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 Sacredroach wrote:
 gorgon wrote:
I think COVID and the lack of in-store gaming has hurt the spread of AT. The game is a great demo. Looks terrific on the table, and it's easy to pick up the basics and start understanding the crunch of the gameplay.


Except for the fact that GW stores don't carry AT and at least in our GW shop they prefer that you not use their limited tablespace for Specialist Games...or Middle Earth.

We have a dedicated group that plays at a couple of FLGS shops, but since most of the product is Direct only...it is the business model for marketing AT (and others...looking at you Blood Bowl) needs to drastically change.




I’m assuming this depends on the store?
GW Portsmouth has a row of shelves behind the counter with specialist stuff on them.
Granted, it’s not a full stock of everything, but they do hold a fair bit.
   
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tneva82 wrote:
And whether it actually sells consistently enough it's worth it. If it's mostly sitting there with only occasional purchase it just ain't worth the shelf space


True, but that might very well end up being a regional thing. If it sells poor in some regions but well in others then its likely worth it. GW already owns all the shelf space in the store so its just GW brand competing with GW brand. The big difference is if someone is interested in it and they can pick it up off the shelf that means a sale; mail order or come and pick it up another week can often result in no sale. Plus most of the specialist games are really light on shelf space. AT can be advertised with 1 starter box, 1 titan box and perhaps one or two other boxes. GW could do a single shelf rack of AT, AN, Bloodbowl and Necromunda all together under a Specialist Banner as a standard practice for all stores; then simply let managers adjust to suit their local customer base.

   
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 Overread wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
And whether it actually sells consistently enough it's worth it. If it's mostly sitting there with only occasional purchase it just ain't worth the shelf space


True, but that might very well end up being a regional thing. If it sells poor in some regions but well in others then its likely worth it. GW already owns all the shelf space in the store so its just GW brand competing with GW brand. The big difference is if someone is interested in it and they can pick it up off the shelf that means a sale; mail order or come and pick it up another week can often result in no sale. Plus most of the specialist games are really light on shelf space. AT can be advertised with 1 starter box, 1 titan box and perhaps one or two other boxes. GW could do a single shelf rack of AT, AN, Bloodbowl and Necromunda all together under a Specialist Banner as a standard practice for all stores; then simply let managers adjust to suit their local customer base.


It's GW brand competing with GW brand in reducing amount of stuff that sells quickly. Turnover is important for stores. Boxes sitting on shelf unsold costs money. The reason MTG is such a big thing money wise is because turnover is so fast. You put boxes of cards to shelf and they won't be collecting dust long. Any store wants stuff that ISN'T just sitting there collecting dust.

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Magic is also cheap, per chunk of game sold. It's easier to walk into a store and drop $20 on some cards than it is to buy the AT box.

   
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Just skimmed through the battle report in WD #455, and it was a riot.

It was a real treat at almost 20 pages, and both sides featured very large armies at 3,000+ points. Truely, this was "clash of the titans"! All warmachines, great and small, were involved. The narrative was pretty good too.

Some niggles, though. Once again, its another game where I easily predicted the outcome just by looking at the two armies involved. The set up was a bit too far outside its mission parameters - for example, it states 2,500 points against 3,000, but both armies are more than 3,000 points each. Lastly, apparently the Porphyrions are still "nasty" when the opposing side has a supporting cast of four warlord titans, and given their reputation I'm surprised one of those warlord hadn't targeted them on the first turn as a priority.

Didn't expect much from the report but would say its worth it. Thumbs up!

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SamusDrake wrote:
Just skimmed through the battle report in WD #455, and it was a riot.

It was a real treat at almost 20 pages, and both sides featured very large armies at 3,000+ points. Truely, this was "clash of the titans"! All warmachines, great and small, were involved. The narrative was pretty good too.

Some niggles, though. Once again, its another game where I easily predicted the outcome just by looking at the two armies involved. The set up was a bit too far outside its mission parameters - for example, it states 2,500 points against 3,000, but both armies are more than 3,000 points each. Lastly, apparently the Porphyrions are still "nasty" when the opposing side has a supporting cast of four warlord titans, and given their reputation I'm surprised one of those warlord hadn't targeted them on the first turn as a priority.

Didn't expect much from the report but would say its worth it. Thumbs up!


Which WD was it? Aug?


Ya porphyrions are worth every penny. Reliable fire support.

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It certainly is August.

And yes, I love me some Porpys!

Oh, and "SOUND THE WARHORNS!" should now be a thing. Why, even Ramirez said in Highlander "You can only start playing AT if you declare 'Sound the warhorns!'. Its tradition."

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Unfortunately your shipment has just been intercepted by pirates, whom are now considering giving up the life of riley and becoming professional Titanicus players.

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SamusDrake wrote:
Unfortunately your shipment has just been intercepted by pirates, whom are now considering giving up the life of riley and becoming professional Titanicus players.


Totally feasible - I mean, who wouldn't?

   
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From here: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/09/20/sunday-preview-crusading-into-the-nexus-and-tactical-terrain/

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As it's been digitally sculpted, I'd expect an AT-scale version in the next quarter or so.

Probably a new box as opposed to an upgrade sprue.
   
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Better be both like warlord/reaver rather than just box...Remember what uproar it caused when originally plasma warlord and volcano reaver were supposed to be just individual box so there literally was no way to get titan with all weapon options with the exception of buying whole kit and throw spare body into trash can...

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The complete kit will be out first though… maybe by a month, maybe more.

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In this case I think a separate kit is more warranted. The ammo loader on the back is definitely packing shells - I imagine the volcano-warbringer having huge power cells/capacitors on the back. Sure, some people will be happy just to swap out the turret, and some crazy fools will magnetize the whole setup, but still....
   
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are the packing shells part of the body sprue or weapon sprue in original?

Not much of use for magnets then :(

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Seems to be on the weapon sprue.
   
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Well if it's on weapon sprue the capacitators for volcano cannon would be on same part? Or is there literally something in body part that makes it non-viable?

Would seem pretty weird for GW to make it like that. They are usually good at making kits that allow such flexibility and that's been part of AT models so far.

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I’m not familiar with the kit itself, but the attached pic is the weapon sprue. Certainly looks to only be gun parts, including the loader mechanisms?

Wonder if we’ll just see the big gun replaced, or if they’ll offer different arm weapons on the sprue?
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Wonder if we’ll just see the big gun replaced, or if they’ll offer different arm weapons on the sprue?

Volcano cannon & laser blaster are on that sprue, and it can also take a melta cannon & gatling blaster so we might see those. I'd like to see some new weapons - a missile pod or plasma gun would be good.
   
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They will almost certainly have the other weapons on any replacement sprue. As for the ammo hoppers and loading cranes, they are on that sprue and can be magnetised to be removable.
What is slightly annoying is that the head isn’t, so you either end up with spares and less space on the new weapon sprue, or no replacement head. Unless they do a new armour sprue as well…

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 Mr_Rose wrote:
They will almost certainly have the other weapons on any replacement sprue. As for the ammo hoppers and loading cranes, they are on that sprue and can be magnetised to be removable.
What is slightly annoying is that the head isn’t, so you either end up with spares and less space on the new weapon sprue, or no replacement head. Unless they do a new armour sprue as well…


Maybe new armour, might be first time we see blackshield options for shield incongraphy.

They've hinted at chaos knights/titans. If that's not all on forge world end, could be they're doing it with armour swaps where possible, like maybe blackshield/chaos armour options instead of the usual like traiotr/loyalist/blank. I know blank is essentially blackshields, so it could be they might just do like chaos knight version of existing titans with new/different weapons. Really hope the rapier ends up being true. On the knight front, really hoping we see the atrapos and or magaera before the end of the year. Chaos knights would likely be their own kit I would imagine if/when they ever appear. Hoping that's not fw.

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Crucible of Retribution!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/09/29/coming-soon-crucible-of-retribution/



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Nice to see legio venator getting rules, the new light maniple with the cerastus seems cool.

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Fire Wasps and Astraman are old favourites - glad to see them coming up.

I'm hoping this release sees more weapon options making an appearance, hopefully during this release. Still waiting for the Saturnyne Lascutter for the Warlord as well as the rumoured Volkite arm weapon. Carapace Meltacannons or Plasma Blastguns would be nice as well considering they are explicitly mentioned in the Mechanicum Taghmata rules.
   
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 zedmeister wrote:
Fire Wasps and Astraman are old favourites - glad to see them coming up.

I'm hoping this release sees more weapon options making an appearance, hopefully during this release. Still waiting for the Saturnyne Lascutter for the Warlord as well as the rumoured Volkite arm weapon. Carapace Meltacannons or Plasma Blastguns would be nice as well considering they are explicitly mentioned in the Mechanicum Taghmata rules.


Agreed, more weapon options for the warlord would be nice.

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Are we ever going to see another heavy maniple?
   
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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Are we ever going to see another heavy maniple?


Unlikely. We'll probably see some when(if?) we see a new Warlord type variant of the Nemesis Warbringer
   
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 zedmeister wrote:
Fire Wasps and Astraman are old favourites - glad to see them coming up.

I'm hoping this release sees more weapon options making an appearance, hopefully during this release. Still waiting for the Saturnyne Lascutter for the Warlord as well as the rumoured Volkite arm weapon. Carapace Meltacannons or Plasma Blastguns would be nice as well considering they are explicitly mentioned in the Mechanicum Taghmata rules.


Yeah, and I'm hoping that they actually try to catch up with transfer sheets at some point also. However, I am a-feared that -- not unlike the last book -- this release is going to include Mechanicum Knights and not much else.

Edit: Of course I'm glad to see more support in the form of campaign books. But it feels like the books are stacking up as the other support is falling behind. I understand the global environment. But it feels disjointed from a customer perspective.

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