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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/31 06:27:33
Subject: Re:If you ran GW, would you allow Codices/Army Books to ship without models for all the units?
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Dakka Veteran
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Yes, do as they are now - but I'd put in more 'random' releases to shake up the wave releases a little.
I don't think GW don't release a model because of some 'marketing' strategy - they wouldn't know the meaning of the term - sites like Dakka tend to do it for them anyway  Wave releases have no real set date - typically it's 6 months to a year or even more. There's nothing wrong with them, but the lack of foresight into what would sell is bemusing. They make the Pyrovore instead of the Tervigon? They make Lukas the Trickster as oppossed to Thunderwolf Cavalry? - I know there's a loit more time and work required on kits like those - but they do everything years in advance, right? It could be the games designers come up with things at a later date so as to 'miss' the first release window - that's fine, but if you clearly have a unit that you're seeing 3rd parties making in droves, you need to step up the game at the expense of something else.
I feel GW just have too many models to re-do and as they keep adding new units to books they can't possibly meet up with the demand they're creating on themselves, as older models tend to be re-done as new plastic kits now - this is a symptom of having new editions every 4-6 (at a push) years. This months release of the Vampire Counts was, largely, unexpected - the Banshee/Wraith etc. That's good. However the cynic in me says they deliberately put models on hold for the next release - so as to give us new shiny toys, like they stubbornly only really update their armies/codex books in the next edition (if that), no matter how old or 'broken' or neglected they are. I'd argue Brettonians would be as good a release as Ogres - they're far older. Unless GW have realised that Cavalry in 8th Ed just doesn't cut it
There are too many kits that are a decade old, or even older, as well as armies that have been left languishing with no new product support for entire game editions - for me they just need to get a better balance. It seems to me GW is mis-managed in general, and this will effect any coherency or thought processes to its creative/release output, companies like Forgeworld and the Black Library are more 'free' in this aspect.
It's like GW is afraid to be all it can be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/31 19:52:48
Subject: If you ran GW, would you allow Codices/Army Books to ship without models for all the units?
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Fresh-Faced Inquisitorial Acolyte
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I think how they are doing it now is fine. I usually cant buy whole armies at once so I tend to just get them as they are released. I also enjoy the freedom it gives the player to convert their own models for those units missing models.
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Spitty Dakka Klan 2000
30k Alpha Legion
Imperial Guard 2500
Ostland of the Empire 2500
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/04 23:36:48
Subject: If you ran GW, would you allow Codices/Army Books to ship without models for all the units?
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Go ahead and release the codex. If they don't have the models for some units, sweet! Then I get to put my creativity to use and make my own.
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Gods? There are no gods. Merely existences, obstacles to overcome.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/09 19:25:40
Subject: If you ran GW, would you allow Codices/Army Books to ship without models for all the units?
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Tough-as-Nails Ork Boy
Some Tau World
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not big one conversions any more since there was no battle wagon for like 8 yrs so i made one from 2 land raiders.
As you can guess it is huge it like a baneblade. but after the release of the new battle wagon which is so small it's only just bigger then a trukk. i still try to use my model since it cost $170 to make. but people still have a cry about it
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all the armies i used to beat b4 6ed
 
 
  
 
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/13 23:46:37
Subject: If you ran GW, would you allow Codices/Army Books to ship without models for all the units?
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Black Templar Recruit Undergoing Surgeries
United Kingdom
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I personally think its a bit silly to realease rules and haveing no models ............... but i do enjoy seeing what some people come up with for said units.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 15:15:58
Subject: If you ran GW, would you allow Codices/Army Books to ship without models for all the units?
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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I for one have enjoyed converting and modelling to supply the necessary figs to fill the role of units that GW has not supplied models for. HOWEVER>>>> when GW produces a codex and the best models throughout the codex have no existing model in their range, i think its incredibly stupid and short sighted of them. See NIDS codex for an example of this stupidity in action. they could have sold a million tervigons and terror fex. Oh Gee. guess we wont make landraider priced kits for these two critters that would sell like hotcakes. I have no idea why they let a pantywaste like robin cruddycrap cut his teeth on the nids but it was a really really stupid decision not to produce these two modles. REally dumb, bad marketing on their part.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 20:01:50
Subject: Re:If you ran GW, would you allow Codices/Army Books to ship without models for all the units?
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
Belgium
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I think they should go on like they are doing now because it allows players to create their own models.
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Blood Angels: 1250+
Imperial Guard: 1250pt+
Isengard: 1850pt+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 21:35:10
Subject: If you ran GW, would you allow Codices/Army Books to ship without models for all the units?
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Pete Haines
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I would do what they are doing now, why hold off a codex just for a couple entries that don't have models? Get the codex as soon as they can so the people who play the army can have a shiny new codex, then wait for the minis.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 22:30:53
Subject: If you ran GW, would you allow Codices/Army Books to ship without models for all the units?
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Long-Range Ultramarine Land Speeder Pilot
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Once 90% of the ranges have plastic kits for at least the basic units of their armies, I would give plastic kits to the last ones, especially if they haven't had a codex revamp for years. Sorta like the Grey Knights, but with Battle Sisters. And not just a little "found within White Dwarf" rules deal.
Kaesar II.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 22:50:59
Subject: If you ran GW, would you allow Codices/Army Books to ship without models for all the units?
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Noble of the Alter Kindred
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If I ran GW, wouldn't have army books. Prefer stat cards though I guess that might not be a popular idea
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/02 04:51:26
Subject: Re:If you ran GW, would you allow Codices/Army Books to ship without models for all the units?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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It's not really the lack of unit that bugs me (and I say that as a nid player). I've converted tervigons, Shrikes, Parasites, and tyranofexes. But what REALLY bugs me is selling kits WITHOUT all the available upgrades in the book. Wanna put dual autocannons on your Dreadnought? Good luck, buddy. Want lightning claws for your assault marine sarge? He's gonna look goofy with terminator arms on a normal marine body.
So ya, Games Workshop, stop telling us we can equip out units with wargear that you don't even make.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/22 02:32:11
Subject: Re:If you ran GW, would you allow Codices/Army Books to ship without models for all the units?
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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The first choice
anyone that likes conversion work will agree with me
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/22 13:17:43
Subject: If you ran GW, would you allow Codices/Army Books to ship without models for all the units?
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Abhorrent Grotesque Aberration
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Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:If I ran GW, wouldn't have army books.
Prefer stat cards though I guess that might not be a popular idea
My idea was something similiar to this. The codexes should have the history and core rules for that particular army. Also include some type of modeling section that gives a simple painting walkthrough of a particular unit. Then for each model, deliver a "stat card" that tells about that unit. Maybe put the stats on the back of the box the model(s) come in; and on the website as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/25 06:57:33
Subject: If you ran GW, would you allow Codices/Army Books to ship without models for all the units?
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Crushing Black Templar Crusader Pilot
Philippines
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Option one seems to be most reasonable for me
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 19:46:37
Subject: If you ran GW, would you allow Codices/Army Books to ship without models for all the units?
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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I voted yes, however I would add the stipulation that it would not take a LONG time for those models to then be produced (like what we are seeing with Nids)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/28 21:04:50
Subject: If you ran GW, would you allow Codices/Army Books to ship without models for all the units?
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Flameguard
St. Louis, MO
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I don't mind releasing the book early, with the notation that anything you put in that book needs to coming down the pipe in terms of releases, though.
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