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Wow. Just wow.

I never read the comic, so Im not biased there.

KingCracker wrote:I never read the comic, so Im not biased there.

Spoiler:

I think of all the people to off, Dale was on the list of not to kill off. He literally was the only (although annoying at times) voice of reason in the group. What the hell? I figured Shane would be meeting his end here

I'm pretty sure Carl's sick in the head and stupid.

Yeah, pretty safe to say that Carl is a highly disturbed little boy showing suicidal (and homidical?) tendencies.

Carls not "normal" nanymore - but then thats likely going to help him survive

Good to see Andrea calling Lori out......in some ways I'd rather watch the Shane, Daryl and Andrea show - they could bring Glen and Maggie as well............

I like Glenn, he can and should be in any of the zombie shows

Having watched the last two episodes... not sure if I'll be watching more.
The kid is too much for me... just like the irritating little girl in Earth2. All he's going to do is get more people killed.

The mid-season thing should've been Shane dying. He really shouldn't be alive at this point and is only serving to be an irritant. Also Carl should've been eaten by that zombie. Just eaten him right up

KingCracker wrote:I never read the comic, so Im not biased there.

Spoiler:

I think of all the people to off, Dale was on the list of not to kill off. He literally was the only (although annoying at times) voice of reason in the group. What the hell? I figured Shane would be meeting his end here

That's the thing. This show has gone off the rails for me. This has become the anti-comic. Literally, all the most popular characters in the book are the least popular on the show because they don't know what the hell they're doing.
In the book, Andrea is ten years younger, cool, and Dale's banging her. That's not the most polite way to put it but actually it was quite touching. Dale always felt that Andrea only hooked up with him because it was a crazy zombie apocalypse. He never felt he was good enough for her because he was old enough to be her grandpa. But the thing was Andrea really did love him and of all of them the relationships theirs was the most dedicated.
So I've got that whole thing to not look forward too now.

In the comic Andrea is cool. This will blow TV people's mind but Andrea is one of the most dangerous people left on the planet. She can put a bullet through the eye of a needle with a rifle. In the show she's just some dumb

In the comic Rick is a good leader. In the show he's a zombie-wrangling, indecisive hypocrite.

Also, the idea the group would keep a kid prisnor, then torture him ,mainly beacause he had the gall to shot at them after they'd murdered two of their gang: madness. And I can't believe I'm going to say this but they didn't even let that T-Dawg guy talk during the meeting. Holy, token black guy.

ARGHH! Sorry, I have to let my nerd-rage subside.

I can't believe how many "characters" are never even on camera, they always refer to people that haven't been in an episode more than like once and poor t-dog doesn't even get like a line of dialogue per episode, just seems weird.

Wait, Token Black Character?

THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE TYREESE?!?

Tyreese is a BAD-ASS how could you NOT put him in the Show?!? Who else is going to beat the gak out of Rick? Who else is going to charge into a gym full of Zombies with nothing but a Wrench and ask the Zombies "Would You Kindly leave?" Gah, I have NO interest in the show anymore....


Also, Carl is also an amazing character in the comics.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:

KingCracker wrote:I never read the comic, so Im not biased there.

Spoiler:

I think of all the people to off, Dale was on the list of not to kill off. He literally was the only (although annoying at times) voice of reason in the group. What the hell? I figured Shane would be meeting his end here

That's the thing. This show has gone off the rails for me. This has become the anti-comic. Literally, all the most popular characters in the book are the least popular on the show because they don't know what the hell they're doing.
In the book, Andrea is ten years younger, cool, and Dale's banging her. That's not the most polite way to put it but actually it was quite touching. Dale always felt that Andrea only hooked up with him because it was a crazy zombie apocalypse. He never felt he was good enough for her because he was old enough to be her grandpa. But the thing was Andrea really did love him and of all of them the relationships theirs was the most dedicated.
So I've got that whole thing to not look forward too now.

In the comic Andrea is cool. This will blow TV people's mind but Andrea is one of the most dangerous people left on the planet. She can put a bullet through the eye of a needle with a rifle. In the show she's just some dumb

In the comic Rick is a good leader. In the show he's a zombie-wrangling, indecisive hypocrite.

Also, the idea the group would keep a kid prisnor, then torture him ,mainly beacause he had the gall to shot at them after they'd murdered two of their gang: madness. And I can't believe I'm going to say this but they didn't even let that T-Dawg guy talk during the meeting. Holy, token black guy.

ARGHH! Sorry, I have to let my nerd-rage subside.

Ricks getting better but yeah pretty much everything else is right - I think they are trying to send Andrea towards where she ends up in the comic

Yikes, the comic sounds COMPLETELY different then the show. I mean the names are the same, and they have zombies in both, but from the sounds of it, you could call them coincidences at best


Yea, I dont care for Andrea much, I think Rick is a pathetic leader, Dale WAS annoying at times, but completely needed for the group. Cheese and crackers

KingCracker wrote:Yikes, the comic sounds COMPLETELY different then the show. I mean the names are the same, and they have zombies in both, but from the sounds of it, you could call them coincidences at best


Yea, I dont care for Andrea much, I think Rick is a pathetic leader, Dale WAS annoying at times, but completely needed for the group. Cheese and crackers

It is very different. Andrea is actually a great character in the comic, Dale was never really annoying nor was he a super moral goody good.

The show is going downhill for me. I want to like it and I desperately want it to get better. But this season is killing me.

Did a lil dance when Dale died.

Tzeentchling9 wrote:

I'm pretty sure Carl's sick in the head and stupid.

Spoiler:

Sure, it's perfectly normal to follow an execution party and tell your dad to blow someone's brains out. Yeah, let's steal a gun(again!) and walk out into the woods alone to play with walkers.

honestly, I have a lot of respect for carl in the comics



and



but, more importantly, in the comics



like otis, they should've stuck with the comic in how dale dies.

Well better late then never to the party I guess.

Absolutely loved season 1, it was so good and solid throughout, good characters, pacing, plot, production, settings etc.
Thought the season finale Ts-19 was amazing.

Frist half of S2 I didnt enjoy as much and while it is based on the comic and they have to follow the plot to a degree I thought it was parochial and very "down on the farm" (literally),
Having said that "Pretty much dead already"s ending was un fething real television.
I dont know much about AMC being across the water but I assume its a cable channel? Brilliant as it was I cant wait to see if our terrestrials try and pick up the show and broadcast it

Last 3 episodes its definelty picked up though, I still feel they need to get away from the farm soon however and bring in a more widespread view of things, even if its snippets here and there. The CDC angle I liked, perhaps something similar with a conspiracy piece or something.



Fav characters are defo Shane and Daryl (surprising since they are sort of the typical alpha male, brooders which usually turns me right off TV).

Havent read the comic but very interesting to read Kanucks views on the seperation between the show and it.

Wow.....Now we're moving along.

Last nights episode was darn good and it's looking like the season finale is going to be zombie crazy!

I agree last nights episode was good. Pretty much every thing is Lauries fault again imo.

Deathshead420 wrote:I agree last nights episode was good. Pretty much every thing is Lauries fault again imo.

Spoiler:

So is it airborn now? Or Did Shane rise because he cut his hand last week with the same knife that he used to kill one of the cop walkers?

I don't think it's all Lauries fault. Shane was devolving long before that talk. I mean he already was ready to kill Rick the last time they were alone.

Oh its definitely airborne now. Shane killed that kid by breaking his neck, and he came back. That had all kinds of confusion on Darrel and Glens faces when Darrel said "Naw man, theres no bites or scratches on him anywhere.....thats what killed him" And pointed to the kids broken neck.


Agreed, FINALLY this show is going places. Dear lord I was getting annoyed

I think Shane rose because of the knife wound on his hand being infected. I'm kind of upset that they didn't keep Shane's death true to the graphic novel, that page is my favorite from the first two books. I'm also upset that the season is ending so early, it seems like the first half of the season was a lull, then the break, now it was a few weeks of really good episodes for sweeps...

No, Shane rose because everyone has the disease now. Zombies don't actually carry the virus. They carry a different disease that causes you to die. Then the other disease reanimates you.

@Kingcracker

Yeah, it's finally starting to move. I think they realize just how close they came to hurting the show long term with the first half of the season. At least I hope so

Uhg, speaking of that, I played L4D2 the other day, and simply HATED it. You can look down your sights when shooting?! I seriously hate that style of game play. Just drives me nuts.

Everyone is a carrier of the virus. That's what I theorized the mad scientist whispered to Rick. But Rick didn't seem to know about that either. I honestly think they forgot about that. Good job guys.
Due to my disappointment about the direction of this show I only got around to watching it now. I am further disappointed. There's no reason to not have Carl kill Shane. That's a major moment in Carl's life. I just don't get it.

Slowly but surely they are killing off all the characters I do not like. Soon it will only be Darrel and T-Dog and I will be happy

I've never read the comics but i love the show. Carl defiantly has something wrong with him but why Shane of all people?
He's my fave character. Now im waiting for season 3 haha

KamikazeCanuck wrote:

KingCracker wrote:I never read the comic, so Im not biased there.

Spoiler:

I think of all the people to off, Dale was on the list of not to kill off. He literally was the only (although annoying at times) voice of reason in the group. What the hell? I figured Shane would be meeting his end here

That's the thing. This show has gone off the rails for me. This has become the anti-comic. Literally, all the most popular characters in the book are the least popular on the show because they don't know what the hell they're doing.
In the book, Andrea is ten years younger, cool, and Dale's banging her. That's not the most polite way to put it but actually it was quite touching. Dale always felt that Andrea only hooked up with him because it was a crazy zombie apocalypse. He never felt he was good enough for her because he was old enough to be her grandpa. But the thing was Andrea really did love him and of all of them the relationships theirs was the most dedicated.
So I've got that whole thing to not look forward too now.

In the comic Andrea is cool. This will blow TV people's mind but Andrea is one of the most dangerous people left on the planet. She can put a bullet through the eye of a needle with a rifle. In the show she's just some dumb

In the comic Rick is a good leader. In the show he's a zombie-wrangling, indecisive hypocrite.

Also, the idea the group would keep a kid prisnor, then torture him ,mainly beacause he had the gall to shot at them after they'd murdered two of their gang: madness. And I can't believe I'm going to say this but they didn't even let that T-Dawg guy talk during the meeting. Holy, token black guy.

ARGHH! Sorry, I have to let my nerd-rage subside.

You're starting to sound like the whiny LOTR fan who was upset they left out Tom Bombadil. The show was never advertised as direct screenplay write up from the comic.

Back on topic. I still think there is a possibility that something happened to shane and randall which we didnt see. Like what was happening in all those flashes of zombies while Shane was dieing?

ifStatement wrote:
I still think there is a possibility that something happened to shane and randall which we didnt see. Like what was happening in all those flashes of zombies while Shane was dieing?

I kind of took that to represent the "turning" into a zombie.