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gorgon wrote:BINGO! If your SO has a problem with wargaming and hasn't figured this out yet, point out your hobby is a better use of time and money than nudie bars. Wins 'em over every time.
My wife keeps complaining that I won't go with her to nudie bars! People are strange, I guess.
Hmmm, one of my Magic Buddies ended up getting dumped by his girlfriend because he wouldn't stop playing magic with me. (She called it "the nerdy stuff") Wich is a darn shame cause she was really good looking and pretty nice most of the time.
gorgon wrote:BINGO! If your SO has a problem with wargaming and hasn't figured this out yet, point out your hobby is a better use of time and money than nudie bars. Wins 'em over every time.
My wife keeps complaining that I won't go with her to nudie bars! People are strange, I guess.
My wife much prefers my geekdom to nudie bars.
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gorgon wrote:BINGO! If your SO has a problem with wargaming and hasn't figured this out yet, point out your hobby is a better use of time and money than nudie bars. Wins 'em over every time.
My wife keeps complaining that I won't go with her to nudie bars! People are strange, I guess.
My wife much prefers my geekdom to nudie bars.
My wife likes both Never been to a nudie bar though.
Ratbarf wrote:Hmmm, one of my Magic Buddies ended up getting dumped by his girlfriend because he wouldn't stop playing magic with me. (She called it "the nerdy stuff") Wich is a darn shame cause she was really good looking and pretty nice most of the time.
Sounds like he had a lucky escape. Don't care how hot the girl is, if she won't accept you as you are, they are not worth it.
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Actually i had not heard about this, but a quick google search and i am slightly worried about people so obsessed with that kind of thing they would pay $8 a download... i mean not as if the internet is not full of free porn in the first place... the links off the page to such things as 'FPS operation sex, cock and load' is raising a few eyebrows here at work.
The larping thing and sites like this make me feel i have a long way to go before i might be considered a real geek, which is a good thing
Ozymandias wrote:The basic premise is sound. Take foam weapons, get your friends, beat the sh*t out of each other. Good times
Yeah, I get that part of it too. It's kind of like NASCAR. The part that involves a weekend at the track drinking cheap beer -- I get it. The part where people get *really* into the racing for the racing...well, they might as well be from Neptune.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Sounds like he had a lucky escape. Don't care how hot the girl is, if she won't accept you as you are, they are not worth it.
I'd counter that by saying any healthy relationship involves give and take. If the girl felt neglected, good for her for dumping the guy. He prioritized a card game over the hot chick. Again...Neptune.
IMO, that's at the heart of this whole discussion. Some guys want gamer chicks because they think that means they don't have to adapt or adjust their lifestyle. IMO, you're setting yourself up for disappointment if you think that. Relationships are compromise.
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If it was because on a particular night, you might have a point there. But I suspect from the way it was written, she just didn't want her boyfriend being a bit geeky, in which case good riddance.
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I'd counter that by saying any healthy relationship involves give and take. If the girl felt neglected, good for her for dumping the guy. He prioritized a card game over the hot chick. Again...Neptune.
IMO, that's at the heart of this whole discussion. Some guys want gamer chicks because they think that means they don't have to adapt or adjust their lifestyle. IMO, you're setting yourself up for disappointment if you think that. Relationships are compromise.
But Gorg! Can't you see that gamer chicks are perfect for geeky guys? Why expand your hobbies outside of the mancave and work out to look good? Can't you see that gamer chicks are above normal girls and can accept you for who you REALLY are? Besides, lifting weights, running through neighborhoods, learning basic clothing/color theory, and showering takes too much work.
The danger with sharing hobbies is that it can be quite expensive.
A buddy of mine (who used to frequent here) and his wife are both gamers, and pretty hardcore (wargames, not rpgs). Let's just say when they go to the store or con, neither of them remembers to play the sane one. Yeah, their lead mountain makes mine look like Iowa after a rainstorm. Ridiculous. It would be bigger but he's a really fast painter.
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gorgon wrote:Umm, I guess. Personally, I never saw the appeal of competing in the tiny pool of gamer chicks (you can't tell me the LARP pool is truly deep or wide). Considering the ratios involved there (and the overall quality of female), that seems like a losing strategy to me.
Why not just clean yourself up a little and get a nice, normal girl? Seriously, put in a little effort and you'll do better in the bigger pool. Although don't talk about LARPing for a while. Maybe ever. My wife doesn't have anything against my wargaming hobby, but I suspect divorce papers would served to me if I started LARPing.
The marketing professional in me also feels compelled to tell you that "LARP" just sounds dorky. Perhaps you'd find more social acceptance with a better acronym?
Seriously, what is a normal girl? Each one of us has our own definition of normal. Girls, if you haven't bothered to notice are all normal. So are guys. Each with varied interests and freakiness. What is normal to one is odd and obscure to another. I'd say that while you don't find the appeal in LARPing, that there are plenty of others that do find the appeal. I don't LARP, and won't, as it doesn't appeal to me either, but to say it's a small pool is rediculous. The SCA is huge from what I remember and there are branches of "LARPs" all over the world.. That's hardly shallow and narrow now isn't it?
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gorgon wrote:Umm, I guess. Personally, I never saw the appeal of competing in the tiny pool of gamer chicks (you can't tell me the LARP pool is truly deep or wide). Considering the ratios involved there (and the overall quality of female), that seems like a losing strategy to me.
Why not just clean yourself up a little and get a nice, normal girl? Seriously, put in a little effort and you'll do better in the bigger pool. Although don't talk about LARPing for a while. Maybe ever. My wife doesn't have anything against my wargaming hobby, but I suspect divorce papers would served to me if I started LARPing.
The marketing professional in me also feels compelled to tell you that "LARP" just sounds dorky. Perhaps you'd find more social acceptance with a better acronym?
Seriously, what is a normal girl? Each one of us has our own definition of normal. Girls, if you haven't bothered to notice are all normal. So are guys. Each with varied interests and freakiness. What is normal to one is odd and obscure to another. I'd say that while you don't find the appeal in LARPing, that there are plenty of others that do find the appeal. I don't LARP, and won't, as it doesn't appeal to me either, but to say it's a small pool is rediculous. The SCA is huge from what I remember and there are branches of "LARPs" all over the world.. That's hardly shallow and narrow now isn't it?
A person who likes going to places with a variety of people (malls, parties, clubs, etc.), socializing with a large group of different people, has many interests with maybe a few that are more important but does not obsess over is what I personally call normal. People who obsess over a few subjects/activities, does not take care of themselves, and only socializes with a narrow group with overwhelming shared interests is not who I'd call normal.
A normal girl then might larp on some weekends and enjoy it. She won't talk about it unless the subject comes up. An abnormal girl would do this obsessively and it would be annoying to converse with her because she'll bring up the topic all the time. This is why warhams players who can only talk about their army, and redirect the conversation back to warhams even after you've attempted to talk about sports/news/politics/other hobbies, are annoying. So I guess the test is to see how good of a conversationalist the person is.
A person who likes going to places with a variety of people (malls, parties, clubs, etc.), socializing with a large group of different people, has many interests with maybe a few that are more important but does not obsess over is what I personally call normal. People who obsess over a few subjects/activities, does not take care of themselves, and only socializes with a narrow group with overwhelming shared interests is not who I'd call normal.
A normal girl then might larp on some weekends and enjoy it. She won't talk about it unless the subject comes up. An abnormal girl would do this obsessively and it would be annoying to converse with her because she'll bring up the topic all the time. This is why warhams players who can only talk about their army, and redirect the conversation back to warhams even after you've attempted to talk about sports/news/politics/other hobbies, are annoying. So I guess the test is to see how good of a conversationalist the person is.
That's the rub. your definition of normal, and my definition of normal might be completely the same, partially different, or diometrically opposed, the bottom line is whatever your definition of normal will suit your needs and you will gravitate to that group of normal and to the rest of us who don't have the same definition, you will not be normal. Then while all of us who claim we are normal, will look like distorted abnormals to you and your friends.. There is no right or wrong definition. But realize as normal as you think you are, you will still be abnormal to someone, somewhere.. That's my point..
With your story, someone who doesn't enjoy Larping would see that as abnormal, while a whole group of people who obsess about it would like to talk about it often. If you came up and started talking at max squat and bench press, they'd look at you as if you'd just stepped in dog crap and would run away.. both of you are realitively normal.. just not to each other. Like-minded people consider like-minded people to be normal. They see anyone outside their realm ass odd or not normal..
Walk into a Democratic political party and start talking about Republican ideas and see if they consider you normal.. It ain't gonna happen.
Kilkrazy wrote:If you count re-enaction as a kind of LARPing the pool is even higher.
What is re-enacting if it isn't Live Action role-play? It's live, it's action and you are replaying/roleplaying an event .. fictional or non-fictional really doesn't matter to me.. I see the civil war re-enactors as LARPers.. Now, I'm sure there is a hardcore grey coat that will challenge me to duel because I am lumping him in with those "goofy" renfair louts.. But the last civil-war re-enactment I was at (I Live in Virginia, so we have tons of historic re-enactments every year) had more people speaking the lingo and more officer to enlisted down speak than I've ever heard at any renfair..
with that in mind, if you aren't a parrothead, do you think all those margarita drinking, parrothead gear wearing, corral reef swimming, manatee preservationists are normal? does it really matter in the end? I think not. We are all odd in one way or another..
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stonefox wrote:
A person who likes going to places with a variety of people (malls, parties, clubs, etc.), socializing with a large group of different people, has many interests with maybe a few that are more important but does not obsess over is what I personally call normal. People who obsess over a few subjects/activities, does not take care of themselves, and only socializes with a narrow group with overwhelming shared interests is not who I'd call normal.
A normal girl then might larp on some weekends and enjoy it. She won't talk about it unless the subject comes up. An abnormal girl would do this obsessively and it would be annoying to converse with her because she'll bring up the topic all the time. This is why warhams players who can only talk about their army, and redirect the conversation back to warhams even after you've attempted to talk about sports/news/politics/other hobbies, are annoying. So I guess the test is to see how good of a conversationalist the person is.
That's the rub. your definition of normal, and my definition of normal might be completely the same, partially different, or diometrically opposed, the bottom line is whatever your definition of normal will suit your needs and you will gravitate to that group of normal and to the rest of us who don't have the same definition, you will not be normal. Then while all of us who claim we are normal, will look like distorted abnormals to you and your friends.. There is no right or wrong definition. But realize as normal as you think you are, you will still be abnormal to someone, somewhere.. That's my point..
With your story, someone who doesn't enjoy Larping would see that as abnormal, while a whole group of people who obsess about it would like to talk about it often. If you came up and started talking at max squat and bench press, they'd look at you as if you'd just stepped in dog crap and would run away.. both of you are realitively normal.. just not to each other. Like-minded people consider like-minded people to be normal. They see anyone outside their realm ass odd or not normal..
Walk into a Democratic political party and start talking about Republican ideas and see if they consider you normal.. It ain't gonna happen.
I know what you're trying to say. But consider that humans are meant to be social animals with certain needs, blah blah blah. Therefore I consider antisocial or asocial behavior abnormal. Being unable to talk about much about anything aside from a few narrow topics, therefore deliberately impeding social progress with new people, is why I'd classify that as abnormal.
I have enough tact to know not to talk about the gym to people who aren't interested. I know most people have enough tact to know when to talk about something interesting to both parties and not just OMG CHECK OUT MY LATEST PAINTED FIGURE AND MY FLUFF FOR THEM every single time you talked to them. It's been a while since I've seen you around and had a good conversation, but remember when I was sometimes the last one out of the GW shop? We would talk about politics or your old job or my then-nursing-major and the quirks in there or religion or some fun topic. We could hold a conversation that wasn't just about warhams. Some of the guys at the store have difficulty doing even that - nevermind girls. If they talked to you they would only talk about warhams. Every. Single. Time. They seemed like one-dimensional characters you only read about in literature or other media with stereotypes, like the soup nazi or newman from seinfeld, who seemed bland and uninteresting. You'd think there was more to them, but to be a flat, one-dimensional person doesn't seem "human" to me, much less normal.
Sure, could they be vastly interesting aside from something they're really into? Sure. But if they can only talk about that one thing and never hold a good conversation outside from it, would I ever know that? I can't read minds. I can only assume from what I know and that is: that person is abnormal. Sometimes I've been surprised and given a person a chance and find out they have some kickass hobbies outside of painting warhams figures. They ride dirtbikes or play rugby or have a mean volleyball serve. But if they don't talk about these other things and sometimes act like high-functioning autistics about one subject all the time, would I really be at fault for thinking that's all they're into and shun them for being uninteresting?
I don't think it's about like-mindedness. I think it's about being interesting enough to have good conversations instead of being a boring, one-sided sack you can classify as a stereotype. If you notice, I've never once talked about "normal people are into THIS while those nerds are into THOSE." It's about being interesting as a person.
I hear it also makes you a super-genius from Atlantis that nobody understands.
Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
Makes it harder for the carrier to interpret other people's thoughts and emotions in social situations.
I've wondered if there is a direct correlation with ASD's, Autism, ADD, ADHD, etc and the unhealthy diets that most of our children and youngun's are being bombarded with. Somewhere, I have a thesis I wrote up in my first year of college about how preservatives and additives are in direct relation with the amount of hyper activity and attention deficit syndromes. The numbers are astronomically increasing with the amount of fast food consumed and junk food consumed.
I'd rather not get on a rant about eating habits, when all we are discussing is the "normal" people.. lol
If you must know he only plays magic with the group on Fridays. (Friday night magic) and once or twice a week during lunch. He only spends about 80 dollars or less a month. Pretty much whenever he played with us she would say he was "Playin that geeky game again" and then usually pout. But he spent the rest of the time with her.
And I wouldrank her at an 8 out of ten if ten is Jessica Alba and a 1 one is passable. She was ridiculously hot for a geeks girlfriend lol.
stonefox wrote:Yep. I remember making a thread on dakka about a year ago about the whole SCA thing. The no-jabbing part might be the reason fencing isn't as helpful. Same with kendo and shomenuchi (straight overhead) swings. And yes, the weight is too much. Apart from the fact that fencing is all about more "civilized" renaissance duels with sleeker swords, the pvc+foam contraptions are often heavier than real swords. I guess it's no surprise that people think swords weighed 6-10 pounds when they really only weighed 3-4 - besides cavalry monstrosities of course.
Overall, it certainly doesn't help with the fantasy-embodiment image. "Oh I can't fight well so I'll make rules so those football playin' jocks who can wrestle and fence can't really do much with their skills." :-P
The SCA is not larp. I fight in the SCA and while they have rules about "dressing period" during events. Thet's as far as any "larping" goes. Its more about creating an atmosphere. We don't use PVC, our "swords" are made from rattan and are 2.5 to 6lbs. I don't know what No jabbing means. We can stab, thrust, punch block. SCA does allow over the head swings. Football players and Jocks do really well in the heavy lists. Football actually helps when the two forces crash into each other. Same ideas low center of gravity and lift.
While wrestling my not be allowed, there are groups that do play with the SCA that do allow it, and is a lot of fun when they let you play with them.
Fencing is well fencing.
Many larpers tag along at SCA events, but thet's not what the SCA is about, and they are not discouraged by most. So they may appear to be part of the culture.
Makes it harder for the carrier to interpret other people's thoughts and emotions in social situations.
I've wondered if there is a direct correlation with ASD's, Autism, ADD, ADHD, etc and the unhealthy diets that most of our children and youngun's are being bombarded with. Somewhere, I have a thesis I wrote up in my first year of college about how preservatives and additives are in direct relation with the amount of hyper activity and attention deficit syndromes. The numbers are astronomically increasing with the amount of fast food consumed and junk food consumed.
I'd rather not get on a rant about eating habits, when all we are discussing is the "normal" people.. lol
There is anecdotal evidence to support it, for example, when Jamie Oliver did his campaign to improve school food, the teachers reported better behaviour in the classroom after the diet in the canteen was upgraded. However, this may have been caused by placebo effect or even simply by the presence of the film crews in the schools. Apart from the problem of allowing for such effects, wide-spread experiments on childrens' diet are unethical.
Alternatively, improved medicine (to use a very broad term) may lead to higher rates of detection of such syndromes. For example, dyslexia was practically unknown in the 1950s and children who had difficulty reading and writing were simply thought to be stupid or lazy.
Methinks thou dost protest too much.. by any other name a rose is still a rose. That's like saying catsup and ketchup are different. Only someone completely immersed in said SCA would bother to try to sell a difference.
Only someone afraid that LARPers are more nerdy than SCA attendees.. Again, don't get upset about it, embrace it. It's yours, so enjoy it and who cares what anyone else thinks.. Just don't get upset if someone calls you a ninny.. Or repeats quotes from "The Holy Grail" ....
Black Knight: Okay, we'll call it a draw.
King Arthur: [Preparing to leave] Come, Patsy.
[King Arthur and Patsy ride off]
Black Knight: [calling after King Arthur] Oh! Had enough, eh? Come back and take what's coming to you, you yellow bastards! Come back here and take what's coming to you! I'll bite your legs off!
Methinks thou dost protest too much.. by any other name a rose is still a rose. That's like saying catsup and ketchup are different. Only someone completely immersed in said SCA would bother to try to sell a difference.
Only someone afraid that LARPers are more nerdy than SCA attendees.. Again, don't get upset about it, embrace it. It's yours, so enjoy it and who cares what anyone else thinks.. Just don't get upset if someone calls you a ninny.. Or repeats quotes from "The Holy Grail" ....
Black Knight: Okay, we'll call it a draw.
King Arthur: [Preparing to leave] Come, Patsy.
[King Arthur and Patsy ride off]
Black Knight: [calling after King Arthur] Oh! Had enough, eh? Come back and take what's coming to you, you yellow bastards! Come back here and take what's coming to you! I'll bite your legs off!
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Kilkrazy wrote:Asperger's Syndrome.
Makes it harder for the carrier to interpret other people's thoughts and emotions in social situations.
Yes I would not call anyone with such a condition "normal." Then again assburgers is quite common on the internets so I guess that's why many geeks have an inferiority complex when talking about why they can't carry on a sane conversation that isn't about their furry female space marines.
Yeah OK, Whatever.
He means: SCA, LARP, same difference. I guess it's like warhams and warhams40k to anyone who (rightly) doesn't care about the diff between the two. It's all toy soldiers and sweaty, balding men.
My wife keeps complaining that I won't go with her to nudie bars! People are strange, I guess.
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Never been to a nudie bar though.
