Lord-Loss Genestealer Game 1-GAME OVER, GENESTEALERS CLAIM VICTORY.

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**Gornall**

OOC:: I don't think we're quite out of the random voting stage as we haven't heard from everyone yet. Vulkan is still ignoring my vote on him and EF just joined the game for LotGs. That's just me though...

**Thor665**

((OOC - I never said the random voting stage was definitely over - I simply asked airman a question about his random vote at this particular stage. I will add that hearing from everyone has no bearing on when random voting is or is not over in my opinion, though I do think we've now seen at least one post from everyone playing.

Also, you now have 666 posts - you are clearly a Chaos loving traitor.))

**Gornall**

OOC:: Oh noez!!!

**Thor665**

((OOC - that's weird - now you have 667. I must have read wrong. I retract my accusation.))

**Gornall**

OOC:: 669... you are hallucinating... which is a SURE sign of chaos infestation!

EDIT: I fail at counting.

**Emperors Faithful**

Thor665 wrote:

Emperors Faithful wrote:A lowly scribe speaks up from the corner. "Out of all of you, it seems that Thor knows the most about this situation. Too much. Almost as if he's done this kind of thing before..."

((OOC - I'm going to presume this is a random vote as well since otherwise it is utterly senseless. I would repeat my advice to airman to you as well in this case, though since you are just hopping in it's slightly less off putting. If this is a serious vote just let me know and I'll actually respond to it.))

My, my. Quite a touchy response there to a mere 'random vote'. I wonder...

**VictorVonTzeentch**

Mekboy wrote:
Vulkan_He'stan wrote:sorry i havent posted in a while internet went down

vote: mekboy he seems sespicious

Care to mention why you find me so suspicious?

Your eagerness to jump on the bandwagon seems to indicate you may have hidden motives.

And you, Brother Stynier, you've revoted for me rather quickly. A sudden change of mind, perhaps? Or maybe something much more sinister?

I explained why I voted for you once more, it seems that no one else was willing to vote for you in order to question you, so I placed my vote back. This upset people, as did taking my vote off of you, like I have stated this game is rigged.

**SagesStone**

OOC: It seems so. How much longer do we have in this day phase?

**Gornall**

Everyone, don't be discouraged. Given our dire situation, it's not unreasonable to be suspicious of one another. We simply must avoid a mob mentality and make reasoned decisions.

Vulkan... what say you of my vote against you?

**Lord-Loss**

Ye Third Voting Summary.

Thor665-(1)Emperors Faithful
N0t_u-
Gornall-
Airman-(1)Thor665
Mekboy-(2)BrotherStynier, Vulkan He'stan
Arheiner-
BrotherStynier-(1)Airman
Vulkan_He'stan-(1)Gornall
Emperors Faithful-

With 9 people alive, its 5 to Lynch.

**Thor665**

Emperors Faithful wrote:My, my. Quite a touchy response there to a mere 'random vote'. I wonder...

Personally I don't think I was being touchy. I said as anything but a random vote it was poor and asked you if you meant it as a serious vote (to which you apparently did not)

Very useful second comment though.

We have 3 people not voting, that is not helping our situation. We need a few more people feeling some actual pressure to get some more conversation going. I also didn't care for how he hopped on the Mekboy vote without bothering to explain anything or to even so much as nod in Gornall's direction.

Unvote airman
Vote Vulkan_He'stan

**Arheiner**

Vote: Vulkan_He'stan

Not a random vote or jumping on the bandwagon (as such), I'm just trying to add more pressure on him to explain his vote on Mekboy.

**airman**

UNVOTE: BrotherStynier

**Lord-Loss**

Ye Fourth Voting Summary.

Thor665-(1)Emperors Faithful
N0t_u-
Gornall-
Airman-
Mekboy-(2)BrotherStynier, Vulkan He'stan
Arheiner-
BrotherStynier-
Vulkan_He'stan-(3)Gornall, Thor665, Arheiner
Emperors Faithful-

With 9 people alive, its 5 to Lynch.

If anyone would like me to do the Voting Summaries more often then I will.

**Emperors Faithful**

@Thor665: At first it was (mostly) random, but now...

Yes, that was a fairly touchy response. You swiftly decried my vote as completely random and having no bearing in a serious manner. I would like to know why.

**Thor665**

Emperors Faithful wrote:@Thor665: At first it was (mostly) random, but now...

Yes, that was a fairly touchy response. You swiftly decried my vote as completely random and having no bearing in a serious manner. I would like to know why.

Allow me to quote some of you back to yourself.

"You swiftly decried my vote as completely random"
"At first it was (mostly) random"

You described your own vote as random - how can I be decrying it for coming to the same conclusion?

Your second point was that I had said it had "no bearing in a serious manner." This is untrue because what I actually said was that "I'm going to presume this is a random vote as well since otherwise it is utterly senseless." Since you admit the vote is random I do not think it is senseless. It is either senseless *or* random is what I said. You agree it is random - as do I.

**Emperors Faithful**

I said it was (mostly) random. I do have a suspicion that does not arise from your resolute denial.

>_< (suspicious face)

**Thor665**

Until you share that suspicion you will excuse me if I continue to stick by my read of your vote as either random or senseless then - why would you even challenge me on calling it that? If you don't voice a deeper suspicion you can hardly act as though you have been insulted when someone reacts to an unsupported vote as if it's an unsupported vote.

**Emperors Faithful**

I'm not insulted, just curious as to why you are getting so worked up.

As for my suspicion, well...

You know what you are doing. You know how this works and what to do. Many of our scribes here look to you for guidance. You advise us to cast off random votes in order to provoke a response, but I wonder if you are not simply eager to get a quick lynching, hoping that others would jump on the bandwagon. It would only take another vote or two for this to happen to either Vulkan or Mekboy.

To speak honestly, I'm not sure I like you directing the investigating force without us being at all sure of your loyalties. It seems to me that you have quickly become the leader of our little inquisition without prompting. There are two ways this could be happening.

1: Best Case) You are an honest servant of the Emperor, and are merely trying your hardest to root out the murderers. You have adviseing others on what's best for the good of the Imperium, and honestly believe that your methods will work to reveal the genestealers, alothugh all they seem to be leading to are random lynchings. If this is the case, I apolgise for my suspicion, but do question your competency.

2: Worst Case) You a filthy xenos who has swiftly taken control and are manipulating us, turning us against each other most effectively. You hope that by sitting at the top directing our movement no one will question you. Although you have not advised any one as yet to vote specifically on anyone, you have encuraged random voting for all. Which may lead to the mistaken early lynching of some poor soul. And one less loyalist would suit the genestealers just fine...

All in all, you seem to be...'influencing' a few of our scribes. And I am none too sure that we should be giving your word too much wieght at the moment.

**SagesStone**

I would also like to hear why he voted for Mekboy.

Vote: Vulkan_He'stan

**Vulkan_He'stan**

i hadent had a chance to read all the posts and saw
a couple of people voting for mekboy

unvote: mekboy
sorry ill have a look through the posts and decide

**Vulkan_He'stan**

vote : gornall
as he seemed to join in with mekboy and start accusing me very quickly

**Gornall**

Vulkan_He'stan wrote:i hadent had a chance to read all the posts and saw
a couple of people voting for mekboy

unvote: mekboy
sorry ill have a look through the posts and decide

So you intentionally jumped on a bandwagon to try and lynch someone? I would argue that is somewhat suspicious behavior. Also, I randomly voted for you to try and illicit a response, and it had nothing to do with Mekboy (who I don't even think is voting for you at all). Your response to this has been to ignore us only to jump in and throw a vote out for a person with multiple votes, as if you're trying to deflect attention away from yourself. This is how it looks to me, and I'm anxiously waiting on your justification of your behavior.

**airman**

"I agree with gornall, it seems that you want to lynch someone as soon as possible."
OOC:directed at Vulkan.

**Thor665**

Emperors Faithful wrote:I'm not insulted, just curious as to why you are getting so worked up.

I do not believe I am worked up - I have simply been responding to your poor logic and awkward questions. If my responses come off as harsh I submit it has more to do with me telling some truth about your methods then me getting worked up and randomly attacking you. If you disagree then please point to the errors in my responses to you. I don't believe you can.

You know what you are doing. You know how this works and what to do. Many of our scribes here look to you for guidance. You advise us to cast off random votes in order to provoke a response, but I wonder if you are not simply eager to get a quick lynching, hoping that others would jump on the bandwagon. It would only take another vote or two for this to happen to either Vulkan or Mekboy.

In addition to advocating random votes I also advocate discussion and no rush to lynch. Bringing up part of my advice to implicate me of trying to do something I have advised against suggests either you are not reading clearly or that you are hoping to implicate me of doing something I am not. Neither option is good. I have also repeatedly and often questioned votes by a variety of others - if I was trying to rush a lynch I do not understand why I would do so - can you explain how my questioning of votes works into your theory?

To speak honestly, I'm not sure I like you directing the investigating force without us being at all sure of your loyalties. It seems to me that you have quickly become the leader of our little inquisition without prompting. There are two ways this could be happening.

I offer advice - others either will follow or not follow the advice. You cannot attack me for giving advice or for others following it if the advice is good. Attack the advice and show that it is bad and then you will be getting somewhere. Until then this looks like an attempt to suggest I'm scummy for offering advice...yeah, that's really an evil behavior pattern.

1: Best Case) You are an honest servant of the Emperor, and are merely trying your hardest to root out the murderers. You have adviseing others on what's best for the good of the Imperium, and honestly believe that your methods will work to reveal the genestealers, alothugh all they seem to be leading to are random lynchings. If this is the case, I apolgise for my suspicion, but do question your competency.

Offer up a better tactic then (or even just a different one) and we can debate the merits of it versus my tactic. Until then all you're doing is being destructively reactive as opposed to proactively helpful - which is not aiding the situation.

2: Worst Case) You a filthy xenos who has swiftly taken control and are manipulating us, turning us against each other most effectively. You hope that by sitting at the top directing our movement no one will question you. Although you have not advised any one as yet to vote specifically on anyone, you have encuraged random voting for all. Which may lead to the mistaken early lynching of some poor soul. And one less loyalist would suit the genestealers just fine...

Really scummy logic here. You suggest that what I'm doing is setting myself up as a puppet master to control the votes - then you admit I haven't actually tried to control the votes and that they are "random" (for the record they are random partly for the RVS and also partly because I am encouraging people to vote for what they see as scummy - hence I'm not controlling the voting, at best (worst?) I'm trying to control the method of the voting - and by that I'm trying to force people to explain their logic when they vote and that they should vote as opposed to not vote. Explain to me how either of those directives is bad, or show me where I've made another directive other then those two and you might prove this suspicion of yours to be worth something. If you can't then I have to wonder how you think what I'm doing is bad.

All in all, you seem to be...'influencing' a few of our scribes. And I am none too sure that we should be giving your word too much wieght at the moment.

I question how I have been influencing people other then telling them to get votes out and to defend with logic. I am more then happy to have people question my methods, but only if they can either show them to be bad or show me a better method. What end goal are you hoping for here? That we don't vote? That's bad for the Imperium. That we don't use logic? Bad for Imperium. I hear you talking but I don't see an evil plan forming from my actions - can you show it to me?

**Thor665**

Vulkan_He'stan wrote:i hadent had a chance to read all the posts and saw
a couple of people voting for mekboy

Wow. That is a scary habit to have. You just reaad through briefly, saw other people voting one way and decided to vote that way as well? How likely are we to see this behavior again?

**Mekboy**

Vulkan_He'stan wrote:i hadent had a chance to read all the posts and saw
a couple of people voting for mekboy

unvote: mekboy
sorry ill have a look through the posts and decide

So you jumped on the bandwagon?

This means that, at best, you could be easily manipulated into working with the 'stealers without you realising and at worst a 'stealer looking for an easy target.

Vote: Vulkan He'stan

**Arheiner**

OK, so that's a lynch right?

**Thor665**

It is. We're in twilight now.

**Lord-Loss**

Day 1 Has Ended

Thor and Mekboy lunged at Vulkan He'stan, they both grabbed one of his arms, while Arheiner produced a wicked looking knife from the sleeve of his robe. Gornall grabbed the knife from Arheiner, and plunged it into Vulkan He'stan with all the force he could muster. Vulkan He'stan died, his cries of pain echoed off the walls.

In his Pockets you find some cheese, a book called "The Guide to spamming Thunder Hammer Terminators".

Vulkan He'stan Was An Imperial Citizen

---Night 1---

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