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Wonderful plastics - do we know whether they're just the standard sprues plus the all-singing all-dancing SW sprue, or are they new recut SW-specific versions?

Delephont wrote:I'm just bored with their standard fair, the ounching the fist into the air, the overly large bodies, armour that is anatomically impossible (have you seen the gap between the legs of a terminator!!!) and I just wonder what the sculptors think when they knock this stuff out? Do they stand back and say "yeah, we nailed it this time" or are they critical of their own work and hate working for GW and its ideal on how a body should be?

This is how GW wants their miniatures to look. It's a conscious decision. If you don't like it, fine, buy something else.

Delephont wrote:I could understand this level of sculpting when GW first started out, but when you look at what other companies are doing, not to mention independants like Hasslefree, and you just have to wonder if the market is blind, or is this what people want to paint and play with?

The quality of GW miniatures is very high. I challenge you to find better plastic miniature kits outside of military model ranges. You're simply mistaking your preferences for some holy grail of "correct sculpting". How can you play Infinity and say GW makes goofy models when half the infinity range is just as goofy, if for different reasons?

And really, I think people like to cry Apocalypse for no other reason than being bored. 3 mediocre metal models and GW is "going down the drain". It's actually fun to hear to this...

This is how GW wants their miniatures to look. It's a conscious decision. If you don't like it, fine, buy something else...

The quality of GW miniatures is very high. I challenge you to find better plastic miniature kits outside of military model ranges. You're simply mistaking your preferences for some holy grail of "correct sculpting". How can you play Infinity and say GW makes goofy models when half the infinity range is just as goofy, if for different reasons?

Bull-puckey. Some of of their minis are very high quality, yes. But they've had a rotating stable of sculptors for over 25 years with varying degrees of skill. Jes Goodwin and Brian Nelson are consistantly good. Some of the other sculptors? Hit and miss. To say that their quality is always good or correct is overly generous.

You don't even need to compare these models to other companies to say that the quality is mediocre. Compare them to GW's own models and you'll see that there's a lot of generic fist pumping and bland posing going on here.

The new Wolves are up for preorder at Wayland Games.

I think these may tempt me away from my Ultramarines for a while...

Mastiff wrote:

This is how GW wants their miniatures to look. It's a conscious decision. If you don't like it, fine, buy something else...

The quality of GW miniatures is very high. I challenge you to find better plastic miniature kits outside of military model ranges. You're simply mistaking your preferences for some holy grail of "correct sculpting". How can you play Infinity and say GW makes goofy models when half the infinity range is just as goofy, if for different reasons?

Bull-puckey. Some of of their minis are very high quality, yes. But they've had a rotating stable of sculptors for over 25 years with varying degrees of skill. Jes Goodwin and Brian Nelson are consistantly good. Some of the other sculptors? Hit and miss. To say that their quality is always good or correct is overly generous.

You don't even need to compare these models to other companies to say that the quality is mediocre. Compare them to GW's own models and you'll see that there's a lot of generic fist pumping and bland posing going on here.

Well said.

I remember many times when a favourite army has been put on hold for a few years due a sculptural nosedive. I totally agree about Nelson and Goodwin; they are beyond par and the others are still way off in terms of consistency.

Still, it's nice to see Marines getting some grief for once, although SW players have my sympathies.

I am not really loving the wolf. For the guy who said it looked Warmachine Over the Top









I think this looks better. That wolf has fat rolls. It looks more like my 10 year old lab shepherd mix.

Just mho.

So, is playing Space Wolves the 40k equivalent of wearing a 3-wolf t-shirt?

Not sure if this has been posted, if it has then you get it again.

Awesome, and my guess would be the box has 2 of those in it right?
Edit:
Am i being blind or is the melta/flamer missing from that sprue?

Dont ask me
i just stole it from the GW site lol, i guess it hasnt been posted yet?

Nice pics!

I'm sure some enterprising soul will do a parts breakdown of that plastic sprue, right?

Right?

That dude on the wolf remind me of austin powers...

WOLFS WITH FREEKIN LAZERS ON THEIR HEADS

Interesting to see double-sided Chainswords in those plastics.

I have to admit, I'm with (apparently) quite a few here. The metals look pretty mediocre at best, with a very few exceptions.

No temptation there for me to pick up a new army...

Vale,

JohnS

Alph, is this one of the few times you dont see wolf pics being posted and lock a thread mate?


Breakdown from what i can see -

Frost blade x1
Thunder hammer x1
L. claws (1 pair)
Power fist x1
Plasma pistol x3
Plasma gun x1
Power axe x1
Storm shield x1
Bolter x2
Bolter with arm x3
Bolst pistol arm x4
Chainsword x4

Legs x5
Body (front) x6
normal body (back) x5
Wolf cape body (back) x1
Head x22!
Shoulder pad x15

Random items and misc things. Xalot

Sirius42 wrote:Awesome, and my guess would be the box has 2 of those in it right?
Edit:
Am i being blind or is the melta/flamer missing from that sprue?

1) Correct. Two per box is expected, since it makes 10 guys. No, you are not blind, the sprue has 3 plasma pistols, a plasma gun, and no melta or flamer. To the Space Marine Sprues, Robin!!!

I'm not going to a breakdown, but I did stare at these long and hard today. 5 leg sets, 6 torsos, 5 backpacks, 5 bolters, several back totems, two front pieces (crossed daggers, and a shield piece with an attached dagger - middle right side, next to the single torso), 1 storm bolter, 13 unique shoulder pads, 4 chainswords, BPs, 1 pair of Wolf Claws, one frostblade/power weapon, a shield, that awesome hammer, the two-handed axe, and plenty of heads, with a huge variety of facial and cranial hair, plenty with beards. Only 2 or so heads had bionics, two were specifically for Wolf Scouts. Some of the bits are incredible, and some are not so great, but overall it's a great kit. There will be lots and lots of heads left over.

The chests are quite good, which is what makes me happiest.

And the art in the book is the best I've seen from the team, with the happy addition of lots of baroque Adrian Smith art. I'm biased on that end, but the art is really special, and there is a LOT of it.

Can't wait for the release.

Did the book have any pics of other new character models (aside from stormcaller, canis and the loki wannabe)?

No, it did not. The new character sculpts were Lukas, Canis, and Njal. The other characters were all the old Goodwin sculpts.

Dang, thats lame, was really hopeful for a new ragnar, logans ok though he could be better, as is ulrik. I was also hoping for generic character minis to surface.

I reckon we are gonna see a few jugger (de chaosified) to rep that wolf guy..

Heavygear wrote:I am not really loving the wolf. For the guy who said it looked Warmachine Over the Top

That's so much better As I said in another thread, I don't think the concept of a Marine on a giant wolf would be attracting so much derision if they'd produced something closer to this.

Anti-Mag wrote:Just stopped laughing.

These models are hilarious. I don't know how anyone can put them on the table and not get laughed at. The guy with the twin lightning claws looks like he's having a very nasty trip. Beware, space logs can bring down the mightiest warriors.

As the wolf... how did this get through quality control?! Re-name the codex Space Wolves (and the Masters Of The Universe!!) and it'll all make sense.

Brilliant; that's made me laugh for a good ten minutes now.

Haha,

The guy riding the wolf seems to be a pretty ludicrous model without the cat/bear/wolf (half cat, half bear, half wolf...) he's riding. Actually I thought of "Pick of Destiny" and the bad mushrooms trip Jack Black has when I saw this.

I read in the WD last year how Jes Goodwin did a lot of research to get the DE Cold Ones just right; sculpting the skeleton and muscles for an accurate understanding of the reptile physiology. I picked upthe box just for the joy of painting well-sculpted beasts.

I know what you mean, I have that WD (it's one of the only two I ever bought) and I really liked that article and how he described the process. And boy do they look great as a result, they look like real fething dinosaurs, not those slowed whatever the hell scaly things the Lizardmen ride to battle on...

Well that sprue is excellent. It really is jam packed full of stuff. Hopefully my friend who is going to collect Space Wolves will let me take a couple of bits to make my two Deathwatch Space Wolves look a little more 'wolfy'.

Regardless of a bad sculpt here or there(I'm actually not a fan of all the mohawks) I'm still EXTREMELY pumped about this release!!

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DAMN! I wish I hadn't spent all that cash on IG now. Time to start saving up for these bad boys. Space Vikings are pure win.

Necros wrote:How does the guy on the cat wolf thing grab the reins without slicing it's head off?

Carefully.


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His Master's Voice wrote:I challenge you to find better plastic miniature kits outside of military model ranges. You're simply mistaking your preferences for some holy grail of "correct sculpting".

Amen.

Necros wrote:How does the guy on the cat wolf thing grab the reins without slicing it's head off?

It looks like the reigns are attached to his codpiece. So yeah.

Mastiff wrote:You don't even need to compare these models to other companies to say that the quality is mediocre. Compare them to GW's own models and you'll see that there's a lot of generic fist pumping and bland posing going on here.

I was talking about the plastics not the metals, which, admittedly, look bad. And, what's worse, non salvageable.

That doesn't bother me overtly. I'll just kitbash and convert my Loki or Canis.

Don't you know the cat wolf rider holds on with his lesser known special attribute, adamantium thighs.