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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/02/01 04:47:08
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						|   Steady Space Marine Vet Sergeant
 
 
 
 
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/02/01 05:52:53
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									I never really liked her anyway. 
  Anybody here wouldn't happen to know the point of being able to copy Grunt's loyalty ability, you don't have armor......  
 
 
   I feel like this game sort of had Metal Gear Solid syndrome with the biotics in cutscenes, don't they look so much cooler than they actually are??
 
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 "But remember that there are over 1000 chapters of spase marienz! So the SM codex has to cover over 1000 different kinds of spase marienz! Codex CSM only has to cover 1 kind (the Chaos kind). And I don't even think Eldar are a kind of spase marienz at all. Hurr!"
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 Albatross wrote:I don't game in GW stores very often, but I must say that last time I did, most of the kids were much more pleasant and less annoying than some of the smelly, socially slowed ADULTS who frequent the stores.
It's a company which specialises in the selling of plastic representations of Elves, Goblins, and 9 foot tall superhuman soldiers from the future - have you ever considered that, as adults, it is US that is intruding upon THEIR world?
 
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/02/01 06:05:02
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									PistolWraithCaine wrote:I never really liked her anyway. 
 
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/02/01 06:12:43
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 People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made.  | 
		
					 
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/02/01 09:44:32
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						|   Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
 
 
 
 
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									My impresion after completing this game is.... FRAKKING AWESOM! I have NEVER enjoyed a game as much as I did with this. I must admit I was a bit sceptical at first but Im overwhemed by its awesomness
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/02/01 10:09:22
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									The romance with Garrus is honestly quite sweet.    It's not about sex or anything, it's about them.
 
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/02/01 12:28:23
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						|   Boom! Leman Russ Commander
 
 
 
 
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									Wrex and Tali are my favorite characters since I first saw them in Mass Effect 1.
There are several good thing with alien(xeno) LOVE.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/02/01 14:26:45
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									Emperors Faithful wrote:The romance with Garrus is honestly quite sweet.    It's not about sex or anything, it's about them.
 
  Garrus is fething awesome, he's been my fav character since ME1. Anyone who says otherwise will suffer a flame attack.    
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/02/01 15:15:42
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 Cheese you are incorrect on your second statement. 
 
   On the flip side, what a fantastic game, and frankly judging by the final cutscene I cannot wait for the sequel!
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/02/01 15:41:44
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									Cheese Elemental wrote:I'm playing a Paragon Adept in my second playthrough, and it's a blast. Shockwave is ridiculously powerful and push/pull recharge really fast. If you're going to play as an Adept, I recommend specialising as a Bastion once you max your passive class skill.
 Besides, Subject Zero is closer to a Vanguard than an Adept because she uses shotguns. The only thing missing is Charge.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/02/01 15:58:57
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									Kanluwen wrote:Emperors Faithful wrote:The romance with Garrus is honestly quite sweet.    It's not about sex or anything, it's about them.
 
  Garrus is fething awesome, he's been my fav character since ME1. Anyone who says otherwise will suffer a flame attack.    
  You get Legion after you've done pretty much every Loyalty mission, and 
 Tali's mission doesn't have to end like that - you just need to be a super paragon to convince the admiralty board.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/02/01 16:20:56
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/02/01 20:17:39
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									How funny were those conversations that you overhear in Eternity on Illum?     Turian: We could go watch Fleet and Flotilla. It won over five awards for it's Qu'arian/Turian romance.
 
  Qu'arian: Oh, it's okay. A little dry spell won't kill me. Besides I've got this wonderful pleasure stimulator in my enviro-suit.
 
  Turian: I hear that the love scenes are-...wait, what?
 
  Qu'arian: Oh yes, no mature adult should go anywhere without them. Here, I'll turn it on now. ...Um, excuse me, human, private conversation here? Sheesh.
 
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/02/01 21:44:14
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									It's pretty short.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/02/01 22:01:20
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									Queit, you.    (Did you go through ALL the loyalty missions?   ) I think that it can be really short if you just stick to the main story. What I like about it is all the side stories and cameos.     Though I have yet to meet 'The Fan' again...
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/02/01 22:13:02
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									I got everybody loyal but that fether Zaeed. I'm a paragon of goodness, so civvies come first.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/02/01 22:35:09
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						|   Killer Klaivex
 
 
 
 
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									BrookM wrote:I got everybody loyal but that fether Zaeed. I'm a paragon of goodness, so civvies come first.
  Oh, that's very bad. Non-loyal squad members can cause the deaths of loyal squad members during the suicide mission. My advice:
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/02/01 23:34:59
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									zaeed is awesome. i just wish there was a damn dialogue option for him.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/02/02 00:20:54
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						|   Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
 
 
 
 
	
	
	
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									The characters in this game were more interesting than the ones in ME1, but I felt they were still a little on the shallow side.  Legion was interesting, as were Mordin and Miranda, but the rest were too stereotypical; particularly Jacob.
 Really, Bioware hasn't come up with many truly great characters of late.  Wrex was well done, as was Morrigan, but they haven't been able to pull off a Viconia, or Valygar recently.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/02/02 00:28:26
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									Grunt was pretty awesome, I thought.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/02/02 00:49:13
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									He was better than I expected him to be.  They managed to sidestep the pure, mindless psychopath that anticipated.  
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/02/02 02:17:39
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									Well let put together a list. 
 Pros.
 Great graphics from what i hear(old tv dont know)
 Well put together chracters.
 interesting plot.
 zaeed.
 mordin
 cons.
 to here and there. not really a straight game.
 for a game that lets you customize your armor there is little need other then cometics changes.
 to rushed. not enough pacing.
 guns sucks. you either have A)alot of ammo with little punch or b) little ammo with alot of punch.
 anti-climatic ending.
 
 anyone else have anything to add.
 all in all in satisfied and disappointed. satisfied that it improved on the games disapointed that it was so short.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/02/02 02:22:39
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									"Short"?
 It lasted me three days for my first playthrough alone.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/02/02 02:47:18
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									a game should last atleast 50 to 60 hours. this lasted 33 for my first play through.  
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/02/02 06:12:16
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									I agree with Garret with respect to the pacing of the story.
 I also wasn't the biggest fan of the move towards a greater emphasis on the shooter elements.
 
 Still a good game, but I feel like there were some elements from the first game that should have carried over.  For example, I would have liked to see the Mako come back in a reduced and refined role.
 
 I also would have appreciated a reworked inventory system.  In fact, the inclusions of a real inventory would have gone a long way to strengthening the RPG vibe.
 
 The fuel and probe mechanics were unnecessary, as has already been pointed out.  The Final Fantasy style map navigation also seemed out of place.
 
 I sort of alluded to this earlier, but I really feel like Jacob was a wasted character.  You'd think that a guy with so many reservations about his employer would be more proactive when presented with a commander who is likely to have similar feelings.  His writing really felt phoned in; very much like the Alliance soldiers from the previous game.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/02/02 06:34:16
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									well, I nailed Tali
  which is the reason I bothered buying ME2 after that abortion Dragon Age
 
  and now I feel like I'm pretty much finished with the game
 
 Automatically Appended Next Post:  @dogma:  agreed about Jacob, was really a waste, somehow even the frigid Asari was more interesting even
 
  do like Legion, however (strange side effect of Tali crush?)  Miranda seems kind of cool--but sooooo ugly (from neck up).  Mordin makes my cut, too.  Grunt is serviceable (probably will get more mileage on a renegade playthrough) but Thane and Jack . . . meh.
 
  ME2 Garrus seemed unrelated to ME1 Garrus--is he supposed to be Batman now?
 
  As far as characterization, I think Bioware's most impressive feat in this field was making the player's character in KotOR so compelling; maybe it's just me, but Revan stands heads and shoulders over Shepherd.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/02/02 07:34:24
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									I think Legion was my favorite character, though its always a good idea to re-purpose the enemies present in the first component of a narrative (Darth Vader anyone?).
 I would have liked Jack more had her character arc not been ripped directly from the Riddick universe.  They could have at least given her a different name.
 
 Thane was boring.  Its telling that I often forget he's even in the game.  Though is character class (biotic infiltrator) would be my ideal choice given the freedom to make it.
 
 Agreed about Garrus, though I feel as though that was the point.  I suppose the ruthlessness was hinted at in ME1, but his new found disregard for law and order came out of left field.
 
 Zaeed was a solid character.  Not terribly unique, but well conceived and believable.
 
 I kind of wanted Wrex to come back, but I think what they did with him was quite fitting.  In fact, Tuchanka was well done on the whole.  Though I wish they had emphasized Krogan politics more.
 
 The Migrant Fleet was underwhelming.  Though I've never really liked the Space Jews.
 
 I found Illium to be an odd place given the supposed nature of the Asari.  It seemed too common for a planet run by omnisexual warrior women who live for a thousand years.
 
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/02/02 07:39:33
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									With Garrus, it's not so much a "newfound disregard for law and order". 
 He's had at *least* two years to stew in a timeline where the Council was doing nothing. He's basically had to sit by and watch the Citadel go to the crapper, without any real chance for redemption. It's why he took the team to Omega in the first place(to TRY to stop Eclipse's drug running).
 
 When he got betrayed and his team slaughtered--that's what pushed him over the edge into his pseudo-vigilante status.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/02/02 08:35:18
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									Jack was a stupid character and very one dimensional with little of true interest.
 The Migrant Fleet was underwhelming yes, I was expecting an overcrowded ship or something, with the inhabitants not wearing their suits at all.
 
 And maybe it's just me but the sudden inclusion of swearing doesn't make the game any more serious or adult. Same goes for the sudden smoking. Sure, the X-Files man smokes, that's okay. But seeing an Elcor with a cigar is just silly-willy.
 
 Granted, the Joker's gak mantra while limping through the Normandy was good. The scream of the yeoman less so, it made me want to rescue the crew as soon as possible.
 
 Legion was an interesting character, though I would've loved to learn more about it, especially regarding the N7 armour. Though the "there was a hole" reply suffices.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/02/02 10:10:29
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									There so much more entertaining dialouge in this one when compared to ME1. When doing Tali's loyalty mission, bring Legion on board. It's worth it.     I felt that Thane was a bit soppy. Especially for such a cold killer. Melodramatic perhaps? I think a mix or Thane/Jack characteristcs would have suited the assasin role better.
 
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