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New Mantic orcs, good. Will be nice to see their own version of "Kruleboyz".

The Formations are all specifically made to promote units/playstyles that are rarely taken their army. This is a departure from the 2nd edition formations, some of which just made great units even better.


It's funny they say that for their version in CoK 2022, because that was also their claim for the 2nd edition formations.

But you know, they say they are doing it right this time, so why not believing them and acting like they never did this before ?
   
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Wasn´t there a Herja + Fallen formation in 2nd?

   
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 Illumini wrote:
Wasn´t there a Herja + Fallen formation in 2nd?


Nope, there wasn't. Varangurs had a troll formation and another with raiders and wolves.

Also at that time, Herja was replaced by Magnilde (and nerfed hard ).
   
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Sarouan wrote:
 Illumini wrote:
Wasn´t there a Herja + Fallen formation in 2nd?


Nope, there wasn't. Varangurs had a troll formation and another with raiders and wolves.

Also at that time, Herja was replaced by Magnilde (and nerfed hard ).


Yes, there was - in the 2019 CoK. The first (and extremely bad) version of Magnilde that you are thinking of came in the summer campaign of 2017. The 2019 CoK had Magnilde + 2 Fallen Hordes, all gaining Pathfinder, on the condition that they can't take allies.
In fact, this very formation, and Jesse's, may he rest in peace, memetastic Youtube reaction upon reading it, was how he - and by extension, Kyle - first became known in the KoW community. Which in turn - I presume - lead to them being employed by Mantic which in turn has made Kyle into one of the - in fact, I dare say, the - most famous Mantic representative.

In other news, here is a first glance on the new Orcs:

Spoiler:


Not a big fan, to be honest - too WoW, too AoS for me.

The big red ones might make for nice Ogres though.

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first "hint" for the new Orcs


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They seem to be following the "all hammers all the time" aesthetic of the original stormcast....

That being said, I like what I see so far.
   
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I need to see more photos, especially showing the new orcs from the front, to judge if I like them or not.
   
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 Shadow Walker wrote:
I need to see more photos, especially showing the new orcs from the front, to judge if I like them or not.
I mean, same Note that the big red things are apparently cyclopses, which is neat and goes with the forge god thing going on with the faction's background. Curious what will set them apart from other large infantry.

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 Boss Salvage wrote:
 Shadow Walker wrote:
I need to see more photos, especially showing the new orcs from the front, to judge if I like them or not.
I mean, same Note that the big red things are apparently cyclopses, which is neat and goes with the forge god thing going on with the faction's background. Curious what will set them apart from other large infantry.


My money's on depth perception.
   
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Looks like the orcs will be more high fantasy rather than dark fantasy.

Hopefully the existing range will remain.

The full army shot of the halflings looks fantastic, they really went all-out with a complete army release this time.

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 sukura636 wrote:
 Boss Salvage wrote:
 Shadow Walker wrote:
I need to see more photos, especially showing the new orcs from the front, to judge if I like them or not.
I mean, same Note that the big red things are apparently cyclopses, which is neat and goes with the forge god thing going on with the faction's background. Curious what will set them apart from other large infantry.


My money's on depth perception.

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 sukura636 wrote:
 Boss Salvage wrote:
 Shadow Walker wrote:
I need to see more photos, especially showing the new orcs from the front, to judge if I like them or not.
I mean, same Note that the big red things are apparently cyclopses, which is neat and goes with the forge god thing going on with the faction's background. Curious what will set them apart from other large infantry.


My money's on depth perception.


Wow racial stereotyping much, smh

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
 sukura636 wrote:
 Boss Salvage wrote:
 Shadow Walker wrote:
I need to see more photos, especially showing the new orcs from the front, to judge if I like them or not.
I mean, same Note that the big red things are apparently cyclopses, which is neat and goes with the forge god thing going on with the faction's background. Curious what will set them apart from other large infantry.


My money's on depth perception.


Wow racial stereotyping much, smh


Lol, yeah. I would hope the Cyclopes have an ability based on Krull, where they know the moment of their death.
   
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 Esmer wrote:


Yes, there was - in the 2019 CoK. The first (and extremely bad) version of Magnilde that you are thinking of came in the summer campaign of 2017. The 2019 CoK had Magnilde + 2 Fallen Hordes, all gaining Pathfinder, on the condition that they can't take allies.


Ah, I stand corrected ! Forget the CoK 2019, indeed. Yet that version of Magnilde in the formation was nothing like the old Herja.

To be fair, the problem with Fallen was really shown when a french player had a good idea to come with a list built on them and let's say...a bit "optimized" to their UK tournament.


Hm, the new orcs look very bulky indeed. The red ones look very big - bigger than ogre size, IMHO. Clearly Monstrous Infantry (50 mm squares). But yeah, I'm waiting to see the front version.

The hammer focus is maybe because they are intended to have a link with blacksmiths ? Like forging the weapons of the Rift ?

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While I am not a fan of what seems to be an aesthetic that draws inspiration from the likes of World of Warcraft, it is nice to see Mantic expand their ranges and their models be less of a WFB knock off.

The prevalence of hammers is nice, adds to the forge aspect that these Orcs draw heavily from.

Still, until we see more of these models it isn't too fair to judge them... but damn is that a lot of armour!

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Heavy armored anything > the same but without armour.

Thats why black orcs are my favourite kind of greenskins. This new army looks promising.

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More armor means more conversions.

   
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More armor means easier paint jobs.

Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!

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 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
More armor means easier paint jobs.


Ooh, I like that, too.

   
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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
More armor means easier paint jobs.


Ooh, I like that, too.


Also probably more points per model, so fewer to paint

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Uh, sure. I also limit my purchases by game utility. :wink:

   
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Mantic is sharing info across various community channels, including Master-Crafted (which is more or less direct from Mantic, as it's Kyle P's own):



One delicious nugget for every faction shared (from memory):
- Basilean: Angels give Elite to Humans fighting with them in a combat
- Dwarfs: Berserker Nv bump and Slayer (D6)
- Elves: Archers to Ra 4+ / De 3+
- Northern Alliance: 2x Clansmen + Orlaf Formation
- Forces of Nature: Wyrmriders with TC (2) on top of CS (1) (have new name, likely not in Trident Realm)
- Ogres: Mammoth optional upgrade to Brutal (2), Very Inspiring, can give a unit in 12" Brutal (+1)
- Trident Realm: Coral Giant gets D6+8 attaks, Slayer (D3 or D6)
- Abyssal Dwarfs: Helfane points drop, maybe Rampage (D3 or D6)
- Empire of Dust: 2E Wormriders are back! Large cav 24 attak grind unit.
- Forces of the Abyss: Chroneas gets Me 3+, damage done in combat can heal friends nearby (up to 3)
- Goblins: Living Legend Luggit horde (Brutal, WC, 30 attaks, -/22)
- Nightstalkers: Portal of Despair gets Radiance of Life and I think an adjustment to its inspiring ability
- Orcs: 2x Chariots + Chariot War Drum Formation
- Undead: 2x Zombie Legions + Goreblight Formation
- Brothermark: Dragon + 2x Knights Formation
- Green Lady: Green Lady's Champion super individual (aka The Green Knight)
- Free Dwarfs: Brocks pathfinder upgrade option
- Salamanders: Firebrand makes Corsairs regular
- Sylvan Kin: Archwraith to De 4+, gets pathfinder, has aura (optional?) to buff Boskwraiths
- The Herd: Avatar of the Father is back!
- Kingdoms of Men: The Monarch, customizable titan that can buff different things and fly if you want it to
- League of Rhordia: Halflings Formation
- Ratkin: Mutant Rat Fiend heal aura is +D3 to certain keywords around it
- Ratkin Slaves: Chariot Legend that can overrun off of units ala individuals
- Twilight Kin: Gladestalkers Me 3+ and always wound on 4+ in combat, at the cost of steady aim; apparently all three flavors of Gladestalkers are different for different kin
- Varangur: Reavers WC (D3) and the Mark of the Reaper is different



- Tortured Souls get TC (1)
- Well of Souls drops to 290 pts, gets Lifeleech (5)
- Living Legend Abyssal Guard regiment with Rally (1), Elite (Heroes), Nv -/17, etc.

- Greater Fire Elemental gets Me 3+ (YES!) and an optional aura (Salamander only)
- Slasher gets 12 attaks and an optional aura (Gekkotah only)
- Living Legend non-flying CLOFD (YES!)

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- Living Legend non-flying CLOFD (YES!)


YES! indeed! Removal of non-flying CLOFD right after I converted a Magmadroth with a Carnosaur saddle was absolutely infuriating.

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what's CLOFD again...?

I play...

Sigh.

Who am I kidding? I only paint these days... 
   
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New (Riftforged) Orcs.

Enough to stop people saying KoW has crap sculpts? Of course not.













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That's certainly an unique take on Orks

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I like the new orcs.
   
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Can't say I am impressed, Mantic's sculpt quality is getting much better.. just not a fan of this style for Orcs.

The Cyclops in armour looks off, again the aesthetic doesn't seem right to me.

Could be the paint job, as it is very clean and bright.

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Literally Stormcast Orkternals and I fear Mantic might not even have realized they're making another GW parody faction by accident, which is worrying.

Visually uninteresting, maybe because of the World of Warcraft paintjobs.

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