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 Thokt wrote:
Distortion Weapon = D-Weapon

Maybe something was lost in translation there, because if so, Wraithguard are going to be out of control.

The WD is talking about the Wraithknight, which has Heavy Wraithcannons, while the Wraithguard have Wraithcannons.

It could be that all distort weapons become D (Nottingham has a pretty serious drug problem after all), but it's also very likely that strength D becomes the differentiating factor for the biggest distort weapon.

If every windrider gets a scatter laser at 27 ppm I'll be speechless. Especially since they are still troops and remain otherwise unchanged.

A 270 point Obsec unit that can move 48" a turn OR shoot 40 s6 shots at 36"..... That could be balanced.....

Skitarri will take em on right? right?

 Red Corsair wrote:

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Laser lock is gone.

That remedies serpent shields some already.

I hope they don't touch serpent shields now if laser lock is actually gone. Laser lock is what made it good in the first place.

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
A d weapon on a normal infantry unit sounds a little too strong

But yea, all we've seen so far is buffs, which is strange, cause Eldar certainly didnt need to get better

Yay, thanks GW for making me not want to play Eldar ever again. I'll take the 6th edition codex, please.

That Autarch makes me want to start an Eldar army. Really nice model. We already have an Eldar army in the house but they're Ulthwé so an autarch doesn't really seem appropriate. Always liked Biel-tan... hmm... curses

 Tyranid Horde wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Laser lock is gone.

That remedies serpent shields some already.

I hope they don't touch serpent shields now if laser lock is actually gone. Laser lock is what made it good in the first place.

No, D6+1 S7 Ignores Cover at 60" range is what made them great. Combining with laser lock just made them stupidly broken (instead of just sort of broken).

 Tyranid Horde wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Laser lock is gone.

That remedies serpent shields some already.

I hope they don't touch serpent shields now if laser lock is actually gone. Laser lock is what made it good in the first place.

It's still broken, no dedicated troop carrier has a right to boast as much defense/offense as the WS. Take away Ignores cover and I think it will be fine.

 Thokt wrote:
Distortion Weapon = D-Weapon

Maybe something was lost in translation there, because if so, Wraithguard are going to be out of control.

Leak guy wrote:Distorsion wepon = D-weapon.

CC weapon of the wraithknight is D weapon.

I think this line was meant to clarify that the wraithcannons are "D-weapons" (as in Distort-weapons), but the ghostglaive is a "D weapon" (as in a Destroyer weapon).

I'll be legitimately upset if the Wraith Knight gets at initiative Strength D.

For whatever reason the Bloodthirster isn't allowed to have at Initiative Strength D because otherwise all his attacks on a multi would high toughness model would be too much. Oh... kind of like the Wraith Knight.

I am more concerned with the bikes. WK is rumored gargantuan, bloodthrister isn't. makes perfect sense to me.

Now, a 27 point space marine that can JSJ/boost 48"/shoot 4 s6 shots out to 36" WITH OBsec? THAT is insane. Even if WS remained unchanged, why on earth would you take one over 10 of those at a mere 270pts?

Edit: It MUST be 1 in 3, otherwise thank god necrons are so durable because they will be the only ones left to stand up to this ha ha.

Yeah, i am doubting that every single bike can take a scatter laser. unless scatter lasers are getting nerfed into oblivion.

If I need to field 3 Guardian squads to give Battle Focus to my swordwind strike force, I'm going to be very let down.

Awesome, new models. Definitely they go on my to buy list.

Gargantuan Wraithknight with D weapons? Im listening...

Heh. Exactly what I thought.

New Jetbike kit with a weapon they've not had before.

The pseudo rendi g is to could termies the fact that the eldar as squishy, and short ranged. Guardians have the survivability of conscripts, at over 4x the cost. Terminators DO NOT fear guardians! 10 guardians (if none die on the way in) fire 20 shots, maybe 14 hit, 7 wound, one rends. So maybe (MAYBE) on extra terminator dies to their shooting.

Now, look at the math for conscripts at the same point total (I believe they are 3 ppm)
At 12", you have 60 shots, 20 hits, 6 wounds. One dead terminator. So the Eldar will kill 2/3 more of a terminator, (maybe) less if they are in cover or have a storm shield.

I wouldn't exactly call that fear inducing...

I expected laser lock gone and a point increase on knights, moving them to lords and buffing them works, its just a better version of the imp knight.

The king is dead, long live the king.

I got the white dwarf today. Codex $58, Cards, Autarch with wings, Farseer on bike can make into Warlock $33, Bike Squad $41 American. Rules for bike in WD - same points cost but can take a warlock for 50 points so same cost as last codex - 5 points spear - same rules, ALL BIKES can take Shuriken Cannons or Scatter LAsers for 10 pts each. Scatter laser S6 AP6 4 shot NO LASER LOCK NOTED so looks like gone. Shuriken weapons have bladestorm same rule as last. Bike still 3up save, have battle focus still.
Warlock level 1 can take warlock powers or Sanctic powers ( I really hope that Maelific is gone for Eldar - they should not be summoning daemons)

Detachments are cool - all have vypers as obligatory tithe, Command 0-3 Eldrad, Illic, Phoenix lords, avatar, or 2 farseers and warlock council, Farseer obligatory HQ for main part of detachment
Bike one, one with farseer and warlock council
Extras - rangers, Wraithknight / lord / or fighter, 3 crimson hunters, 3 dire avenger units, wraith warhost - spiritseer, 3 wraith - guard/CC, wraithlord, wraithknight, others - Falcon/Prism/web hovercraft, 3 aspects choice of any


There is an article where a Wraithknight is pitted against a bunch of stuff - no rules posted but there are hints in the article - it is now a Gargantuan creature, the d-cannons are destroyer now, the sword is a Dweapon and must be I1 since it swings on the new Bloodthirster with D-weapon at the same time to kill it. That is a game changer to wraithknights.
Made a video will post it once had time to upload it on my you tube page. Cheers guys.

what is next week hint !?

Wow, so every one should pucker their balloon knots for scat spam bikes!

 Eiluj The Farseer wrote:
I got the white dwarf today. Codex $58, Cards, Autarch with wings, Farseer on bike can make into Warlock $33, Bike Squad $41 American. Rules for bike in WD - same points cost but can take a warlock for 50 points so same cost as last codex - 5 points spear - same rules, ALL BIKES can take Shuriken Cannons or Scatter LAsers for 10 pts each. Scatter laser S6 AP6 4 shot NO LASER LOCK NOTED so looks like gone. Shuriken weapons have bladestorm same rule as last. Bike still 3up save, have battle focus still.
Warlock level 1 can take warlock powers or Sanctic powers ( I really hope that Maelific is gone for Eldar - they should not be summoning daemons)

Detachments are cool - all have vypers as obligatory tithe, Command 0-3 Eldrad, Illic, Phoenix lords, avatar, or 2 farseers and warlock council, Farseer obligatory HQ for main part of detachment
Bike one, one with farseer and warlock council
Extras - rangers, Wraithknight / lord / or fighter, 3 crimson hunters, 3 dire avenger units, wraith warhost - spiritseer, 3 wraith - guard/CC, wraithlord, wraithknight, others - Falcon/Prism/web hovercraft, 3 aspects choice of any


There is an article where a Wraithknight is pitted against a bunch of stuff - no rules posted but there are hints in the article - it is now a Gargantuan creature, the d-cannons are destroyer now, the sword is a Dweapon and must be I1 since it swings on the new Bloodthirster with D-weapon at the same time to kill it. That is a game changer to wraithknights.
Made a video will post it once had time to upload it on my you tube page. Cheers guys.

And what is your youtube channel called?

Well I guess making Scatter Lasers AP 6 instead of AP - is a slight buff?

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
Well I guess making Scatter Lasers AP 6 instead of AP - is a slight buff?

Because F greentide

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
Well I guess making Scatter Lasers AP 6 instead of AP - is a slight buff?

They have always been AP 6, the shield was AP -

Edit: Maybe not always, but for 6th they have been AP 6

Man 270 for either 40 s6 36" range shots or 30 s6 rending shots to 24".... Both so gross. Guide will make that unit impossible to play against. I guess that solves FMC spam and wraiths....

Drop pods will hurt it, but I don't see them doing enough damage per point based on pod unit costs.

 Eiluj The Farseer wrote:
ALL BIKES can take Shuriken Cannons or Scatter LAsers for 10 pts each. Scatter laser S6 AP6 4 shot NO LASER LOCK NOTED so looks like gone. Shuriken weapons have bladestorm same rule as last. Bike still 3up save, have battle focus still.

So the days of Fire Warriors with the best troop gun are gone. 4 shots S6 is enough to spam bikes!
Battle Focus on a unit that cannot Run... let's see if they'll change that to include turbo-boost.

 Eiluj The Farseer wrote:
There is an article where a Wraithknight is pitted against a bunch of stuff - no rules posted but there are hints in the article - it is now a Gargantuan creature, the d-cannons are destroyer now, the sword is a Dweapon and must be I1 since it swings on the new Bloodthirster with D-weapon at the same time to kill it. That is a game changer to wraithknights.

I1 melee S: D is ok.

 Red Corsair wrote:
I am more concerned with the bikes. WK is rumored gargantuan, bloodthrister isn't. makes perfect sense to me.

Now, a 27 point space marine that can JSJ/boost 48"/shoot 4 s6 shots out to 36" WITH OBsec? THAT is insane. Even if WS remained unchanged, why on earth would you take one over 10 of those at a mere 270pts?

Edit: It MUST be 1 in 3, otherwise thank god necrons are so durable because they will be the only ones left to stand up to this ha ha.

Bikes can't JSJ because bikes can't use Battle Focus.

I hope guide is WC2

If vypers are required for detachments, I want to see what they did to their fluff. They have always been a fast support unit, nothing close to a core part of an eldar army. The only craftworld that might require them is Saim-Hann. Hopefully there is more to this.

Not that it bothers me, I like the things.

Mymearan wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
I am more concerned with the bikes. WK is rumored gargantuan, bloodthrister isn't. makes perfect sense to me.

Now, a 27 point space marine that can JSJ/boost 48"/shoot 4 s6 shots out to 36" WITH OBsec? THAT is insane. Even if WS remained unchanged, why on earth would you take one over 10 of those at a mere 270pts?

Edit: It MUST be 1 in 3, otherwise thank god necrons are so durable because they will be the only ones left to stand up to this ha ha.

Bikes can't JSJ because bikes can't use Battle Focus.

Actually they can since all eldar class jet bikes get an assault phase 2d6 jump move.... Know your facts bud.