take one of the other 5(!) troop choices Marines have. Or proxy with heavy Bolter Devastators.

Yes I forgot to mention that I'm viewing this exclusively from a modellers perspective not a gamer's. so yeah alternate models do indeed present other options for gamers..

but for modellers its indeed, just a case of wait and see what happens...
converting them from other troops is not really worth it imho.
espescially when the intent is to use the existing models to convert something else anyway

 posermcbogus wrote:
...I welcome anyone who wants to join the "voting with my wallet club".

if this price does not drop over time, I will be believe me. its simply a case of having to.

 osjclatchford wrote:

yes Im just pissed because I want some heavy intercessors and dont have a job at the minute, but even so thats beyond absurd.

GW's price-stunt notwithstanding, if you're out of job, worrying about 40K, whether it's with super-pricy new heavy new intercessors or a box of super-cheap, dipped 1995 Cadian Guardsmen from Ebay, maybe shouldn't be your priority right now?

 osjclatchford wrote:
just been over at bols this morning, the rumoured price of kill team pariah nexus is around £95. (ammended thanks to Aeneades)
seriously wtf!? thats mental.
are games workshop deliberately trying to price themselves out of an audiance.
that kit does NOT justify that kind of price.

If it sells, it sells and GW will only keep up the price up until they decide it is time to rise them again. There are very fun items, I can remember, from 8th that didn't sell in second or minutes. I think the eldar boxs and the some of the tau vs sw, stuff didn't sell that well.

Only GW and smart market analysis people know what is the breaking point and what it may be in a few years. Who knows maybe in 10th ed, a character is going to be 55 euro, and a box of troops 160 euros.

£42 is my guess on the heavy intercessor box price. Some people thinking it will be £36.50 are being too optimistic.

Space Marine players are the new whales and they are going to milk them dry. It's why I am not going to touch my Space marines for the foreseeable future.

GW does this from time to time to test the price they can charge players and with Space Marines being so hot right now they are in for it now. Aeldari players had a touch of this price testing with Blood of the Phoenix which didn't go that well.

Well, I wanted 15x of them to fill out my gravis component of the army but it will be 5x and 5x only now if they are as I predict above.

At some point the milking doesn't work, yes I want one box, but I'm not paying £120+ for 3x boxes, when I want to buy dreadnoughts and storm speeders that are the same price (let alone a gladiator or two, and I'm not even looking at repulsers yet).

 Eldarsif wrote:
Space Marine players are the new whales and they are going to milk them dry. It's why I am not going to touch my Space marines for the foreseeable future.

GW does this from time to time to test the price they can charge players and with Space Marines being so hot right now they are in for it now. Aeldari players had a touch of this price testing with Blood of the Phoenix which didn't go that well.

Had to buy a Primaris Apothecary yesterday. $35 for a single infantry model. This pricing is robbery.

I read once that the reason GW got started with boxed sets is because their Board will never let them take the price down on any kit. If that's true, welcome to the days of $30 infantry models.

 osjclatchford wrote:

 posermcbogus wrote:
...I welcome anyone who wants to join the "voting with my wallet club".

if this price does not drop over time, I will be believe me. its simply a case of having to.

This is how GW can demand the price they do. It has nothing to do with the actual price of manufacturing/delivering the product and everything to do with what people will pay.
You don't need to, you could go without Heavy Intercessors. Or proxy them from something out, if you choose a reasonable alternative most people won't have an issue outside of official events.

Necromunda proves that they can sell amazing boxes at just £25, whilst expecting to sell fewer boxes to fewer people than a 40k box.

GW prices high shocker.

Reports appear to confirm online boycotts haven’t exactly worked in the past.

News just in, this time it’s over a currently hypothetical price.

 osjclatchford wrote:
just been over at bols this morning, the rumoured price of kill team pariah nexus is around £95. (ammended thanks to Aeneades)
seriously wtf!? thats mental.
are games workshop deliberately trying to price themselves out of an audiance.
that kit does NOT justify that kind of price.

also for a laugh I had a look on ebay to see if anyone was doing pre-orders for bits from the kit, like the intercessors:
£48. 48 funting quid? for five models are you kidding me?
£9.60 a model.
what the hell is this all about?
I don't understand why the price should be higher for the tabletop value.
the kit is almost surely etb and the models use +/- the same amount of styrene as say intercessors or assault intercessors.
enough of this smeg, something must be done...

yes Im just pissed because I want some heavy intercessors and dont have a job at the minute, but even so thats beyond absurd. the models are good but no better than any other marine five man squad out there. plastic-quality-wise I mean...

I know its all ebay proffiteering, and its really clear that games workshop kits are pricecreeping again. but thats just absurd on the face of it.
I was going to say something the other day when the dark imperium etb's were re-released as a "new" 'heroes of the chapter' set wit a rediculous price tag of £45, but bit my tongue. As an exercise in seeing if it was just me being unreasonable, after a quick look at ebay, I managed to find all the models from different sellers and still rack it in at less than £30 (minus postage, but still)
this now, however has sparked the rant fire.
anyone care enough to throw in their two pennith on the subject?

You think someone on EBay charging you 9.60GBP/model is bad? Be thankful that you aren't an AoS player trying to build a Chaos Varangaard unit. GW's charging $100 for 3 mounted chaos knights.
Yes, they're very nice models. And effective on the table. But nowhere near nice or effective enough to justify $33/horse. Not when there's no end of companies making bulky evil mounted knights.

 osjclatchford wrote:

the kit is almost surely etb and the models use +/- the same amount of styrene as say intercessors or assault intercessors.

You do know you would get more creditability if you actually bothered with facts? GW has long time ago confirmed they are full kits. Not ETB


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Sgt. Cortez wrote:
Wait till the actual Heavy Intercessors Box comes out and get them for -20% like everyone does. It's sad that ebay nowadays is not a place to get kits for a reasonable price from decent hobbyists, but that's nothing new.
Also, as long as you wait for the Box, just take one of the other 5(!) troop choices Marines have. Or proxy with heavy Bolter Devastators.

It will cost more than if you get KT. KT is still discount box. Discount from a discount(-20% applies to KT as well) is better than just discount


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 osjclatchford wrote:

 posermcbogus wrote:
...I welcome anyone who wants to join the "voting with my wallet club".

if this price does not drop over time, I will be believe me. its simply a case of having to.

Well people have kept saying this now for AT LEAST 24 years bare minimum.

Obviously GW hasn't priced out itself yet and in fact based on capitalism have it right or even too cheap.

Same price as Eradicators per model, why the shock?

If space marine players want to be pampered like whales they've got to eat like whales.

If you want year-long nonstop product releases you've gotta slurp em up at any price my dudes.

2 infantry boxes and 2 chars are already close to that price, which leaves the cards, book, gameboard and scenario bits as the box bonus.

Doesn't seem really a shocking price to me, at least in GW standards.

People complain.

But they'll still pay.

Slowly does the frog boil.

Seriously, just don't buy overpriced stuff. You don't need it, it costs too much, just let it pass you by.

If you think something is worth it, buy it. If not, don't. I know this is glib, but it really is the only way to approach this. GW can charge whatever they like, we're not forced to buy it. I'm continually surprised at what they can get away with charging.

I must say Im surprised by the multitude and variation of responses to this.
my thoughts on this have indeed been challenged by the arguments posted here.
many fair and understandable points.

I think some of you might have missed the point on some of what I was saying. Im not saying that anything Ive said is anything other than my opinion. not fact.
I just fancied a moan up is all. no harm in it.

I suppose in the end the full box set is indeed on par with the rest of gw's recent releases. theres rules and card and scenery etc...

I feel now, Re. the heavy intercessors, that if these were a multipart kit at this price I'd be more sanguine about a £40 ish price tag. begrudging, yes,but accepting nonetheless.
but this recent trend of gw re-packaging monopose etb kits as 'new' at similar prices is wrong and they know it. so do we. this is the thing I'm most unhappy about.
I like an easybuild monopose as much as the next guy (remind me of my era of gaming with metal models) but I refuse to pay the same price for a monopose as a multi-pose kit with tons of extra options. I feel its just not on.

Im hoping that a multipart will be on the cards but it also may not. just look at the bikes... they stayed as the same sprue. (I think)
its more likely these WILL end up multi-part as the eradicators have, so It could all be moot, but you never can tell with gw these days...

guess time will indeed tell on this but thanks for the honest comments guys.
I'm well and truely out of the loop these days and its good to know how the community feels on a topic sometimes...
thats why I posted this. to see what the scuttlebut is.

These are multipart kits. This is the full Heavy Intercessor kit.

GW confirmed this when they announced Pariah Nexus.

The real problem is that a crack squad of Redshirts will come to your house and hold a gun to your head until you buy them.

I'm going to wait until the kits come out on their own, but I'm definitely getting three boxes of Heavy Intersessors eventually, so I can run a whole gravis army. I expect it'll be $70 or so a box CND, just means for me that each box will be my model purchase for that month.

well, I must have missed that in the announcement was it in the vid? I skipped that and just read the acompanying text.
as I say, I'm not claiming to be in possesion of all the facts. this was a passionate rant afterall. cant expect it to be that stuctured and logical lol.

so multipart is good.
however, It doesnt look as though its exactly brimming with options based on the photos Ive seen... only seen the same 5 guys posted around the net. its not just monopose vs multipose here. its options.
The point is still valid; a multi-part kit might as well be monopose if its just as optionless is what I'm saying...
people cant build an all gravis army with only five poses of heavy intercessors.
yes the intrcessors are a five man sprue but there area plethora of arm choices to change the pose considerable, model to model...
also more options in gravis parts are needed for any real conversion material. not so easy to swap arms from othet primariskits wothout a lot of gs otherwise...

You could always look at the unit entry in the Space Marines codex and see that yeah, there are options. It's just different versions of the bolt rifle/heavy bolter though.