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So is there a Silent King Character that will actually get a model? or is he just a fluff guy?

LunaHound wrote:I dont really dislike the "new sculpts"
What irks me is how out dated the necron pilots / crews look.

You know, I'm begining to agree with you in a sense. Individually, any of the new models are not over the top Space Tomb Kings (other than the vehicles, which I hate almost everything about.) It's just when taken as a whole, they just give too much of that vibe to me.

Maelstrom808 wrote:

LunaHound wrote:I dont really dislike the "new sculpts"
What irks me is how out dated the necron pilots / crews look.

You know, I'm begining to agree with you in a sense. Individually, any of the new models are not over the top Space Tomb Kings (other than the vehicles, which I hate almost everything about.) It's just when taken as a whole, they just give too much of that vibe to me.

The limbs of the old ( and also current Necrons ) was one of the most sub par areas of that line.
It's disappointing to see them staying the same knowing GW has the technology to produce better.

On the positive side.... old Necron owners wont feel left out...

Man, I'm loving these new rumours bout the fluff and rules
Can't wait to see what the codex cover looks like, (as long as it isnt a BA/ cron fistbump...)

LunaHound wrote:

Maelstrom808 wrote:

LunaHound wrote:I dont really dislike the "new sculpts"
What irks me is how out dated the necron pilots / crews look.

You know, I'm begining to agree with you in a sense. Individually, any of the new models are not over the top Space Tomb Kings (other than the vehicles, which I hate almost everything about.) It's just when taken as a whole, they just give too much of that vibe to me.

The limbs of the old ( and also current Necrons ) was one of the most sub par areas of that line.
It's disappointing to see them staying the same knowing GW has the technology to produce better.

On the positive side.... old Necron owners wont feel left out...

I don't mind the limbs so much, and it does seem that they've done some better detail work on the legs. My biggest gripe with the current necrons is that they pretty much came in two flavors: Regular shoulder pads, and World of Warcraft sized shoulder pads. The new sculpts seem to change that up quite a bit, and even get away from shoulder pads all together. I just wish they'd have done something other than the headresses and metal cloaks.

cyberscape7 wrote:Man, I'm loving these new rumours bout the fluff and rules
Can't wait to see what the codex cover looks like, (as long as it isnt a BA/ cron fistbump...)

I dunno, the current dex cover art is the best they've ever done imo. It'd be hard to top. Won't be overly disapointed if it doesn't live up to the current artwork, pleasently suprised if it does.

Dooms Day Ark

Anpu-adom wrote:

Swara wrote:

Anpu-adom wrote:So... which other Necron players are planning on buying LOTS of magnets in the near future?!?

What are you planning to magnetize? I'm planning (after looking at the rules) on buying a bunch of transports and lychguards.... love those shields.

A couple of the transports, and see if I could magnetized a squad of Immortals/Deathmarks.

Transports look like they will be a pain to magnetize I'm even considering having "my" Doomsday Arks with their gun on the top because of how difficult it looks like magnetizing each of those prongs is going to be.

Command/Support barge looks easy enough.

KarlPedder wrote:

Transports look like they will be a pain to magnetize I'm even considering having "my" Doomsday Arks with their gun on the top because of how difficult it looks like magnetizing each of those prongs is going to be.

Hard to tell from the pics, but I imagine you'd just magnetize the prow type piece and then assemble the whole hull part and have that magnetized at each end. It seem to attach higher on the engine/command thing in gun mode than in transport mode.

I'll have to see what the full description of the Ghost Ark is, but I'm already working on some alternatives to the warriors in stasis or whatever is going on there. Those models will be useful elsewhere though for sure.

People have obviously got their hands on a leaked codex, only a matter of time until a PDF appears somewhere on the vast internet (I will be buying mine btw )

I'm curious as to what's going to be the first necron unit or piece of wargear that GW is going to fail to manufacture that will end up being a linchpin of competitive netlists and immediately lead to a combi-melta-like string of posts in the painting and modeling forums. We should start a betting pool.

junk wrote:I'm curious as to what's going to be the first necron unit or piece of wargear that GW is going to fail to manufacture that will end up being a linchpin of competitive netlists and immediately lead to a combi-melta-like string of posts in the painting and modeling forums. We should start a betting pool.

I'd say the Triarch Walker. Thing sounds like a must have so far.

BrookM wrote:Vulkan, Corax or a pre-Heresy Thunder Warrior, whom have been described as being huger than Space Marines. In a few months that last one will make more sense.

BrookM wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:Elaborate on that last bit Brook.

I got it from a novel that's due to be released soon.

I know I have a pretty hardline attitude to avoiding spoilers from a book I'm looking forward to, but as if it wasn't enough that I have to boycott the Black Library thread, now I have to avoid threads about Necron minature releases too? Spoiler tags would have been nice.

Lots of allegations and misinformation running around regarding our handling of the Necron LeaK, makes for interesting reading... however...

For those that are interested we’re running a LIVE show ( We call it Turn8 ) on Thursday Night 10pm BST (GMT+1) where we will be giving the inside story on this whole affair

We won’t be discussing our source but I’ll be happy to say who it wasn’t!

More info will be published here: http://www.beastsofwar.com

You can contact us on the show with questions etc by tweeting @beastsofwar

Hope the MODS don't mind us posting this, but this will give us the chance to set the record straight and give anyone whose interested a glimpse into who these leaks come about and are managed.

Thanks Folks for making Friday Night so exciting!

No! Don't do it! If you do, GW will clamp down and silence will fall again!

That makes me a saaaaad panda

kitch102 wrote:No! Don't do it! If you do, GW will clamp down and silence will fall again!

That makes me a saaaaad panda

Like I said, we won't be discussing sources we have a right to protect them. But you may find everything else interesting.

I'm pretty happy with the majority of the models, the only ones I'm slightly disappointed with are the Flayed Ones. Don't waana run on about it though as I know it's been said a lot in this discussion.

I've always had a soft spot for the old models, always thought they looked threatening and menacing. Not sure if it's been mentioned or not, but they are still available on the GW website, I've just ordered 5 packs.

So I suggest to all you guys out there who are not fans of the new sculpts, get your orders in before they take them down and you have to pay exorbitant prices on EBay to get the Flayed Ones you want for your army.

Look forward to the show BoW, and more Necron deliciousness.

LunaHound wrote:I thought its common knowledge by now.
The fluff, the stats, the point cost, special rules,
are all "adjusted" for the sake of selling new products.

Mandrakes? Pyrovore? Tervigon?

Slackermagee wrote:Aw man, GW's new policy on leaks and rumors is working so, so well. We've got close to the whole codex and they've not even decided to disclose release day.

Officially they haven't even confirmed Necrons
But there still seem to be some people at GW with common sense, balls, interest in marketing and pity for customers who leak this info. But GW works on eliminating them

LunaHound wrote:Dooms Day Ark

Tempted to include it in the first post!

BEASTSOFWAR wrote:For those that are interested we’re running a LIVE show ( We call it Turn8 ) on Thursday Night 10pm BST (GMT+1) where we will be giving the inside story on this whole affair.

Will be a busy Thursday Night for me then.

BEASTSOFWAR wrote:Lots of allegations and misinformation running around regarding our handling of the Necron LeaK, makes for interesting reading... however...

For those that are interested we’re running a LIVE show ( We call it Turn8 ) on Thursday Night 10pm BST (GMT+1) where we will be giving the inside story on this whole affair

We won’t be discussing our source but I’ll be happy to say who it wasn’t!

More info will be published here: http://www.beastsofwar.com

You can contact us on the show with questions etc by tweeting @beastsofwar

Hope the MODS don't mind us posting this, but this will give us the chance to set the record straight and give anyone whose interested a glimpse into who these leaks come about and are managed.

Thanks Folks for making Friday Night so exciting!

You could always say it was Matt Ward who leaked all this, it might get him fired and then all 40k players would be forever in your debt!

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Red Corsair wrote:H.B.M.C. I am waiting to hear you start complaining on the behalf of us CSM players again

When we get a Legion Codex where your Legion is defined by the Special Character you take, then you'll hear me complain. In the meantime, other than the reduction of the C'Tan and the retconning of the Enslaver Plague, I like this new direction. I think the transport is stupid and I think the Flayed Ones look terrible, but the rest is win/win from my perspective.

Pretty much where I'm at as well. I fully endorse the evolution of the Necrons themselves, but I hate the diminishing of the C'Tan and I think could have easily kept the current backstory and just added to it rather than the full on rewrite it's sounding like. Would have Much preferred an Obelisk than the transport they've shown. At the very least if I decide to get the new stuff I'll be removing all of the vehicle crews and transported warriors and installing portals onto them.

Do we know if the Flayed Ones are finecast or plastic? They might not look Too bad with better posing and paintjobs, but yes the picture they've got makes them the worst looking new models, and much worse than the old.

Changing Destroyers to Jump Infantry amuses me due to how I built mine already. Makes my conversions of them very fortunate indeed.

And I'm already hoping to get enough extra weapons and shields from the lych guard to upgrade the arms on my Bane Knights. Will be interesting to see what other elements of the new Necrons in can incorporate into my Cryx as well.

PhantomViper wrote:
You could always say it was Matt Ward who leaked all this, it might get him fired and then all 40k players would be forever in your debt!

The Joys of being a game designer, they get more stick than we do lol!

You may not like him but he must be a money making machine for GW

Aduro wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Red Corsair wrote:H.B.M.C. I am waiting to hear you start complaining on the behalf of us CSM players again

When we get a Legion Codex where your Legion is defined by the Special Character you take, then you'll hear me complain. In the meantime, other than the reduction of the C'Tan and the retconning of the Enslaver Plague, I like this new direction. I think the transport is stupid and I think the Flayed Ones look terrible, but the rest is win/win from my perspective.

Pretty much where I'm at as well. I fully endorse the evolution of the Necrons themselves, but I hate the diminishing of the C'Tan and I think could have easily kept the current backstory and just added to it rather than the full on rewrite it's sounding like. Would have Much preferred an Obelisk than the transport they've shown. At the very least if I decide to get the new stuff I'll be removing all of the vehicle crews and transported warriors and installing portals onto them.

Do we know if the Flayed Ones are finecast or plastic? They might not look Too bad with better posing and paintjobs, but yes the picture they've got makes them the worst looking new models, and much worse than the old.

Changing Destroyers to Jump Infantry amuses me due to how I built mine already. Makes my conversions of them very fortunate indeed.

And I'm already hoping to get enough extra weapons and shields from the lych guard to upgrade the arms on my Bane Knights. Will be interesting to see what other elements of the new Necrons in can incorporate into my Cryx as well.

Aduro! I figured you'd be making additions to your own force!

Cheeky email sent to the mail order monkeys

Flashman wrote:Hi there

Saw some awesome new Necron miniatures over the weekend.

Could you tell me when these are being released?

Looking forward to reading the new codex anyway. The new background sounds amazing!

Kind regards

Flashman

Immensely childish I know, but it's lunch and I'm bored.

I was gonna do exactly the same thing, just for the sake of it, and to point out that this secrecy act really doesn't work and doesn't suit them

Great idea! Guess I will send an email as well. Everyone else should as well. Just to let them know how foolish their new secrecy policy is.

I suspect that the Flayed Ones are plastic, as they're priced the same as the Immortals and Deathmarks.

Vampirate of Sartosa wrote:I suspect that the Flayed Ones are plastic, as they're priced the same as the Immortals and Deathmarks.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the price quoted for all the above units is the same as for a unit of 5 Grey Knights PA, which in turn are the same price as 5 Wracks, 5 Mandrakes etc.....l

It's the pricing on the troop transport that's bugging me.

If my money conversion fu is accurate we'd be paying close to land raider prices for flying rhinos, or footslogging.

They are priced for the heavy support slot. It'd be like buying ravagers to make raiders in a DE army.

31.00 pounds = 48.94 USD at time of writing.

I can't think of any other race's basic transports that clock in this high. The scythe model may be cheaper, but we don't know yet, and somehow i doubt it, as it also has a HS feel to it..

Definately WON'T be using the command chariot, but the support variant, now there is something worth looking at. I just don't like the idea of my lord preaching to the troops.

Funny enough, I feel the same way about the transport model, don't like the 'trade federation driod carrier' variant, but like it more with a BIG GUN! I will probably do both conversions as suggested earlier in this thread, shorten the arms AND turn the ends around to better encase the weapon. I will also be modding the 'crew' on all vehicles, however. Probably making the bottom of the torso more like that of a Destroyer. I don't see the sense of having a Destroyer give up it's legs for a platform but having 'crew' on 'vehicles'. If we were to make a 'robot car', we would not make a humanoid robot that could drive a car. The Destroyers prove that the Necrontyr are not adveerse to combining themselves into non-humaniod chassis, so why have full bodied 'crew'? I will probably still leave the controls and the rest of the 'crew' s bodies, just remove the legs.


Hope the warriors are just being re-boxed, possibly with the green weapon rods being replaced with the new design as I could do with at least 10 more, up to a maximum of 90 more to max out my troops under the current rules. I like the snipers, not that fussed about the infantry weapons as I am a bit of a fan of the coloured acrylic rods as they at least make the 'crons a bit more sylistically individual.

HOWEVER, what I plan on doing is converting them anyway. I am already ordering some blue rods to replace the green I already have - including those in my Monolith - and will use one of the old green ones to see if I can mask some Necron patterns in one, CB undercoat the rest of the rod (or possibly Mithril silver the rod, then CB over the top) to see if I can tie both generations of weapons together.

The thing is, the new transports have a maximum capacity of 15. Is this the new max. unit size, or will it remain at 20? As I am re-painting my 'crons at the moment, I would like to know as I will be using the chestplate/ribcage as a squad identifier and don't want to have to re-paint some of them again if the squad size is being reduced. I could of course just paint them in squads of 15 for the moment anyway, as I need more of the 'current' style warriors to bulk out my forces to get them up to capacity anyway.

Ascalam wrote:
I can't think of any other race's basic transports that clock in this high. The scythe model may be cheaper, but we don't know yet, and somehow i doubt it, as it also has a HS feel to it..

Eldar's Wave Serpents are £28 so its pretty close. Remember that only Warriors can use Ghost Arks, so your talking a maximum of 6 in a normal 40k game.

I know were your coming from though, one thing that annoyed me about Orks was the £41 price tag on their good transport. Hopefully we'll see Scythes at £20 - though I agree with you that we'll likely see it at the same price as it will most likely double as the Doom Scythe.

Still, Necrons are looking schweet!