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2023/12/01 00:24:52
Subject: Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga - Official Trailer
Let's see if this can overcome the general malaise that the film industry seems to be going through:
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2023/12/01 01:14:04
Subject: Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga - Official Trailer
CGI looked bad right out of the gate. Everything else looked pretty neat.
I’ve watched Fury Road more times than any other movie in adult life I think, so more of that world is welcome. I’ll give it a shot!
Also I feel like Anna Taylor-Joy is pretty consistently in projects that I enjoy.
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"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
2023/12/01 04:13:32
Subject: Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga - Official Trailer
Obvious CGI aside, my lack of faith with this film is entirely narrative based.
The trailer speaks about the fact that this is the saga of Furiosa's journey to return home.
'Cept we've seen that. It's the inciting incident of Fury Road*, where she takes a sudden 90 degree turn without telling anyone, leading to a massive chase where she eventually makes it home, finds that it's no longer as green as it once was, and then takes the fight to Immortan Joe, kills him, and takes over his fortress as the new leader.
So I now hope that the trailer is very, very wrong, because if the movie is about her trying to get home then we know she fails because we know when and how she (technically) succeeds. After all, we've already seen that happen!
It'd be a bit like doing a movie about Garven Dreis, aka Red Leader from A New Hope, and making the trailer about will he or won't he blow up the Death Star, and acting like we don't already know that he fails and then dies.
This is the inherent issue with prequels. You can't make the central plot and quest be something that we've already seen be resolved in a different film.
*Yes I know the film starts with Max being captured, but Max isn't really the main character of that movie, more someone who's just along for the ride.
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How does the timeline even work? Max was a young cop as civilization was collapsing, so if this movie is 45 years after that, and you add 20 years to get to Fury Road, Max should have been about 90 in Fury Road.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
2023/12/01 11:52:06
Subject: Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga - Official Trailer
Max is more of a legendary figure. From Mad Max 2 onward for certain, the stories are retrospectives. Tales told by people remembering their encounter with The Road Warrior.
It’s by no means certain we’re following the same Max in 2, 3 or 4. It could be another Road Warrior, who has heard of the legendary Max Rockastansky, and decided to use that name for their own ends.
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Historically we knew it was the same Max because of his looks and the car he drove from the first film.
But yes the timeline from the 1st to 2nd film is a bit wonky in terms of how the 2nd film feels way way more than a few years of fall of civilization. It feels more like its been a generation or two at the very least.
Who knows, perhaps Max was cursed with some nuclear fallout or something that meant he stopped aging normally (this was well in the era when such things were rife in sci-fi). And thus he keeps going, wandering the wasteland that is the future. Roaming here and there helping people whilst just trying to survive and not really understanding what he is.
Or its different Road Warriors fighting over generations; who share a similar style and theme and sometimes a car that looks very similar.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: The V8 gets trashed in 2, 3 and 4, so can’t be the same car, just the same model.
Or fixed
Dunno, it always looks pretty undefethable!
Also, if there’s one thing we can say about George Miller? He doesn’t seem rushed to make new Mad Max content, so we have at least the impression he only does one when he’s happy it’s a tale worth telling.
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Well with Fury road he tried for a long time to get it made and just kept adding to the storyboard in the meantime. Apparently it was an insane number of images by the end.
2023/12/01 15:19:09
Subject: Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga - Official Trailer
H.B.M.C. wrote: Obvious CGI aside, my lack of faith with this film is entirely narrative based.
The trailer speaks about the fact that this is the saga of Furiosa's journey to return home.
'Cept we've seen that. It's the inciting incident of Fury Road*, where she takes a sudden 90 degree turn without telling anyone, leading to a massive chase where she eventually makes it home, finds that it's no longer as green as it once was, and then takes the fight to Immortan Joe, kills him, and takes over his fortress as the new leader.
So I now hope that the trailer is very, very wrong, because if the movie is about her trying to get home then we know she fails because we know when and how she (technically) succeeds. After all, we've already seen that happen!
It'd be a bit like doing a movie about Garven Dreis, aka Red Leader from A New Hope, and making the trailer about will he or won't he blow up the Death Star, and acting like we don't already know that he fails and then dies.
This is the inherent issue with prequels. You can't make the central plot and quest be something that we've already seen be resolved in a different film.
*Yes I know the film starts with Max being captured, but Max isn't really the main character of that movie, more someone who's just along for the ride.
This film shouldn't be about the story of her getting home; its basically her whole back story. So her capture, her rise through the ranks of Immortal Joe's army and such. Ergo establishing her past and who she was before we hit Fury Road. In theory its got a lot of time to play with and should work out great as a filling in show for her and fleshing out her character.
As for the poor VFX, I'm not sure, but I would imagine the Hollywood strikes had some impact on them getting the trailer done in order to release it for CCXP this weekend. If the date on Wikipedia is correct, the film doesn't release until late May 2024 so there's plenty of time to tweak the VFX.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2023/12/01 17:28:42
Subject: Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga - Official Trailer
Fury Road was the greatest piece of art ever created, so I'm cautiously optimistic.
Slightly concerned that it's using the Mad Max name to sell a story about a female protagonist which Max presumably (hopefully!) isn't even going to feature in.
Hopefully that's just because the marketing department lacks the imagination to come up with any better way of selling it.
2023/12/01 17:39:55
Subject: Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga - Official Trailer
Lord Damocles wrote: Fury Road was the greatest piece of art ever created, so I'm cautiously optimistic.
Slightly concerned that it's using the Mad Max name to sell a story about a female protagonist which Max presumably (hopefully!) isn't even going to feature in.
Hopefully that's just because the marketing department lacks the imagination to come up with any better way of selling it.
I mean that and Mad Max is basically the world setting name in itself. It doesn't have a unique world, region, country nor anything to really identify itself with. You call it "Adventures in the Wasteland" and its just another post apoc film. You call it a "Mad Max Saga" and suddenly we all know what post-apoc world it is; what kind of characters and features we'll see and what franchise it links into. Even if Max himself doesn't appear. Interesting note in Fury Road we see several scenes from Max's internal memories of a girl who doesn't feature at all in the film otherwise nor appears in MM 1-3. So that might be something they explore as an historical link that Max and Furiosa are unaware of which appears in this film (that doesn't mean Furiosa has to be the girl, just that it ends up being some kind of related link)
Lord Damocles wrote: Slightly concerned that it's using the Mad Max name to sell a story about a female protagonist which Max presumably (hopefully!) isn't even going to feature in.
Hopefully that's just because the marketing department lacks the imagination to come up with any better way of selling it.
Are you talking about Fury Road? Because that was the greatest piece of art ever created. I'm cautiously optimistic.
2023/12/01 18:00:04
Subject: Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga - Official Trailer
Lord Damocles wrote: Slightly concerned that it's using the Mad Max name to sell a story about a female protagonist which Max presumably (hopefully!) isn't even going to feature in.
Hopefully that's just because the marketing department lacks the imagination to come up with any better way of selling it.
Are you talking about Fury Road? Because that was the greatest piece of art ever created. I'm cautiously optimistic.
Hence why I'm cautiously optimistic, and not just expecting another Dial of Destiny.
2023/12/01 18:43:18
Subject: Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga - Official Trailer
Ahtman wrote: How does the timeline even work? Max was a young cop as civilization was collapsing, so if this movie is 45 years after that, and you add 20 years to get to Fury Road, Max should have been about 90 in Fury Road.
I think the timeline works if you assume that Australians use dog years to calculate time.
1 year for rest of world is 7 in "dog years/Aussie Time". 45 years Aussie time is 6.42 years for rest of world, putting the events of Fury Road at roughly around 9+ years after the fall. If Mad Max was 25(Real world time) as a young cop when civilization fell, he was 34 during Fury Road. Tom Hardy who played him was 38 at time of movie release, and probably cast to play Mad Max a few years before that so the times check out in my rough and quick calculations.
But then the question becomes how'd it get so very bad, so fast in Australia?
To answer that question, you have to look at the history of Australia and how it was founded by the British Empire as a prison colony. They (Aussies) just fell back to what they know and what felt natural to them the second that they were given the opportunity to give up all pretense of a cohesive, modern and law abiding civilization.
I'm sorry. I work at a motorcycle shop and its cold and rainy and there isn't gak going on and I'm bored.
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"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
2023/12/01 19:05:25
Subject: Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga - Official Trailer
Don't forget in the 1st film its clearly identified that Biker gangs are ruling the backroads and that violent crime and corruption are rife.
It's part of the core plot that's kind of almost overlooked because we also see a lot of civilized areas that are pretty peaceful. However the very start of the setting is that things are already going off the rails - the nuclear events just kick everything over the edge
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1 year for rest of world is 7 in "dog years/Aussie Time". 45 years Aussie time is 6.42 years for rest of world, putting the events of Fury Road at roughly around 9+ years after the fall. If Mad Max was 25(Real world time) as a young cop when civilization fell, he was 34 during Fury Road. Tom Hardy who played him was 38 at time of movie release, and probably cast to play Mad Max a few years before that so the times check out in my rough and quick calculations.
I do think Max isn't one man, but many where the legends have merged together.
