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Evil Lamp 6 wrote: On that note, once in combat, does anyone feel like the Repentia Superior is mostly useless and use her to dump extra wounds on when you can? Yeah she initially can help with getting that Act off, but after that she becomes the bullet sponge so to speak.

Yea, I just use her to soak up attacks - with power armor and FnP she serves basically the same role as the Crusaders hanging out with my Death Cultists. Throw herself in front of the low save girls alive until she kicks the bucket.

well the one thing that is nice is if you cant see the model you cant kill it. With the ability to now hide and strike when I want to I gives me a lot more control over how they advance.


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-Vehicles movement and weapons. Defensive and Primary Weapons are gone. You can fire all of your weapons at most of the time. But moving faster will result in less weapon fired at basic BS, the rest will be fired at BS1 (Snap Fire)-

Ok so say you can now fire 1 weapon while moving 12 inches at regular BS... That means MM Immolator will be getting double dice Turn 1, So you can drop the dom squad out they move 6 inches and fire and the Immolator now can move 12 and fire its MM.... Am I reading this wrong.

n0t_u wrote:I probably would at one point, love that tank.

And because it might be helpful.

Wow, this makes SoB awful at 2,000 points IMO. Four troops? How badly will this suck?

I guess there'll be no more 2,000-point tournaments for my girls.

Just take guard allies and pretend you're playing c:WH.

LOL yeah Im racking my brains on how to put a 2k list back together...



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I would prefer to play at 1999 then 2k I can drop a spot light an not change my list 1 bit lol


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MVBrandt wrote:We're strongly looking at, both in seriousness and tongue-in-cheek,

3PO/1997 format
or simply 1/1999 format

Effectively, a 1999 point tournament, with 1 grace point you are allowed to go over by.

I think you might see alot of Gts doing this sort of thing also

Please tell me I'm not the only one tempted to start laying scatter-free Orbital Bombardments on Celestine in assault, only to see her stand back up again...

That's worth 300 points in hilarity, right?

cowleyc wrote:Please tell me I'm not the only one tempted to start laying scatter-free Orbital Bombardments on Celestine in assault, only to see her stand back up again...

That's worth 300 points in hilarity, right?

I was thinking the same thing except with IG SWS after they use their Demo Charge. But yeah, that's pretty brilliant.

According to allies table, the only army SoB are "brothers in arms" is IG. That means that the army wide rules benefit each other and IC can join allied units (transports?).

I've been looking through IG codex to find how we could benefit and only thing I see is Uriah with IG blob for 150 attack rolls and Creed+Astropath for an outflanking army. In addition, if it's possible, then the orders could help a bit. Also, manticore. How could I forget about manticore.

The other one I am interested is GK. I dont like and wont spam 12p acolytes with vehicles, but I was thinking of taking some Paladins/Terminators, Inquisitors and Assassins for some extra oomph.

Not sure Creed would be worth it, but orders would be quite nice.

cowleyc wrote:Please tell me I'm not the only one tempted to start laying scatter-free Orbital Bombardments on Celestine in assault, only to see her stand back up again...

That's worth 300 points in hilarity, right?

I'm not sure you can do that seeing as Celestine wouldn't be consider one of his units. GK are grudging allies so I would say you could only do that the the GK troops that you brought along.

I would probably taken Straken CCS with Astropath in Chimera plus a platoon for Autocannons and Lascannons with warm bodies to hold objectives.

Also, Chimeras would be cheap transports for Repentia.

pzbw7z wrote:

n0t_u wrote:I probably would at one point, love that tank.

And because it might be helpful.

Wow, this makes SoB awful at 2,000 points IMO. Four troops? How badly will this suck?

I guess there'll be no more 2,000-point tournaments for my girls.

I don't know... taking only 2 troop choices in a game over 2,000 points seems excessively risky. I think 4 troop choices for such a large game is a solid option. Besides it's not like were the only army with this problem. Although other armies do have other choices.

For me personally 6 dominions squads would be amazing, 4 hq units? if you can get past the standard confessor we can take 4 battle conclaves. 6 exorcists? Wow that sounds awesome (if expensive)

I'm excited by the expansion of the FOC but once you start getting closer to 3,000 it seems more like an apocalypse game, now i don't have anything against those games, i've have not even played one but I do know they are significant in length. It's good though that higher point games are inherently more flexible since they expanded the FOC, although you could house rule it anyway it's nice seeing the nod, but I'm sure GW has it's own reasons for doing that.

meh_ wrote:According to allies table, the only army SoB are "brothers in arms" is IG. That means that the army wide rules benefit each other and IC can join allied units (transports?).

I've been looking through IG codex to find how we could benefit and only thing I see is Uriah with IG blob for 150 attack rolls and Creed+Astropath for an outflanking army. In addition, if it's possible, then the orders could help a bit. Also, manticore. How could I forget about manticore.

The other one I am interested is GK. I dont like and wont spam 12p acolytes with vehicles, but I was thinking of taking some Paladins/Terminators, Inquisitors and Assassins for some extra oomph.

I've been doing the same... toying with the notion of repentia in a Vendetta. Will need to see the specifics on psychic powers before deciding between a CCS and the LD9 ( ) psyker HQ we could get though.

quiestdeus wrote:I've been doing the same... toying with the notion of repentia in a Vendetta. Will need to see the specifics on psychic powers before deciding between a CCS and the LD9 ( ) psyker HQ we could get though.

With the possibility of repairing Hull Points, I'd almost consider a Tech-Priest for an allied IG HQ.

Vendetta would be a poor choice since they would die horribly in a flyer crash and the Vend has to hover for them to disembark.

Also, taking a psyker? HERESY!

Take Straken for his FC / Counter attack bubble.

Do you think not taking allies will hurt a SOB list?

Spidey0804 wrote:Do you think not taking allies will hurt a SOB list?

Hurt? No. SOB will still be good.
Could they be a lot better? Yeah.

Think back to how cool it was to have a durable, cheap scoring unit with a couple autocannons in C:WH. Now imagine you had scouting doms and conclaves. Yeah...

If I ally, I'll realistically just bring an Inquisitor (counts as Straken CCS) with retinue and some inducted guard (PCS, 2 IS with Autocannons, HWS with Autocannons or LasC), maybe a Vendetta for giggles. My guard are already an inquisitorial force, so it is a perfect match.

pretre wrote:Vendetta would be a poor choice since they would die horribly in a flyer crash and the Vend has to hover for them to disembark.

Also, taking a psyker? HERESY!

Take Straken for his FC / Counter attack bubble.

Yeah, I have not really followed the rules for fliers, and was really hoping you could start them in "skimmer mode" and then use their scout move. Scouting Vendetta with Repentia and scouting Dominions would have been a nice alpha-strike. However, looking at how fliers have to start in reserve it seems less viable. I don't have a IG codex (yet), is Straken an IC? Could you put him in a Jacobus Conclave and stick them all in a chimera?

As for psyker heresy... if he can let my sisters overwatch at their regular BS, he'll be a-ok in my book

Has anyone seen anything about Walkers in 6th ed? Any chance Penitent Engines are slightly less prone to insta-dying the second I put them on the table? 1d6+3 attacks on the charge would be so nice to have running around.

I saw open-topped is still +1 to the damage table, but no indication if squadrons have changed, or if walkers get hull points too. Going super-meta here, but if terminators make a resurgence due to lack of AP1 and AP2, and people switch to plasma to deal with termis, AV11 gets a bit better (against S7 plasma rather than all the S8 missiles flying around). Alternatively, people could pick-up lascannons again, in which case PEs stay tucked away safely in their foam coffins... but I would love to see them getting 3 hull points and still being able to receive cover while advancing from behind a rhino.

Dervos wrote:

I don't know... taking only 2 troop choices in a game over 2,000 points seems excessively risky. I think 4 troop choices for such a large game is a solid option. Besides it's not like were the only army with this problem. Although other armies do have other choices.

Two and four aren't the only options; three is the right number for 2,000 points. Take four and one must drop a useful unit.

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Wow! I really loved your Rhinos. Your Jacobus, Seraphim, and especially your Repentia look stellar. I can't say I cared for your St. Celestine though.

Sorry if this is a little off-topic, but anyone know when Sisters will be getting a new, full codex (beyond the WD thing)?

Probably not for a couple years.

Silly questions: Now that DCA + Crusaders Power Weapons are AP3 (outside of a new FAQ giving access to Power Axes, and then being reduced to I1), do you guys think that the Battle Conclave will have a diminished role?

Along those same lines, do you see Eviscerators as having a greater role to play in 6th, and by extension Repentia? Also, I think that this is the first time I'm glad we have regular access to Eviscerators on just about every Sister Superior.

Finally, with the change to Rage, the addition of Hull Points, Shield of Faith, and the possibility of a 12" assault range, do any of you see Penitent Engines getting some more use in 6th?


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PewPewPewing wrote:Sorry if this is a little off-topic, but anyone know when Sisters will be getting a new, full codex (beyond the WD thing)?

When Hell freezes over? I don't see a proper SoB codex for years to come I'm afraid.

AP3 is still alright, though I expect there would probably be a fair amount of Terminators to try and take advantage of that change. I don't think they'll diminish much, just slightly change use.

I'm hoping there is something I am missing in the rumours, because currently it looks like PE are, if anything, worse off. Hull points as the rumors have them are just another way to die, auto-wrecking you after a set number of glances (looks like 3 for walkers). In vehicles that is mitigated by increased speed and the fact that glances can't stop them firing, but for a close combat walker it just looks to make things deadlier. Open topped is as dangerous as before, and squadrons are reported to work the same.

On the plus side, you can keep them in cover easier with rage not controlling their movement. Extra hits is nice. And trying to spam 18 of them in high point games could be a hilarious, if questionable tactic.

Spidey0804 wrote:Hey guys I just uploaded some new pics to my facebook Daughters of the Emperor

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Would love to here what you have to say.

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PE have never been good though, so no big surprise there.


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The only way they'd be good is if they ignored glances (i.e. only pens took off hull points).

The change to rage (rumored) would help alleviate a bit problem though, i.e. kiting.

Also squadrons are said to work differently now in how you damage them.

My PE just crushed things my first dozen or so games. Then people figured them out, and now they die. I've never had a problem with them being kited though... Just being slow and easy to kill. Even if they get worse, I'm probably still willing to pay the "awesome model tax" to field a few of them... But Repentia have generally done more than PE for me, for a fraction of the points I spend on engines in my list. PE really only shine against assault lists that want to come to you fast and hard.

I've just been waiting for them to become plastic myself. Saw one being built and decided even though the model is cool with its ability to be kited and other apparent weaknesses it isn't really worth the hassle.