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Mastiff wrote: Wolves have much smaller chests that never drag on the ground. They're powerful but lean beasts, all muscle and teeth.


To be fair, I'd always assumed that Fenrisian Wolves weren't actually just big wolves, but were instead a wolf-like creature native to Fenris. In which case it doesn't actually have to (and shouldn't) look exactly like a wolf.

The extra bulk could also be necessary to hold up that amount of mass.

That being said, I hate it. The wolf just looks silly, the rider only marginally less so, not least because the wolf he's riding is large enough to put him far enough off the ground that he's never actually going to be hitting anything with those claws, even oversized as they are.

I'm willing to hold off judgement on the tripping-over, crying dude and Mr Skippy until I see the actual models. The pics don't do anything for me though.

Love Njal, though, and the plastics look fantastic.

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I don't even KNOW anymore.

Hahaahaa, no thank you GW (although I do like Njal). I'll just keep using my old SW metals and convert the rest.

the tripping-over, crying dude and Mr Skippy


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Symbio Joe wrote:Is it just me or turned lightning claws from big to goofy big?


Supposedly, theirs are called "wolf claws" so they're altogether different. They're supposed to allow the Space Wolf to reroll either to-hit or to-wound.

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I've always had a problem with lightning claws, at least on power armored figures, because they look like someone just took a powerfist and added blades to it. They don't differentiate the two weapons visually enough. I don't really mind on Terminators, I suppose, but on normal marines a big honking fist looks like a powerfist, claws or not. I'd rather them resemble some sort of bulked up, armored Vega-style claw.

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Railguns wrote:I've always had a problem with lightning claws, at least on power armored figures, because they look like someone just took a powerfist and added blades to it. They don't differentiate the two weapons visually enough. I don't really mind on Terminators, I suppose, but on normal marines a big honking fist looks like a powerfist, claws or not. I'd rather them resemble some sort of bulked up, armored Vega-style claw.


the reason they look this way is because Lightning Claws used to be Strength 8. They were powerfists with bonuses basically.

THE HORUS HERESY: Emprah: Hours, go reconquer the galaxy so there can be a new golden age. Horus: But I should be Emprah, bawwwwww! Emprah: Magnus, stop it with the sorcery. Magnus: But I know what's best, bawwwwww! Emprah: Horus, tell Russ to bring Magnus to me because I said so. Horus: Emprah wants you to kill Magnus because he said so. Russ: Fine. Emprah's always right. Plus Ole Red has already been denounced as a traitor and I never liked him anyway. Russ: You're about to die, cyclops! Magnus: O noes! Tzeentch, I choose you! Bawwwww! Russ: Ah well. Now to go kill Horus. Russ: Rowboat, how have you not been doing anything? Guilliman: . . . I've been writing a book. Russ: Sigh. Let's go. Guilliman: And I fought the Word Bearers! Horus: Oh shi--Spess Puppies a'comin? Abbadon: And the Ultramarines, sir. Horus: Who? Anyway, this looks bad. *enter Sanguinis* What are you doing here? Come to join me? Sanguinius: *throws self on Horus's power claws* Alas, I am undone! When you play Castlevania, remember me! *enter Emprah* Emprah: Horus! So my favorite son killed my favorite daughter! Horus: What about the Lion? Emprah: Never liked her. Horus: No one does. Now prepare to die! *mortally wounds Emprah*Emprah: Au contraire, you dick. *kills Horus* Dorn: Okay, now I just plug this into this and . . . okay, it works! Emprah? Hellooooo? Jonson: I did nothing! Guilliman: I did more nothing that you! Jonson: Nuh-uh. I was the most worthless! Guilliman: Have you read my book? Dorn: No one likes that book. Khan: C'mon guys. It's not that bad. Dorn: I guess not. Russ: You all suck. Ima go bring the Emprah back to life.
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Demogerg wrote:
Railguns wrote:I've always had a problem with lightning claws, at least on power armored figures, because they look like someone just took a powerfist and added blades to it. They don't differentiate the two weapons visually enough. I don't really mind on Terminators, I suppose, but on normal marines a big honking fist looks like a powerfist, claws or not. I'd rather them resemble some sort of bulked up, armored Vega-style claw.


the reason they look this way is because Lightning Claws used to be Strength 8. They were powerfists with bonuses basically.


was that 1st or 2nd edition?
   
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What ?!?!! No new Ragnar sculpt ???

The more I see it, the more I hate the wolf / wolf-rider model ... does he use the bones in his trophy rack to reward the wolf for a fancy prance in front of the judges ?!?!!

I do like the plastic sprues, though !!



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Demogerg wrote:
Railguns wrote:I've always had a problem with lightning claws, at least on power armored figures, because they look like someone just took a powerfist and added blades to it. They don't differentiate the two weapons visually enough. I don't really mind on Terminators, I suppose, but on normal marines a big honking fist looks like a powerfist, claws or not. I'd rather them resemble some sort of bulked up, armored Vega-style claw.


the reason they look this way is because Lightning Claws used to be Strength 8. They were powerfists with bonuses basically.


I'm not a fan of the powerfists either. They may have been strength 8 at one time, but that's a gap of ten years between the rule being changed to str 4, and this configuration (which I think started with the multi-part plastic SM commander kit a couple of years ago).

I think of lightning claws as a fast weapon, rather than a powerful weapon.

   
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Neat Terminators but the helmetless red head is just creepy looking. He looks like Quintin Tarantino and Carrot Top's unholy love child.

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It was second edition.

when the changeover from 2nd to 3rd happened I quit the game, and I recently started playing again with 5th edition.

so to me at least, the "last" edition lightning claws were strength 8, D3 damage, -5 save modifier, allowed the user to Parry, and gave you either 8+D3+D20+D6 armor penetration with a single hit, or combining 2 or more hits to deal 8+3D6+D20 armor penetration.

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insaniak wrote:
Mastiff wrote: Wolves have much smaller chests that never drag on the ground. They're powerful but lean beasts, all muscle and teeth.


To be fair, I'd always assumed that Fenrisian Wolves weren't actually just big wolves, but were instead a wolf-like creature native to Fenris. In which case it doesn't actually have to (and shouldn't) look exactly like a wolf.

The extra bulk could also be necessary to hold up that amount of mass.

That being said, I hate it...


I hear what you're saying about the alien creature not being a true wolf and deserving of some leeway, but that's why I was so impressed with Goodwin's Cold Ones. Even though they're fictional beasts, the extra time and research really paid off. I can look at a Cold One and can believe it's based on a real creature. The fenrisian wolf just defies logic.

I sure like that Hordes(?) wolf though. The GW wolf looks like components thrown together from a Biological Bitz Box... a head from one creature, a chest from another, even the legs don't quite fit. And of course, My Little Pony's tail. The Hordes wolf isn't perfect, but it's believable as a whole.

Animals are incredibly difficult to sculpt without good reference, and have always been a weak spot for GW (with a few excellent exceptions).

   
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In defense of the dude with twin LC on foot he's a much better model in the flesh, (and its not new, has been around since GD uk last year).
   
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Nice job GW, way to make a range of models so silly looking, i crave the old Phoniex Lords. All of em except for the rune priest are Fugly, and just dramatically silly. garbage Gw, garbage

   
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I think the wolf could have worked, before adding in the steroids:



...but geez, that's a whooooole lotta dremel-work to fix...

   
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Yeah, that's much better. Though it isn't the the chest that reminds me of a lolcat.

It also reminds me of this, to a disturbing degree...



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Now extend the nose on the wolfie and we might have a winner.
   
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In the words of Lumberg from Office Space......Ummmm...........Yeahhhhhh.........I'm gonna go ahead and Uhhh.... disagree with GW here....Ummkayyy


Hopefully the same sculpter doing these things aran't the same ones doing Dark Eldar or there will be another 10 years of bad looking evil elves to look at.

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Mastiff, you are my hero.

so, dremel the chest down, and cut the legs a little shorter.

I may actually buy this model now....

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I see I'm not the only one who saved that picture, Dogma. Good taste.

The wolf has a big puppy face, not a sleek wolf face. those things look vicious when they're happy, not like happy puppies that are trying to put on an angry face but just make everyone turn and say "wook at da widdle puppy! Youw're just a big, fluffy wuvvable cyber puppy aren't ywou? Yes you are! Yes you ACK!"

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Some of those heads are downright awful!!!

The wolf rider is way too eighties metal album cover and the wolf looks like a lol cat.

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Not sure if its been mentioned but how does Canis hold the reins on that wolf? Couldn't the bloody big lightning claws get in the way?

I do like the Terminators though, can't wait to get the pre release samples!

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wargames_empire wrote:Not sure if its been mentioned but how does Canis hold the reins on that wolf? Couldn't the bloody big lightning claws get in the way?

I do like the Terminators though, can't wait to get the pre release samples!


I take it you've never ridden a horse... You can steer a decently broken horse with just pressure from your heals or you inner thighs...
the rains are usually tied up on or around a "horn" on the from of the Saddle so as to be out of the way...

How doe one fire a long rifle on horse back... the same way.... or long reins in one hand...


The Wolf guard Termies look great...








 
   
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Yeah, Real Men don't need reins...

Re the puppy-like wolf head - it _is_ a puppy, you should see how big they are when they're grown up!

I really like the sprue, the only puzzle is that it seems to contain no Vehicle bits at all, I'd have expected at least a few icons to stick on Rhino doors etc (the old SW sprue had a couple). A mad optimist might wonder whether a separate SW vehicle sprue is coming...?
   
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IT'S A SPACE MARINE RIDING A WOLF.

WHAT PART OF THE ABOVE SENTENCE SOUNDS RIDICULOUS?

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Why is it that every time I look at that wolf model I start singing, "Where there's a whip <crack>, there's a way. Where there's a whip <crack>, there's a way..." ?

And if you get that reference, you're a sad human being.

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The whole thing....
   
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Well I have never been a Space Wolf player and these miniatures are certainly not going to persuade me to become one. They look far too cartoony and the one riding the wolf is just plain silly (I know the irony of that last coment considering I play Orks!)

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