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gorgon wrote:I greatly prefer NFL football to major college football. College football has far too many Bambi vs. Godzilla moments. And that's *exactly* the way college football likes it -- powerhouse programs and sacrificial lambs.


All this even as they yammer on about their not-for-profit educational missions and ivy-covered halls. At least the NFL is actually interested in a competitive product, and keeps its greedy, money-grubbing ways above-board as a legitimate business. .

Yeah that's pretty much how I feel about college football as well, some times a lot of teams should just not even bother travelling to games and save face by not being blown out by Bama or some other SEC team

Pacific wrote:
Will be getting a season ticket for the UK games in 2015 as soon as they go on sale, would love to see a game on US soil as well although will have to do some planning for that one!

me and a couple of mates are talking about going to one of the games next year, at the moment top of the list is Jets Dolphins as it's a divisional game and another friend is travelling over from California to watch it as well

 Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:
Yeah that's pretty much how I feel about college football as well, some times a lot of teams should just not even bother travelling to games and save face by not being blown out by Bama or some other SEC team

Yeah, but if you don't take your huge paycheck to be a practice game for the big team then how are you going to get your chance at something like the greatest upset in football history?

Was that really an upset though? Michigan went on to lose a bunch of games that year to very subpar teams.

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 Alfndrate wrote:
I've never been to an NFL game... I've been to more NHL games than I have NFL... I just started watching hockey two years ago... :-\

Jackets or Pens?

He's Senators fan.

Indeed I am, BUT both of the NHL games were Jackets vs the Sens (and the Sens won, so uh... suck it CBJ!)

Edit: So, on the topic of the footballs... Browns v. Texans this weekend. I'm pretty concerned about JJ Watt... But I'm not sure how the Texans will play up here in Cleveland (we just got our first snows today) and so I'm hoping that the Brady Backup Bowl will turn out to go in Cleveland's favor.

dereksatkinson wrote:


I would avoid the PacNW simply because there really isn't any sort of sight seeing to do. Plus the weather is crappy and is one of the reasons why they have the highest suicide rate in the US. I lived up there for 8 years and wouldn't recommend putting it anywhere near the top of the list for someone to visit if they were coming to the states for the 1st time.

There's actually a TON to do/see, if you're so inclined. And really, while the weather is bad, it's not as bad as some people make out, I currently live here.


And about a million times better than ANYTHING you could offer from Ohio, or certain parts of Texas, California or even Chicago.

 Alfndrate wrote:

Edit: So, on the topic of the footballs... Browns v. Texans this weekend. I'm pretty concerned about JJ Watt... But I'm not sure how the Texans will play up here in Cleveland (we just got our first snows today) and so I'm hoping that the Brady Backup Bowl will turn out to go in Cleveland's favor.

IDK, Looking more at Philly in GB. Packers in the Tundra? Always tough.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
There's actually a TON to do/see, if you're so inclined. And really, while the weather is bad, it's not as bad as some people make out, I currently live here.


And about a million times better than ANYTHING you could offer from Ohio, or certain parts of Texas, California or even Chicago.

$ says otherwise.

Texas doesn't have ski resorts and still manages to more than triple the size of the state of Washington's revenue(by businesses, not tax). California's tourism is 13 times as large. Illinois is 3 times larger than Washington's. And as much as Ohio sucks, it's still tied with Washington state.

I'm not saying Washington state doesn't have anything to offer, but to suggest it has more to offer tourists is just plain wrong. Atlanta, GA generates more revenue in their downtown annually than the entire state of Washington does. And while it might be fun for people to see the 1st starbucks in Seattle, they would probably enjoy disneyland a little more.


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 helgrenze wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:

Edit: So, on the topic of the footballs... Browns v. Texans this weekend. I'm pretty concerned about JJ Watt... But I'm not sure how the Texans will play up here in Cleveland (we just got our first snows today) and so I'm hoping that the Brady Backup Bowl will turn out to go in Cleveland's favor.

IDK, Looking more at Philly in GB. Packers in the Tundra? Always tough.

Packers Eagles will be a good game. We might actually see if Sanchez can play QB this week.

dereksatkinson wrote:

Texas doesn't have ski resorts and still manages to more than triple the size of the state of Washington's revenue(by businesses, not tax). California's tourism is 13 times as large. Illinois is 3 times larger than Washington's. And as much as Ohio sucks, it's still tied with Washington state.

I'm not saying Washington state doesn't have anything to offer, but to suggest it has more to offer tourists is just plain wrong. Atlanta, GA generates more revenue in their downtown annually than the entire state of Washington does. And while it might be fun for people to see the 1st starbucks in Seattle, they would probably enjoy disneyland a little more.

Lol, if Ohio is so awesome why have so many people gone into SPACE to get away from it? Why has the Steinbrenner family left, and basically never gone back??


Yeah, I'm being facetious here One thing we in Washington have that none of your other states have: legal weed. Sure you could go to Colorado for that too, but who really wants to see Peyton Manning, or be so high above sea level that there's no air to breathe in the first place

All this Ohio hate :(

We gave you 8 presidents and this is how you return the favor, by gakking in our backyards?! This will not stand.

 Alfndrate wrote:
All this Ohio hate :(

We gave you 8 presidents and this is how you return the favor, by gakking in our backyards?! This will not stand.

Lol, of those 8, how many moved back to Ohio once they were done? It's all in good fun.

Ohio contains 2 of my favorite things. Cedar point and the pro football hall of fame. Cedar point is the best roller coaster park in the country and vies for world honors constantly. Outside of those 2 things it's pretty bleak.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:
All this Ohio hate :(

We gave you 8 presidents and this is how you return the favor, by gakking in our backyards?! This will not stand.

Lol, of those 8, how many moved back to Ohio once they were done? It's all in good fun.

They all haunt the state, does that count?

Stupid 8:30 games. It's way to long to wait.

Also ensis I now hate nfl network, they came up with a "breaking news" segment with a marshawn lynch update only to say he's playing like everyone expected him too. Got my hopes up so bad ;p

Good luck this week Dakka NFL Leagues!

This week is gone be pretty crazy in the FFL. We have 8 teams within 2 games of each other. A lot is going to change over the next week or 2 most likely.

Chancetragedy wrote:
This week is gone be pretty crazy in the FFL. We have 8 teams within 2 games of each other. A lot is going to change over the next week or 2 most likely.

All that matters is the play offs!

Julius Thomas and Emanuel sanders out for the Broncos. Sanders got WRECKED hopefully not a concussion but probably is.


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I love the Rams so much right now. If they can just ice the game here with a nice 6 minute drive that would be spectacular.

Chancetragedy wrote:

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I love the Rams so much right now. If they can just ice the game here with a nice 6 minute drive that would be spectacular.

How in Elvis' Bunghole™ did my Rammies beat Manning's Broncos?

I mean...

I'm speechless...

Football... huh, guys?

When you beat up mannings receivers he is garbage. It's not a new trend either. The Rams punched him in the mouth and he did what he always does, crumple to the ground like a baby. He is literally the worst "greatest" qb I've ever seen play.

Gakked the bed! Gakked the bed! Gakked the bed!

Now I get to watch as ensis closes in on me and eventually beats me. BOOOOO.

Chancetragedy wrote:
Now I get to watch as ensis closes in on me and eventually beats me. BOOOOO.

Although we seem to be going for "lowest combined score in a single game"

Yo seriously. This was such a depressing day to follow our matchup haha. Quite a few injuries and let downs.

How has this news not made the thread yet?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/federal-drug-agents-launch-surprise-inspections-of-nfl-teams-following-games/2014/11/16/5545c84e-6da5-11e4-8808-afaa1e3a33ef_story.html

Looks like the DEA is going to take away Seattle's real 12th man.

dereksatkinson wrote:

Looks like the DEA is going to take away Seattle's real 12th man.

Nah, just because the Green is legal in the state of Washington, doesn't mean the players are allowed to flaunt the League's "Substance Abuse Policy" although they should be able to

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

dereksatkinson wrote:

Looks like the DEA is going to take away Seattle's real 12th man.

Nah, just because the Green is legal in the state of Washington, doesn't mean the players are allowed to flaunt the League's "Substance Abuse Policy" although they should be able to

This is about organized PED use, not pot. Given Pete Carrol's history and the ridiculous number of PED suspensions given to the Seahawks over the past few years, i'd be very concerned if I was a Seattle fan.

The commissioner is already under a lot of heat for Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson. Don't think for a second he wont be willing to make an example out of the 49ers and Seahawks if the DEA's investigation shows those teams are dirty.

dereksatkinson wrote:

This is about organized PED use, not pot. Given Pete Carrol's history and the ridiculous number of PED suspensions given to the Seahawks over the past few years, i'd be very concerned if I was a Seattle fan.

The commissioner is already under a lot of heat for Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson. Don't think for a second he wont be willing to make an example out of the 49ers and Seahawks if the DEA's investigation shows those teams are dirty.

Are Skittles a PED now?? If so, we're fethed

dereksatkinson wrote:

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

dereksatkinson wrote:

Looks like the DEA is going to take away Seattle's real 12th man.

Nah, just because the Green is legal in the state of Washington, doesn't mean the players are allowed to flaunt the League's "Substance Abuse Policy" although they should be able to

This is about organized PED use, not pot. Given Pete Carrol's history and the ridiculous number of PED suspensions given to the Seahawks over the past few years, i'd be very concerned if I was a Seattle fan.

The commissioner is already under a lot of heat for Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson. Don't think for a second he wont be willing to make an example out of the 49ers and Seahawks if the DEA's investigation shows those teams are dirty.

I thought the DEA raids were due to the lawsuit by ex players about the misuse/dispensing of scheduled drugs. More in line with pain killers and things like that.


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Woooo that was close ensis!!!!!!! Less than a point and a half!

Chancetragedy wrote:

I thought the DEA raids were due to the lawsuit by ex players about the misuse/dispensing of scheduled drugs. More in line with pain killers and things like that.

Adderall is a prescription drug. This isn't about handing out anti-inflammatory meds or strictly pain meds. These teams are practically handing out speed to players in the locker room.

Since this is a NFL thread, can we talk about the 220,000 tons of snow that needs to be cleared out of Ralph Wilson for Sundays game?