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tneva82 wrote:

I didn't say true scale primaris did i? I said true scale marines which people use them also which is markedly wrong

Why? Why Custodes need to be bigger than marines? I mean they probably want to be, and that's why they wear those ridiculous tall hats, but there is really no reason for them to be bigger than marines.

Eh? Custodes are bigger than Marines. Primaris are also bigger than Marines, and are the same size (well, same height, perhaps, but not quite as bulky" as Custodes. That doesn't make Custodes "undersized".

If you mean that some people are using Primaris models to represent normal Space Marines, that's not really relevant, is it?

Custodes aren't Marines.

Can we move on?

Honestly looking over the Shield Captain I don't see much use for it other than the Paragon Spear part. The iron halo doesn't look great, and would get in the way of any helmet other than the Saggitarum which doesn't have a plume, the head looks a little big, the cape is weirdly thick and the body doesn't look any fancier than the plastic kits can manage.

And really, I'm pretty sure people had already just been treating the paragon spear as a master crafted guardian spear and using the same parts. Or for 30k you could use an axe for now unless those get given rules later.

When will Valdor be made available? Next week?

As per the site: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NL/Constantin-Valdor-Captain-General-of-the-Legio-Custodes-2018

30th of March 2018.

We should bury the horse already and replace it with some of the folks in this thread, they could stand to use one or two good whacks.

Anyway, most recent releases:

Legion Custodes Shield Captain: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NL/Legio-Custodes-Shield-Captain-2018



Legio Custodes Pyrithite Spears: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NL/Legio-Custodes-Pyrithite-Spears-2018



Legio Custodes Adrasite Spears: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NL/Legio-Custodes-Adrasite-Spears-2018

Really hope those spears get 40k rules and aren't overlooked because they're on an existing unit.

Other than Custodian MODOK, I really like the release. I'll def be getting the Adrasite spears at the least.

I'll probably get MODOK too, Im sure I have a spare helmet laying around.

no reason to buy the shield captain IMHO just buy a box of wardens and use that to build your captain

Pre-order is showing Constantin Valdor

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Pre-order is showing Constantin Valdor

Weird. He's not in the "new stuff" page, and the news email makes no mention of him. Looks like someone got confused about what to do?

(And god that model is terrible, thanks for the reminder...)

The problem with the captain is that Hale is better, and with the massive Iron Halo you cant even fit a helmet instead of the doofy head.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Pre-order is showing Constantin Valdor

Nope ... Valdor is in the coming soon section and will be available March 30th, so preorder date will be March 23rd.
No preorders for today yet.

 Peregrine wrote:
(And god that model is terrible, thanks for the reminder...)

Valdor is terrible?

By what damn standard?

 Crazyterran wrote:
The problem with the captain is that Hale is better, and with the massive Iron Halo you cant even fit a helmet instead of the doofy head.

I like the head. It has character.

But you can probably fit in a Sagittarum helmet there. Even a standard one without the plume would probably work.

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Valdor is terrible?

By what damn standard?

The head is awful, the pose is questionable, and the model is covered in way too much clutter. Look at it from a distance and there's no clear silhouette to any of it, all the random clutter blends together into a shapeless blob.

The paintjob on the head obscures the actual detail, the pose is fine and I had no problem distinguishing the form of the model from any reasonable distance (in the photos at least). In fact, I think Valdor is one of the best representations of the Blanche driven design behind the Custodes line.

The real problem the model has is the huge base. I hate those kind of bases, I only use standard and plain ones.

 His Master's Voice wrote:
In fact, I think Valdor is one of the best representations of the Blanche driven design behind the Custodes line.

TBH "Blanche-driven" is the problem. He often has some good ideas buried in a lot of less-good stuff, but the execution is usually questionable at best. The best way to handle his designs is to extract the good and use it as inspiration and a starting point, not to take them literally. Valdor goes way too far in the literal direction and suffers badly for it.

I really Like Valdor. Totally over the top, but in a good way. If I ever make a Custodes army, he will be my Captain-General, not the boring plastic guy.

Valdor isn't coming until the end of the month though, unless they changed his preorder date.

This could be FW taking a breather, or them working behind the scenes on getting the 40k rules for their Custodes stuff done some time soon.

Who knows?

And they've put up some bundles that give you the special spears + a box of Custodes.

I wish I'd got them, as combined they are cheaper than buying just a box'o'Custodes in Oz. If I'd waited a week...

 His Master's Voice wrote:
The paintjob on the head obscures the actual detail, .

They painted in extra forehead?

Wow, anyone got a link to a tutorial?!

If there was a version of Valdor that didn't have all that bs on his shoulders and the draping claw, I might be interested.

Unfortunately he's the first of the character series that I can say I actually hate. There are others that I'm not particularly enamoured with, but this one is actually doubleplus not good.

 Azreal13 wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:
The paintjob on the head obscures the actual detail, .

They painted in extra forehead?

Wow, anyone got a link to a tutorial?!

I have actually seen versions of him painted more typically on the Legio Custodes facebook group where his head looks far less like the bastard offspring of Captain Picard and a hard-boiled egg - I think the issue is the official paintjob makes the facial features look smaller than they otherwise would, which makes his already hefty bonce look truly ridiculous.

Preview: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/03/12/forge-world-preview-termite-assault-drillgw-homepage-post-2/

I needs it!

Edit: Nice to see the original Epic termites appearing in the update as well!

I'm very interested in how this will DS, if it is as effective as a SM Drop Pod was in 7th then it'll be extremely useful for non SM armies in 30k. I am hopeful this will be a valid choice for mechanicum.

When the ordiantus version arrives if that can do the same but with giant robots I would be over the moon.

That is just absolutely gorgeous! I will want just so many of these and I don't even know if I can use them!

Yet more amazing looking transports for admech that would make all their fragile assault troops instantly viable in 8th edition 40k.

I'm guessing not even beta rules.

#justwaitforfires!
#itsgonnabegreat!
#threeyearsandcounting!