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2024/11/07 13:18:35
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Anyways, guess I’m in the market for Automata sets when they’re released.
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2024/11/07 13:19:46
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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Anyone else kinda just wish LI just never existed in the first place? Just takes away from focusing on 30k. Should've left Titanicus alone.
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2024/11/07 13:22:20
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Gore-Drenched Khorne Chaos Lord
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Midnightdeathblade wrote:Anyone else kinda just wish LI just never existed in the first place? Just takes away from focusing on 30k. Should've left Titanicus alone.
Let's extrapolate: Anyone else kinda wish HH just never existed in the first place? Just takes away from 40k. Should've left historical content in IA books.
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2024/11/07 13:24:30
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Wouldn't bet on it but what if we get three HH Thursdays today to make up for the two missed weeks
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2024/11/07 13:30:24
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Wouldn't that be something. XD
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2024/11/07 13:39:18
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
The dark hollows of Kentucky
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Gert wrote:I mean, that's completely not true though? You can't claim to speak for all HH players when HH: LI is a objectively a Heresy game.
It would be like saying KT isn't 40k or Warcry isn't AoS.
Nobody is disagreeing that Heresy Thursdays should have been better but pretending LI isn't a part of it when Titanicus was part of it before is just needlessly divisive.
Killteam units are in the correct scale to be used in 40k. Warcry units are in the correct scale to be used in Sigmar. LI units are not in the correct scale to use in HH. That's the difference.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2024/11/07 13:39:58
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2024/11/07 13:40:34
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Fixture of Dakka
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Dudeface wrote: Midnightdeathblade wrote:Anyone else kinda just wish LI just never existed in the first place? Just takes away from focusing on 30k. Should've left Titanicus alone.
Let's extrapolate: Anyone else kinda wish HH just never existed in the first place? Just takes away from 40k. Should've left historical content in IA books.
Let's extrapolate further: Anyone else kinda wish 40k just never existed in the first place? Just takes away from WFB. Shoudl've left this grimdark sci-fi thing alone.
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
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2024/11/07 13:47:19
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
The dark hollows of Kentucky
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I love ya Dysartes.
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2024/11/07 14:03:33
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It seems like they confirmed that HH Thursdays will no longer be weekly in this comment last week. I really wonder what happened that they had to limit the reveals this much. And since we get more for LI I wonder if HH is the problem
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2024/11/07 14:24:18
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Khorne Rhino Driver with Destroyer
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Midnightdeathblade wrote:Anyone else kinda just wish LI just never existed in the first place? Just takes away from focusing on 30k. Should've left Titanicus alone.
Yes, yes, and yes.
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2024/11/07 14:29:27
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Gore-Drenched Khorne Chaos Lord
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Dysartes wrote:Dudeface wrote: Midnightdeathblade wrote:Anyone else kinda just wish LI just never existed in the first place? Just takes away from focusing on 30k. Should've left Titanicus alone.
Let's extrapolate: Anyone else kinda wish HH just never existed in the first place? Just takes away from 40k. Should've left historical content in IA books.
Let's extrapolate further: Anyone else kinda wish 40k just never existed in the first place? Just takes away from WFB. Shoudl've left this grimdark sci-fi thing alone.
Now we're talking!
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2024/11/07 14:34:43
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Nope.
Epic is, and always has been, the best thing GW ever produced.
Not you, Epic 40,000. Back in your hole! Back I say! BACK!
Bad game, dirty game, in your bed, down your hole!
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2024/11/07 14:40:03
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Fixture of Dakka
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Okay, Van Helsing, put the cross away and leave Lucy alone...
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Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.
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2024/11/07 14:47:45
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Foxy Wildborne
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Oh look a filler Mechanicum rules that should have been in the Mechanicum book?
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2024/11/07 14:47:50
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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Epic (2nd edition, circa 1993) was my first GW game. A buddy had all six armies. Yeah there was a lot of inbalance and a lot of weird random stuff (ork mechanic cards and Chaos mutations for example, and special rules for Squat airships), but fun to see huge armies clashing.
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2024/11/07 14:55:05
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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A pretty cool addition if you ask me.
And like the Forge Lord and Praevian consul, a useful way for me to field Mechanicum toys whilst I build up a full army.
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2024/11/07 15:02:36
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Preparing the Invasion of Terra
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Gadzilla666 wrote:
Killteam units are in the correct scale to be used in 40k. Warcry units are in the correct scale to be used in Sigmar. LI units are not in the correct scale to use in HH. That's the difference.
Its Horus Heresy: Legions Imperialis and Horus Heresy: Age of Darkness.
Both fall under the Horus Heresy GW banner.
You and people like you are whinging endlessly because you aren't getting reveals for HH: AoD when Heresy Thursday has never only ever been about HH: AoD.
The scale has no bearing on what is included on a Heresy Thursday article when both games are Horus Heresy games.
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2024/11/07 15:05:50
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Gore-Drenched Khorne Chaos Lord
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Gert wrote: Gadzilla666 wrote:
Killteam units are in the correct scale to be used in 40k. Warcry units are in the correct scale to be used in Sigmar. LI units are not in the correct scale to use in HH. That's the difference.
Its Horus Heresy: Legions Imperialis and Horus Heresy: Age of Darkness.
Both fall under the Horus Heresy GW banner.
You and people like you are whinging endlessly because you aren't getting reveals for HH: AoD when Heresy Thursday has never only ever been about HH: AoD.
The scale has no bearing on what is included on a Heresy Thursday article when both games are Horus Heresy games.
I think the real issue is they don't have enough content to manage one a week. People would be more forgiving if it was both regular and alternated. Instead, we horus heresy something every 3-4 weeks and it might be a fluff article. Aka they needed have bothered announcing it's return.
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2024/11/07 15:09:08
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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The main reason I wish LI didn't exist is because I wish they'd done Epic instead.
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2024/11/07 15:35:49
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Fixture of Dakka
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Maybe the lack of Heresy stuff might be the sign of a twilight phase before a new edition of the game.
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Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.
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2024/11/07 15:49:06
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Preparing the Invasion of Terra
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Dudeface wrote:
I think the real issue is they don't have enough content to manage one a week. People would be more forgiving if it was both regular and alternated. Instead, we horus heresy something every 3-4 weeks and it might be a fluff article. Aka they needed have bothered announcing it's return.
I disagree, people used to complain about Titanicus being on Heresy Thursday despite it being a Heresy game, and they were complaining that LI was on Heresy Thursday from the moment it was announced.
The latest batch of HH Thursdays being sparse has nothing to do with it.
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2024/11/07 15:56:21
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Fixture of Dakka
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Dudeface wrote: Gert wrote: Gadzilla666 wrote:
Killteam units are in the correct scale to be used in 40k. Warcry units are in the correct scale to be used in Sigmar. LI units are not in the correct scale to use in HH. That's the difference.
Its Horus Heresy: Legions Imperialis and Horus Heresy: Age of Darkness.
Both fall under the Horus Heresy GW banner.
You and people like you are whinging endlessly because you aren't getting reveals for HH: AoD when Heresy Thursday has never only ever been about HH: AoD.
The scale has no bearing on what is included on a Heresy Thursday article when both games are Horus Heresy games.
I think the real issue is they don't have enough content to manage one a week. People would be more forgiving if it was both regular and alternated. Instead, we horus heresy something every 3-4 weeks and it might be a fluff article. Aka they needed have bothered announcing it's return.
No, the real issue is that people get themselves too worked up about wether or not HH (whatever scale) gets an article each week. And when it does, then there's a lot of fussing over what it was (or wasnt) about.
Just accept that it's kinda random, read & enjoy each article on its own merritt. And in-between? Don't worry about it.
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2024/11/07 16:00:56
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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SamusDrake wrote:Maybe the lack of Heresy stuff might be the sign of a twilight phase before a new edition of the game.
Boy I hope they don't have the stones to do that, when there are so many glaring rules issues that they haven't bothered FAQing. But I know better.
They really should just name it Heresy monthly. I'd be fine with expecting a single substantial article a month if it was guaranteed for 30K AOD.
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2024/11/07 17:57:20
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Midnightdeathblade wrote:SamusDrake wrote:Maybe the lack of Heresy stuff might be the sign of a twilight phase before a new edition of the game.
Boy I hope they don't have the stones to do that, when there are so many glaring rules issues that they haven't bothered FAQing. But I know better.
You'll get your three year edition churn, and you'll suck it up!
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2024/11/07 17:59:34
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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You don’t want a new edition, because there’s FAQs needed.
But…a new edition tends to bring that tidy up? Granted usually with new ones.
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2024/11/07 18:09:50
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Gore-Drenched Khorne Chaos Lord
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ccs wrote:Dudeface wrote: Gert wrote: Gadzilla666 wrote:
Killteam units are in the correct scale to be used in 40k. Warcry units are in the correct scale to be used in Sigmar. LI units are not in the correct scale to use in HH. That's the difference.
Its Horus Heresy: Legions Imperialis and Horus Heresy: Age of Darkness.
Both fall under the Horus Heresy GW banner.
You and people like you are whinging endlessly because you aren't getting reveals for HH: AoD when Heresy Thursday has never only ever been about HH: AoD.
The scale has no bearing on what is included on a Heresy Thursday article when both games are Horus Heresy games.
I think the real issue is they don't have enough content to manage one a week. People would be more forgiving if it was both regular and alternated. Instead, we horus heresy something every 3-4 weeks and it might be a fluff article. Aka they needed have bothered announcing it's return.
No, the real issue is that people get themselves too worked up about wether or not HH (whatever scale) gets an article each week. And when it does, then there's a lot of fussing over what it was (or wasnt) about.
Just accept that it's kinda random, read & enjoy each article on its own merritt. And in-between? Don't worry about it.
Whilst I agree with your message, this is another in the recent trend of GW switch and baits / half truths they're selling a lot of recently.
Heresy Thursday was previously some HH related content every Thursday, regardless of scale. It stopped. GW announced with fanfare it was back.
Expectation then is that it was back in it's old form, in reality it was "if there's HH news it'll be on a Thursday, when relevant. To us." They withheld the context so they're not wrong, but false expectations were created.
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2024/11/07 18:19:27
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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It would be really fun it the LI and HH was different guys writing and the LI suddenly took a weird alternative timeline making up some radical non-canon turn of events.
Like watching Game of Thrones while knowing how the books play out.
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2024/11/07 18:23:13
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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Midnightdeathblade wrote:SamusDrake wrote:Maybe the lack of Heresy stuff might be the sign of a twilight phase before a new edition of the game.
Boy I hope they don't have the stones to do that, when there are so many glaring rules issues that they haven't bothered FAQing. But I know better.
They really should just name it Heresy monthly. I'd be fine with expecting a single substantial article a month if it was guaranteed for 30K AOD.
The best outcome you can hope for is the proper scale HH being sidelined until the siege of terra.
That seems (to me at least) to be why GW are focussing on LI.
The proper HH mars book was an excuse to bypass any actual mechanicum releases (where the feth are my arlataxes GW?) and revolved around space marines after the civil war was won.
Fast forward a bit, and the LI book actually covered events during the Schizm of Mars, got an arlatax, introduced the new mechanicum without copypasting supplimentary PDFs to introduce old 40k chaos models into the HH in defiance of known lore, got multiple new faction specific units...
It stands to reason that they didnt want to (or decided they are unable to) do the civil war on mars and the new mechanicum in a proper scale and outsourced the plot to a lesser system.
GW hates you.
First stage of dealing with grief is denial.
I've skipped ahead to acceptance.
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2024/11/07 18:29:24
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
Australia
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They should just can Heresy Thursday and return the ad hoc 'Legion Dispatch' of pre-2.0 if they don't intend to keep it weekly. Shoddy communication as always
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The Circle of Iniquity
The Fourth Seal
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2024/11/07 20:36:22
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Nope.
Epic is, and always has been, the best thing GW ever produced.
Not you, Epic 40,000. Back in your hole! Back I say! BACK!
Bad game, dirty game, in your bed, down your hole!
Look if we're actually going to have a schism the obvious answer is that 30k AoD sucks because it's based on 40k and they're both TERRIBLE games for the amount of minis they've scope-crept into, and LI also sucks because it claims it's about all these big battles but instead of a clean elegant system for large games you're stuck dealing with whether each of your leman russes have heavy bolters or lascannons, and Epic 40,000 only sucks because it hasn't gotten a re-issue. On the upside at least they didn't run E40k's legacy by turning it into a three-faction game ala SM2E becoming LI. I say all this while accumulating a significant number of SolAux, but what I'd really have is nonhumans.
In all seriousness though the "Heresy Thursday is back" thing really does seem hollow, but I don't know if that's just someone saying things and not following up, or an intentional bait and switch because they know we'll buy stuff anyway, or if it's something unexpected happening. I do think it'd likely have left us feeling less sour if they just didn't announce it and periodically announced some 30k era stuff, whatever game it's in - and while I like the setting, I do think the fluff pieces are a bit naff, even if the SolAux finally got a few regiments named.
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