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Oh I probably won't be collecting a full GSCult army guys, I just meant in a general sense - the more quality modern human-sized kits GW release, the worse the old Guard plastics look by comparison.

These are really sweet kits. Can't wait to see the truck.

 Ascalam wrote:
Very old school metal harlies had web pistols, and I think there was a Necromunda granger with a Webber.

No Necro mini had a webber, sadly.

But this kinda resolves that!

Those dice look sweet. I will be getting a set.

The 1991 IG sprue had them? I cannot check the catalogues atm, but this looks close



Source: http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/index.php/Necromunda_First_Releases_(Confrontation)_-_Collectors_Guide

 Fango wrote:
1000 copies of the LE edition worldwide, they'll be sold out before they even go up on the US webstore...

Well...I'm hoping they have a quantity per region.

 Yodhrin wrote:
Decent shotguns, web-weapons, and enough awesome heads to keep me in INQ28 ideas for months - and we've not even seen the new vehicle yet. The Metamorphs aren't really my bag, but they'll also prove a good source of bitz. I'm actually going to have to restrain myself from overspending on them - kudos, GW, kudos.

Honestly, literally the only bad thing about this release is how pathetic these amazing Hybrids will make the roly-poly midget-man Cadian models look by comparison. Looking at that iPad preview pic with the Chimera and Brood Brother colour guide art on it and imagining how amazing a 2nd Ed-style Cadian/Tanith dual kit would be in the scale and quality of these...do it GW, dooo iiiiiiiit.

one box of each should keep you busy for a good while...

about those Cadians...
to be fair, they sucked the moment they where released, just like the plastic Catachans
they tried to replace the awesome metal Perry Guard models...
that was always going to be a losing proposition...
the good thing is, the Cadian and Catachan command boxes are on a slighter scale, a great source of bits and bodies, and are cheaper than newer boxes, but still look good...

the new Hybrids call back to the original G.C. metals in a way that the basic plastic Guard didn't, and it shows...
thank all the gods we didn't get kits as sorry as the plastic basic Guard boxes, and we got new ideas that rock pretty hard

cheers
jah

Dare I say it? Will the dice actually match the pics this time?

Warhams-77 wrote:
The 1991 IG sprue had them? I cannot check the catalogues atm, but this looks close



Source: http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/index.php/Necromunda_First_Releases_(Confrontation)_-_Collectors_Guide

those are hand flamers, but that sprue was pretty cool, as were all the Confrontation minis...
i have the Noble and Nomad Lords still waiting on some love, all these years later...
i think the Nomad Lord was my first mini in platform shoes

cheers
jah

Davor wrote:
Dare I say it? Will the dice actually match the pics this time?

Oh that is high-larious....because of the Tyranid dice right?
Good thing that GW never released another set of dice since then otherwise it would not be nearly as funny...

Thanks, Jah, I wasn't sure

 jah-joshua wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
Decent shotguns, web-weapons, and enough awesome heads to keep me in INQ28 ideas for months - and we've not even seen the new vehicle yet. The Metamorphs aren't really my bag, but they'll also prove a good source of bitz. I'm actually going to have to restrain myself from overspending on them - kudos, GW, kudos.

Honestly, literally the only bad thing about this release is how pathetic these amazing Hybrids will make the roly-poly midget-man Cadian models look by comparison. Looking at that iPad preview pic with the Chimera and Brood Brother colour guide art on it and imagining how amazing a 2nd Ed-style Cadian/Tanith dual kit would be in the scale and quality of these...do it GW, dooo iiiiiiiit.

one box of each should keep you busy for a good while...

about those Cadians...
to be fair, they sucked the moment they where released, just like the plastic Catachans
they tried to replace the awesome metal Perry Guard models...
that was always going to be a losing proposition...
the good thing is, the Cadian and Catachan command boxes are on a slighter scale, a great source of bits and bodies, and are cheaper than newer boxes, but still look good...

the new Hybrids call back to the original G.C. metals in a way that the basic plastic Guard didn't, and it shows...
thank all the gods we didn't get kits as sorry as the plastic basic Guard boxes, and we got new ideas that rock pretty hard

cheers
jah

Sorry.... I know this is off topic but I saw this and just no.

The old metal catachan and cadian models were extremely unpopular at the time. I remember going to WHW when the plastic catachans were released and everyone seemed to love them. When the Cadians were released everyone was extremely happy because the ugly metal cadian were no longer required and people didn't like being pressured into getting a catachan army if they simply wanted to afford guard.

I think you need to take those rose tinted glasses, the original plastic guard sprues, while not aging well, were a godsend when they arrived.

Anyway back onto conversions.... well if you have a modelling knife, files, liquid and normal green stuff, I doubt there will be any issues. I'm already planning on getting some regular genestealers, cultists and jungle fighters (maybe some cadians) to help augment my GSC via conversions. I think modified cultists and catachans would suit broodkin much better. They need to seem more like civies or milita than a military force.


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Also... am I the only one worried that we still can't get standalone sprues from Overkill?

So will I still need to get overkill to get Aberrants and my HQ's?

 Baldeagle91 wrote:

Also... am I the only one worried that we still can't get standalone sprues from Overkill?

So will I still need to get overkill to get Aberrants and my HQ's?

Just chill for now. This is only the first week of releases. We'll see whats coming soon.

Cool, though I kind of wish they'd toned down on the "Genestealer" part. Guys with drills and other industrial type equipment look better when they look more like they've basically taken the thing home from work and into battle, rather than borrowing it off the brethren who did. And I can only imagine how much of a nightmare it was to get those three-to-four-limbed monstrosities into those suits...

@Baldeagle91: there is no need to be rude about it...
i never said they weren't popular, i know i bought a box of each when they came out...
it isn't about wearing rose-tinted glasses, it is about my personal prefered aesthetic...
in my opinion, the plastic guard where not as cool looking as the metal ones they replaced...
that has nothing to do with how much easier, and cheaper, they made collecting a Guard army, or how many cool conversions they facilitated...
it has everything to do with how much better the plastic guys in the Command boxes look in comparison...

i am a huge fan of the modern aesthetic of GW, so there is no need to tell me that i need to take off my rose-tinted glasses...
i am stoked with my Overkill box, and will be stoked to get these new Hybrids, too...
it just happens that some of the older models have aged better than others...

cheers
jah

 Frozen Ocean wrote:
Cool, though I kind of wish they'd toned down on the "Genestealer" part

In the Genestealer Cult army that is full of Genestealer Hybrids?

 jah-joshua wrote:
it has everything to do with how much better the plastic guys in the Command boxes look in comparison...

It's actually quite a stark difference when you compare the plastic Catachan box to the Catachan Command Squad box.

 jah-joshua wrote:
@Baldeagle91: there is no need to be rude about it...
i never said they weren't popular, i know i bought a box of each when they came out...
it isn't about wearing rose-tinted glasses, it is about my personal prefered aesthetic...
in my opinion, the plastic guard where not as cool looking as the metal ones they replaced...
that has nothing to do with how much easier, and cheaper, they made collecting a Guard army, or how many cool conversions they facilitated...
it has everything to do with how much better the plastic guys in the Command boxes look in comparison...

i am a huge fan of the modern aesthetic of GW, so there is no need to tell me that i need to take off my rose-tinted glasses...
i am stoked with my Overkill box, and will be stoked to get these new Hybrids, too...
it just happens that some of the older models have aged better than others...

I gotcho back, bro. The plastic Cadian and Catachan models are hideous, bloated garbage with terrible proportions and awful posing. Was never a fan of the metal Catachans, but compared to the plastic, they're works of art.

I like the plastic Cadians. I like the metal Cadians more, but still...

Before the mod gestapo come goose stepping in can we ixnay the Cadian conversation and move it somewhere else.

 xttz wrote:
According to the digital version of the codex it includes 15 unit datasheets (and 8 formations). We have a good idea for 9 of them:

Patriarch
Magus
Primus
Neophyte
Acolyte
Metamorph
Aberrant
Purestrain
<transport>

Which leaves new 6 units to account for...

They look light in FA and HVY slots

Bikers wouldn't be crazy out of the question. Civilians should be able to get those, and fill a FA slot.

Lemun Russ Battle Tank is classic GSC HVY choice

Blood Brothers would be TROOP choice if they returned.

If Blood Brothers return, I could see a Chimera for them.

 adamsouza wrote:

 xttz wrote:
According to the digital version of the codex it includes 15 unit datasheets (and 8 formations). We have a good idea for 9 of them:

Patriarch
Magus
Primus
Neophyte
Acolyte
Metamorph
Aberrant
Purestrain
<transport>

Which leaves new 6 units to account for...

They look light in FA and HVY slots

Bikers wouldn't be crazy out of the question. Civilians should be able to get those, and fill a FA slot.

Lemun Russ Battle Tank is classic GSC HVY choice

Blood Brothers would be TROOP choice if they returned.

If Blood Brothers return, I could see a Chimera for them.

I'd bet sentinels and chimeras make up some fast attack choices.

 adamsouza wrote:

 xttz wrote:
According to the digital version of the codex it includes 15 unit datasheets (and 8 formations). We have a good idea for 9 of them:

Patriarch
Magus
Primus
Neophyte
Acolyte
Metamorph
Aberrant
Purestrain
<transport>

Which leaves new 6 units to account for...

They look light in FA and HVY slots

Bikers wouldn't be crazy out of the question. Civilians should be able to get those, and fill a FA slot.

Lemun Russ Battle Tank is classic GSC HVY choice

Blood Brothers would be TROOP choice if they returned.

If Blood Brothers return, I could see a Chimera for them.

BROOD brothers.

Not BLOOD brothers.

 MadCowCrazy wrote:

 buddha wrote:
I have an odd quibble with the acolytes. Who makes those clothes? Did they go to an imperial tailor and ask for a 6 limbed clothing item without raising suspicion?

Awww come on dude, don't you know why they are called Jeanstealers? They are obsessed with clothes and especially jeans!

lol.






That's a sexy genestealer though .

That and bike models don't exist for the Guard, so scratch that idea.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
That and bike models don't exist for the Guard, so scratch that idea.

Yeah and the Corvus Blackstar didn't exist for Deathwatch, but look what happened there.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Yeah and the Corvus Blackstar didn't exist for Deathwatch, but look what happened there.

You think Guard bikers are going to be a release during the GSC release Kan?

yeah, it's obvious GSC won't get bikers.

Honestly. I'd be surprised if we get another kit after the truck. Unless GW modus operandi has changed, they don't release new stuff more than a week after the codex is release. Guess we won't get any new characters, theyll probably rebox the three characters of overkill (Weren't they all on the same sprue ?). It's a shame for the aberrants though, but well, still is a great release.

Brood Brothers or Hybrids on bikes would indeed be cool; I've got a squad modded that could use an excuse to finish and paint.

TimHuckelbery wrote:
Brood Brothers or Hybrids on bikes would indeed be cool; I've got a squad modded that could use an excuse to finish and paint.

Let's not get greedy now Tim. Look at what we just got!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Yeah and the Corvus Blackstar didn't exist for Deathwatch, but look what happened there.

You think Guard bikers are going to be a release during the GSC release Kan?

You think bikers period could not have been released during the GSC release?

Your whole argument was predicated upon the idea that "Guard don't have bikers, so why would GSC get bikers?".
Bikers could have fit in here, since as mentioned, civilians should be able to get those and they could have meshed with the concept of civvies rising up.


Anyways...

Models are nice. Disappointing that the first proper Guard sized models with shotguns are Genestealer Cultists though. How many years later and still no Hardened Veterans kit for shotguns outside of FW?