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Well you might start with one or two boxes of a Warcry Warband - add in an allied Darkoath Warqueen or any one of a number of the Tzeentch, Khorne or Nurgle (why no Slaanesh GW?) allies. You've got a pack of warbeasts too so there's some furies and perhaps you went and got a chimera too.

That's already the ground work of building an AoS army.

Sure you're not going to be building a 1K (in AoS points) worth warband typically; just like you won't do that in Killteam.

But you'll likely pick up enough to build a 500 point force and get started trying out AoS - get enough encouragment to work your way toward a 1K Meeting Engagement force.



For the other armies its even quicker because most of them rely on one or two boxed sets of troops so you'll build up even quicker.



Like I said its the gateway product that gets you in the front door and playing with a quick purchase. The more you play the more you might buy and before you knwo it you've a few hundred points worth of models then the jump to a 500 or 1K army in AoS isn't so "omg that's so much".



As I just noted with the "missing" slaanesh, not everything is even in Warcry yet. We might well see more monsters, characters and certainly a second wave of army cards for more regular armies joining in. GW might bring Skirmish back as well as another gateway product, but so far at this point in time the marketed gateway product is Warcry.

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Sure, getting started with a Warcry warband and adding a few things to go to 500pts is a reasonable approach. No doubt about that.

But did I get you wrong? I thought initially you were talking about those warbands being a genuine replacement for a dedicated Marauder type kit?

Because that's what got me to think. You can't make a battletome and its miniatures solely based on the potential of another line of models providing a basis for half to a quarter of the actual army size. Just like you can't fall back on filling the missing models with allies because if that constitutes the bulk of your army, are you even playing Slaves to Darkness anymore?

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Had a thought about Slaves To Darkness.

With what they did to the various Order Factions, I can see the chaos marauder kit being retired. It’s old, outdated, and the warcry warbands have effectively replaced it. But there’s the chaos marauder horseman kit; much newer, looks pretty damn good and is modern in layout. So what if it was retained, and renamed as another tribe kit, if that makes sense?

Like, you’ve got the iron golems for example, who are heavily armoured infantry. You’ve got the Splintered Fang, the Corvus Cabal, Untamed Beasts etc. Just call the marauder horsemen the Savage Riders or whatever and bam, done.

I like the idea of the book being two factions; the tribal marauding slaves to darkness, and the highly disciplined heavily armoured everchosen, Archeon’s personal army.
   
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Cities of Sigmar and Orruk WarClans next week

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/09/22/coming-soon-middle-earth-mortal-realms-and-more/
   
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Will be getting the Citys book for the background if nothing else. Although the Anvilguard box has some nice models in it.
   
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Vihti, Finland

New Art:






And most shockingly, new starting sets:

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New lizardmen and new humans would be VERY fantastic.

   
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Combining the Core Rules, Pitched Battle rules, Realm of Battle rules (including Artefacts and Spells of the Realms), the Grand Alliance allegiance abilities and 31 Pitched Battle battleplans, it’s the perfect companion for your next matched play game.

Sounds like a good way to get new players into the game instead of buying the Core Rules and the Malign Sorcery box.

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 Ghaz wrote:


Combining the Core Rules, Pitched Battle rules, Realm of Battle rules (including Artefacts and Spells of the Realms), the Grand Alliance allegiance abilities and 31 Pitched Battle battleplans, it’s the perfect companion for your next matched play game.

Sounds like a good way to get new players into the game instead of buying the Core Rules and the Malign Sorcery box.



Now, I wonder if this will make the realm spells more "official" for games. Right now the artifacts are almost always allowed to be taken in most tournaments and matched play games, but the realm spells have not usually been allowed.


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I've been waiting for a dwarf/dispossessed box for so long. And it came with more than I figured it would, since it has two HQs. I don't have the engineer model, but the runesmith would have been better, since he's got two heads and four arm options (the engineer at least can swap out the axe, I suppose). I'm glad that they kept the more decent looking dwarfs, though I wish they kept the unforged/slayer. (The model is still around as Grombrindal, for now...)

I like the comet/tree design on that shield in the artwork, though it reminds me a bit too much of Slaanesh for some reason.

Oddly enough, the cogsmith doesn't even show up under the dispossessed range. Not that it should be an issue, given that the book is a compilation of multiple factions.

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Woohoo those guys on the art look new !! fingers crossed !
   
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That's an interesting armour style on the saurus on the bottom right.
   
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Lake County, Illinois

Is there some new terrain in this picture? I don't recognize the monster statues holding up the globe on the right, but I also don't have much AOS scenery.

Spoiler:

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 Albino Squirrel wrote:
Is there some new terrain in this picture? I don't recognize the monster statues holding up the globe on the right, but I also don't have much AOS scenery.

Spoiler:


I can't recall the name but it's an old one from when sigmar was first released, they had a wave of god awful chinese made plastic ruins that were pre clipped and never built well imo.
   
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 Albino Squirrel wrote:
Is there some new terrain in this picture? I don't recognize the monster statues holding up the globe on the right


It looks a lot like the Numinous Occulum, but there are differences.
   
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That whole wall is new terrain.

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 Albino Squirrel wrote:
Is there some new terrain in this picture? I don't recognize the monster statues holding up the globe on the right, but I also don't have much AOS scenery.

Spoiler:

Looks like it's just a conversion of the Numinous Occulum:

Spoiler:


Dudeface wrote:
I can't recall the name but it's an old one from when sigmar was first released, they had a wave of god awful chinese made plastic ruins that were pre clipped and never built well imo.

I believe you're referring to the scenery which was released with the Storm of Magic rules for WHFB (e.g., the Magewrath Throne, Eternity Stairs, Dreadfire Portal, etc.).

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cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
That whole wall is new terrain.


It's just the Shattered Dominion set used in different ways along with wedding cake columns. The top of the walls are the sides of the Gryphstatue plinths and the column plinths for example

it was shown at the open day

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Lake County, Illinois

Maybe. But they would have had to cut away the wall from it, and then remove the tail piece, and resculpted the broken horn pieces. But it does look like exactly the same statue.



But it does look like the walls underneath are the numinous occulum walls turned upside-down.

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Man, if they replaced the old State Troop box with humans that looked like that art I would be so tempted. The old State Troops look way too rag-tag for AoS (the Greatswords still hold up pretty well in my opinion).


 
   
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Just caught my attention the dwarf box is mentioned to have the firepower to tackle enemies at any range... with a total of 1 ranged unit in the box?
   
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Dudeface wrote:
Just caught my attention the dwarf box is mentioned to have the firepower to tackle enemies at any range... with a total of 1 ranged unit in the box?


Yes and if you buy now my shiny Duardin Forged Armour is guaranteed to shrug of any assault that the Ruinous Powers might throw at you. A steal at only 330Urgold! Buy it now and I'll even throw in an authentic crossbow, capable of firing armour piercing bolts that can punch through the hardest of known Chaos hide! Be the envy of your friends; the bane of your foes and buy now!



Marketing is always about hyping up what you get. If its got one ranged model then that IS being capable of shredding your opponent at range. It never says it will win the war nor that its ranged focused. It's more pointing out that the boxed set has range and close combat capabilities. Esp considering how some getting started boxes can be purely close combat.

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Ironbreakers are a dual kit with the Irondrakes, so you can make an all shooty army from that box.
   
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 zend wrote:
Ironbreakers are a dual kit with the Irondrakes, so you can make an all shooty army from that box.


That makes more sense then, the test just didn't seem to match the image. I appreciate the more factual response as well.
   
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That Saurus warrior certainly is wearing a lot more armor than usual.

The rest look about the same though, other than the fact that they're about the same size and girth as some of those brutes in the picture.

I wish my Seraphon infantry were as big and as burly as Ironjawz...

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Dudeface wrote:
 zend wrote:
Ironbreakers are a dual kit with the Irondrakes, so you can make an all shooty army from that box.


That makes more sense then, the test just didn't seem to match the image. I appreciate the more factual response as well.


Cogsmith has a gun. So combat and ranged attacks are fulfilled.
   
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GaroRobe wrote:


Oddly enough, the cogsmith doesn't even show up under the dispossessed range. Not that it should be an issue, given that the book is a compilation of multiple factions.


Cogsmiths are ironweld now so check there.
   
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I’m happy to see that the Scourge Privateers are getting a box. Hopefully the book will be giving them some much needed love.
   
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 Overread wrote:
Well you might start with one or two boxes of a Warcry Warband - add in an allied Darkoath Warqueen or any one of a number of the Tzeentch, Khorne or Nurgle (why no Slaanesh GW?) allies. You've got a pack of warbeasts too so there's some furies and perhaps you went and got a chimera too.

That's already the ground work of building an AoS army.

Sure you're not going to be building a 1K (in AoS points) worth warband typically; just like you won't do that in Killteam.

But you'll likely pick up enough to build a 500 point force and get started trying out AoS - get enough encouragment to work your way toward a 1K Meeting Engagement force.



For the other armies its even quicker because most of them rely on one or two boxed sets of troops so you'll build up even quicker.



Like I said its the gateway product that gets you in the front door and playing with a quick purchase. The more you play the more you might buy and before you knwo it you've a few hundred points worth of models then the jump to a 500 or 1K army in AoS isn't so "omg that's so much".



As I just noted with the "missing" slaanesh, not everything is even in Warcry yet. We might well see more monsters, characters and certainly a second wave of army cards for more regular armies joining in. GW might bring Skirmish back as well as another gateway product, but so far at this point in time the marketed gateway product is Warcry.


I just don’t think GW are thinking of Warcry being the same as KT the way that we are.
Kill Team builds into 40k because it’s basically existing kits.

I think in their heads KT gets you into 40k, lore and setting wise etc. Not necessarily, oh you have the models so go big.

And in that sense Warcry to AoS is the same. It isn’t about starting the army, just starting interest in the setting etc.

As mentioned, I think the models aware all uniquely Skirmish as it were..
   
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Battletome: Cities of Sigmar isn’t just about the rules – it’s also your chance to discover the cities of the Mortal Realms in incredible detail through reams of new lore. From the spires of Tempest’s Eye to the libraries of the Collegiate Arcane, you’ll have the chance to see just what “ordinary” life in the Mortal Realms is like. With no fewer than seven short stories from acclaimed Black Library wordsmith Josh Reynolds, you can get more insights into the Cities of Sigmar than ever before.


Cities is a must buy just for this paragraph.

the seven greatest metropolises in the Mortal Realms
I think Nulahmia and a few others would dispute this

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