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**Deff Dread red Edition**

So did the police deal with the buggers?

**Cheese Elemental**

Sort of.

**reds8n**

Cheese Elemental wrote:. Add that to the fact that I'm a bit overweight, slow, and and weak, I don't fare too well in fights.

You're posting on a website mainly devoted to warhammer.Certain things we take as self evident truths.

Hope it all works out for you though.

**Deff Dread red Edition**

Let me guess when they came to the house no one knew anything and acted all innocent.The police didn't do anything and you were given a fine for calling em when you didn't need them.

**greenskin lynn**

t-ball bats seem fairly small and portable, one could probably trim it down a bit more to fit inside a coat.

not sure what else to recommend, never really had people mess with me much, and when people have, i've tended to start swinging with whatever i have on hand

**Frazzled**

Ghost in the Darkness wrote:Pepper Spray FTW, or go buy yourself an asp. Its an extendable stick with a steel ball on the end. so when you hit someone with it all the force is directed to a very small area. Its like a night stick on steroids. Or get a tazer and taze the gak outta them.

Pepper spray is the cheapest. Get a decent sized one. It will also be effectuive against large dogs (he said he had a little mutt-dogs need safety too).

You can spray them and leave or spray them and beat them with handy objects until they are all in the hospital or the morgue. Either works.

**smiling Assassin**

Can we get Pepper Spray in the UK?

sA

**H.B.M.C.**

LunaHound wrote:Just saying! its better then shooting someone with a gun!

Unless you shoot them in those spots with a gun!

Luna, you're a genius! I could shoot you... kiss you... meant kiss. Conclusion: Not shoot.

**reds8n**

In the United Kingdom, "Any weapon of whatever description designed or adapted for the discharge of any noxious liquid, gas or other thing" is a Prohibited Weapon, under S.5 of The Firearms Act 1968. The same act covers other prohibited weapons such as automatic firearms and rocket launchers, all of which can only be possessed by permission of the Home Secretary. Although legal for police officers, recent debates have arisen whether such a weapon should be legal for civilians as means of defensive purposes only. At present a number of legal alternative dye sprays are sold in the UK which have the effect of temporarily blinding the attacker but do not constitute noxious substances and so do not contravene this act.

So no. Thye can and have prosecuted people for having them.

That said... if you happen to be carrying a lighter and a can of deodrant....

WHAT ABOUT DEFENSIVE EQUIPMENT?

Sprays: self-defence items such as mace, pepper spray or CS gas are illegal in Britain.

Anyone carrying such a spray could be charged with possession of an offensive weapon. But police say that they have heard of women carrying hairspray in their bags as a defence.

Rape alarms: police do recommend these devices, which emit an ear-splitting blast of sound to deter muggers and attract attention.

linky

**smiling Assassin**

Why the hell are we such softies over here! I think our streets could do with a few more packing vigilantes. (Or not?)

sA

**LunaHound**

smiling Assassin wrote:Why the hell are we such softies over here! I think our streets could do with a few more packing vigilantes. (Or not?)

sA

Because you never know if the people you shot are in a gang. So unless you kill every single on of the trouble maker
or give them some magic amnesia , they'll come back next time and kill you. ( thus why i said solving this with a gun isnt so good )

**George Spiggott**

Bah! They don't sound as tough as the sharks with machineguns I beat up last week. Did I tell you I'm 7 foot tall?

**smiling Assassin**

George Spiggott wrote:Bah! They don't sound as tough as the sharks with machineguns I beat up last week. Did I tell you I'm 7 foot tall?

Vid or it never happened.

sA

**Frazzled**

Sorry. I was there the dash board cam recorded everything. Unfortunately it got wet with salt water splashing off the sharks as Spiggott grabbed one shark by the tail and used it as flail with snapping jaws. Righteously awesome, too bad we all can't see it.

**Deff Dread red Edition**

Darn!!!!!

I would so have liked to have seen that the only thing cooler would have been,Frazzled vs the Nazi Raptors.

**reds8n**

I believe Mr. Spiggott.

You can see the shark he fought here.

He ripped its throat out with his teeth.

**Frazzled**

I'm just in awe. I...I can't top someone who does a movie where a shark leaps out of the water and attacks a flying 747. Wow.

(slinks away in shame)

**reds8n**

What can compete with a film that "stars" both Lorenzo Lamas AND Debbie Gibson ?

Nothing*.

Nothing of this earth anyway...

* May not be true.

**J.Black**

I do some part-time work as a chef and often have to carry my equipment home with me from work, at night, to scary parts of Manchester. Clearly it would take for too long for me to unlock my knife box to retrieve one in case of attack, and impractical to be carrying one of them in my jacket. There is, however, one kitchen implement that can be carried freely in my pocket and won't break the law.
The Blowtorch.
I have never had to use this (and really wouldn't want to either) but i can just imagine the chavs faces if someone pulled one of these from their pocket. If someone gets in your face too much, or pulls a blade, you can melt their face with chemical fire.

**model collector**

I've only had problems with chavs once before. There mindset is clinically insane. Your going somewhere in life so I'll beat you up. One of them ran at me with something hard, I sent a sidekick into it and it flew out of his hand and hit one of his cronies in the face. If your going to learn a martial art I'd suggest Tang soo Do Moo duk Wan.

**Frazzled**

model collector wrote:I've only had problems with chavs once before. There mindset is clinically insane. Your going somewhere in life so I'll beat you up. One of them ran at me with something hard, I sent a sidekick into it and it flew out of his hand and hit one of his cronies in the face. If your going to learn a martial art I'd suggest Tang soo Do Moo duk Wan.

I'd suggest the tau of .45ACP myself, but thats personal preference.

**George Spiggott**

reds8n wrote:What can compete with a film that "stars" both Lorenzo Lamas AND Debbie Gibson ?

The Debbie Gibson or another one?

**M_Stress**

Deff Dread red Edition wrote:The gun won't help and plus the police could then charge you with somethig like assualt with a deadly weapon.

QFT

once in jail, you will have the chance to be "bullied" by criminal...

leave the gun at home.

**J.Black**

AS far as martial arts go, i'd only ever recommend brazilian ju-jitsu. It's basically wrestling with an emphasis on bone-breaking. If someone is going to try to kick your head in, you have to do the same back.

Failing that, run away. Scattering calthrops behind you ftw.

**yani**

Do as Camoron says and 'hug a hoody'.
Seriously though I would suggest changing the way you walk. Your walk gives away a lot about you. It shows how confident you are, how phsically able you are and your role in society.It is subconciously recognised by allmost everyone you meet.
Put your shoulders back and set them wide, keep your head up and your walk apears more confident. You should try to adopt a different persona to what you really are.
I am speaking as a AmDram though but its what works for me.

**Golden Eyed Scout**

Frazzled wrote:
model collector wrote:I've only had problems with chavs once before. There mindset is clinically insane. Your going somewhere in life so I'll beat you up. One of them ran at me with something hard, I sent a sidekick into it and it flew out of his hand and hit one of his cronies in the face. If your going to learn a martial art I'd suggest Tang soo Do Moo duk Wan.

I'd suggest the tau of .45ACP myself, but thats personal preference.

Why not go all in? .44 magnum. Feeling lucky, punk? Well, do ya?

**Frazzled**

Golden Eyed Scout wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
model collector wrote:I've only had problems with chavs once before. There mindset is clinically insane. Your going somewhere in life so I'll beat you up. One of them ran at me with something hard, I sent a sidekick into it and it flew out of his hand and hit one of his cronies in the face. If your going to learn a martial art I'd suggest Tang soo Do Moo duk Wan.

I'd suggest the tau of .45ACP myself, but thats personal preference.

Why not go all in? .44 magnum. Feeling lucky, punk? Well, do ya?

No, you pretty much need a trench coat for a .44, and the recoil is b...Oh wait you're not being serious

**mcfly**

Epic gun accident.

And there is a .44 in the movie in the scene before this one.

**Frazzled**

WRONGGGG!!! That was a .357 (I think, wait I could be wrong).

**mcfly**

Frazzled wrote:WRONGGGG!!! That was a .357 (I think, wait I could be wrong).

Here's what I found.

It's big. It's bulky. It's heavy, impractical, and loud. It looks really, really cool. Sometimes, it's got a nickel finish, or better yet, gold. It's the Hand Cannon.

Which type of gun fills this role varies by time period. Back in the '70s it was a .357 or .44 Magnum revolver, like the Colt Python. Eventually, automatics firing the same rounds were introduced. But the modern successor to the crown of most ridiculously oversized handgun is the Israeli Military Industries Desert Eagle in .50 Action Express. Bigger and more powerful handguns exist, but they don't have the same media presence and generally look much less cool. And if bullets just don't cut it, they can always use the M79 grenade launcher, which can be (clumsily) fired one-handed.