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As someone with terrible eyesight, and a wife that doesn't want a gun in the house I suggest some sort of medieval melee weapon for your home protection needs. Anything larger than a pistol is impractical for home defense and will really interfere with your situational awareness after the first shot. A nice mace, sword or hand axe is maneuverable and will only damage things that you intend to hit. Friendly fire just doesn't happen when your attacks can't penetrate walls and doors.

Another advantage of a quality melee weapon is that you'll never have to reload . This is especially useful during the zombie apocalypse. You also don't have to worry about forgetting the safety when there's a crashing sound in the kitchen at 3AM. And the final reason I'll provide- when your woman complains about your weapon of choice, you can always point out that practicing with it keeps you in shape. It really is just exercise equipment that you would be able to protect yourself with if the need arose.

I admit none of this will help you get a gun, but wouldn't you rather have a more elegant weapon anyways?

Are you serious?

If you have bad eyesight I suggest a flamethrower.

Even if you don't hit the intruder they will usually run away as quickly as possible.

Kilkrazy wrote:If you have bad eyesight I suggest a flamethrower.

Even if you don't hit the intruder they will usually run away as quickly as possible.

yea!

Are you an irrational person? Maybe if you turn the guilt on she might relent.
For example, I wanted a crossbow, my boyfriend said no way. I offerd to get him a crossbow, again no way, so i cryed I said if he thought i was so irrisponsible then i shouldnt be allowed to do anything with anything considerd dangerouse.
after 2 weeks of not making cups of tea because the water was so hot i might burn people or cooking because the oven was dangerouse. Anything i could make sound deadly i did. Choking hazord was the one that sealed the deal for me, i dnt think it will work for you though
In the end i got my crossbow

I dont see the point in having a gun either.. if you aint gonna hunt with it. And gak, i like guns! But..i dont see the point in having one.

Roze wrote:Are you an irrational person? Maybe if you turn the guilt on she might relent.

Not really good long term though. You can cry, moan and bitch only so much before the other person just gets fed up and leaves. Or hits you. One or the other...

Or shoots you, if one of you has a gun or crossbow in the house

I would agree with some of the people posting here about keeping a gun in your local club/range (I am not sure what the setup you have is in the states, as I am from the UK - damn you dakka flag! Traitor!).

If you really want to progress to keeping one in your house, you will need to bring your GF in on the act slowly. You also have to be prepared for rejection no matter how much you try to get her into shooting.

Also, if she can see you are serious about shooting and are using the range a lot, that may go some way to convincing her to have one in the house. But again, I have to say that I agree with what others have posted about not really needing a gun in the house.

Pft, I'm the one with the crossbow. If he'd have agreed to us both getting one i wouldn't have had to moan in the first place. Then no problem at all,
Although You could suggest a trial period. Get the gun and teach her about it, after 6 month she still isn't happy then get rid of it. Or claim to get rid of it...what ever works.

Roze wrote:Are you an irrational person? Maybe if you turn the guilt on she might relent.
For example, I wanted a crossbow, my boyfriend said no way. I offerd to get him a crossbow, again no way, so i cryed I said if he thought i was so irrisponsible then i shouldnt be allowed to do anything with anything considerd dangerouse.
after 2 weeks of not making cups of tea because the water was so hot i might burn people or cooking because the oven was dangerouse. Anything i could make sound deadly i did. Choking hazord was the one that sealed the deal for me, i dnt think it will work for you though
In the end i got my crossbow

I'm thinking that last statement had the desired effect.

Seriously I don't get the "I asked my...whatever." We have a certain dollar amount. Above the dollar amount-yea its a decision. Below the dolar amount the question doesn't get asked.*

*And thats why you have a separate credit card.

Yeah my Crossbow was £600, it was all my cash for about 5 month and some of his...which is why i asked. Other things i tend not to

Roze wrote:Yeah my Crossbow was £600, it was all my cash for about 5 month and some of his...which is why i asked. Other things i tend not to

Now I understand. Agreed, 500 pounds (don't have the symbol to key over sorry) would definitely fall into the need to talk about area.

Frazzled wrote:

Roze wrote:Yeah my Crossbow was £600, it was all my cash for about 5 month and some of his...which is why i asked. Other things i tend not to

Now I understand. Agreed, 500 pounds (don't have the symbol to key over sorry) would definitely fall into the need to talk about area.

In other news, The zombie apocalypse now has a new safehouse

Ok so as the lovely Frazzled says, if it's coming out of your money get what ever you like
sounds fair to me

@Frazzled - You are SO butch!

@Roze - you don't sound mature enough to own a weapon, sorry. You CRIED? It sounds like you stamped your feet and threw a tantrum 'til you got what you wanted. I would have told you to 'jog on'.

Gwar! wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

Roze wrote:Yeah my Crossbow was £600, it was all my cash for about 5 month and some of his...which is why i asked. Other things i tend not to

Now I understand. Agreed, 500 pounds (don't have the symbol to key over sorry) would definitely fall into the need to talk about area.

In other news, The zombie apocalypse now has a new safehouse

Vampire apocalypse too!

Frazzled wrote:Are you serious?

I thought I was, but now I realize I was just rationalizing. Who am I kidding? I'd love a gun. Bad eyesight just means I need a shotgun or something else where 'close' counts.

Gitzbitah wrote:

Frazzled wrote:Are you serious?

I thought I was, but now I realize I was just rationalizing. Who am I kidding? I'd love a gun. Bad eyesight just means I need a shotgun or something else where 'close' counts.

How bad? Do you have corrective lenses getting you up to 20/50 equivalent? then you should be good.

FYI a shotgun in house distance is going to have a minimal spread in the 2-3in range. Thats better than a pistol and it will put the BG down.

A pistol has more bullets though = more chances to hit.

Guns are for pansies. Don't be a pansie, take up Kung Fu :p

Kilkrazy wrote:A pistol has more bullets though = more chances to hit.

Whut? A clip of Buckshot is a lot more "bullets" than a 9mm clip

Not if you miss.

Kilkrazy wrote:A pistol has more bullets though = more chances to hit.

This is true big KK.

Of course, it generally takes 2-4 center mass hits with a pistol to stop a threat, depending on pistol type. the FT Hood terrorist took 4 9mms. Pistols are also better in maneuvering inside a house vs. shotgun or carbine. A rifle is right out. unless its a Martini Henry of course. Coolness is always mandated with a Martini Henry.


A shotgun with a center mass hit is going to stop everything short of a grizzly, and maybe a grizzly. I don't know the stats on ticked off grizzly and the odds of ticking off gentle Ben are too slight for me to worry about. I do know safari escort would often have 12 gauges and viewed them as excellent to stop a lion that got up on them.

Ah, women. If you play your cards right you could make this issue of control, which it basically is since she's being irrational and unwilling to compromise, in your favor. She's trying to see if she can exercise command over you (human nature) and if you give in it'll send ya on the path of looking less like a man and instead look weak which can make you look unattractive.

On the issue of gun ownership in general; like owning/driving cars and pumping out babies I don't think everyone should be able to have one but I'm still glad we have the option to do so. Quite frankly though I don't trust people behind the wheel and I trust people even less when it comes to weapons and raising new members of the world. All of these areas share something in common: basically anyone is allowed to do it even though they're areas of life that demand responsibility, courtesy, and awareness..qualities that many people seem to lack.

First, thing we live in dangerous times, no matter what the Gov says, and people need to defend themselves. With that said, the best control is education. It's natural to be afraid of something one does not understand so the best thing IMO is to educate. Show that guns are a tool, and there are proper ways to handle tools.

Take her out to a firing range, have her work hands on with it. Educate.

@ red:
Your kidding right? Do I have to blatently point out everything to you people? sheesh

Alternatively, shock therapy works wonders.

Go to Compton. Drop her off with a choice of this:


or this:

Unicorns are magical beasts with the ability to destroy evil creatures. I'd consider them quite a bit better for protection than some measly firearm.

(They're also invisible if you're not a virgin, so they can like, sneak up on you, and BAM! Impaled!)

Albatross wrote:@Frazzled - You are SO butch!

@Roze - you don't sound mature enough to own a weapon, sorry. You CRIED? It sounds like you stamped your feet and threw a tantrum 'til you got what you wanted. I would have told you to 'jog on'.

LOL i did, and i got my crossbow. How's your crossbow looking?

Dunno Frazz, that porcelain pony is pretty fething scary. LOL.

I think if you walked through Compton with that in your hand and no other weapon you'd get mad respect. Who's gonna feth with someone man enough to only arm his or herself with a porcelain pony?




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No offense Albatross but she probably would have thanked you for telling her to "jog off" and still gotten her crossbow. LOL.

Fateweaver wrote:Dunno Frazz, that porcelain pony is pretty fething scary. LOL.

I think if you walked through Compton with that in your hand and no other weapon you'd get mad respect. Who's gonna feth with someone man enough to only arm his or herself with a porcelain pony?

The guy with the Mac 10?