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Next you'll say that Starcraft totally ripped off 40k.

Warcraft was going to originally be a game based off Warhammer Fantasy and Starcraft was originally going to be a game based off of Warhammer 40k.

G-W was on board for a little bit then decided to be dicks.

O-T:

*side note* I agree that pic number 1 is hotter, because we all know that a chick with daggers and a bow can easily steal your heat (damn rogues).

I hardly think that D&D is dying because every Gaming Store I go to sells the books, and has people playing it on the weekends, and I actually take part of a 4e game as said Dwarf in the corner, I just happen to be a Cleric/Fighter, so keep yer mouth to your self.

Cambak wrote:

Next you'll say that Starcraft totally ripped off 40k.

Warcraft was going to originally be a game based off Warhammer Fantasy and Starcraft was originally going to be a game based off of Warhammer 40k.

G-W was on board for a little bit then decided to be dicks.

O-T:

*side note* I agree that pic number 1 is hotter, because we all know that a chick with daggers and a bow can easily steal your heat (damn rogues).

I hardly think that D&D is dying because every Gaming Store I go to sells the books, and has people playing it on the weekends, and I actually take part of a 4e game as said Dwarf in the corner, I just happen to be a Cleric/Fighter, so keep yer mouth to your self.

No need to be rude. I was just asking what other people thought about it.

Samus_aran115 wrote:

Cambak wrote:

Next you'll say that Starcraft totally ripped off 40k.

Warcraft was going to originally be a game based off Warhammer Fantasy and Starcraft was originally going to be a game based off of Warhammer 40k.

G-W was on board for a little bit then decided to be dicks.

O-T:

*side note* I agree that pic number 1 is hotter, because we all know that a chick with daggers and a bow can easily steal your heat (damn rogues).

I hardly think that D&D is dying because every Gaming Store I go to sells the books, and has people playing it on the weekends, and I actually take part of a 4e game as said Dwarf in the corner, I just happen to be a Cleric/Fighter, so keep yer mouth to your self.

No need to be rude. I was just asking what other people thought about it.

I am deeply sorry if you thought I was being rude, I was not trying to be (damn internet). I was merely giving a statement and I once again apologize if I came across rude.

I forgive you

Cambak wrote:I am deeply sorry if you thought I was being rude, I was not trying to be (damn internet). I was merely giving a statement and I once again apologize if I came across rude.

Samus_aran115 wrote:I forgive you

sniff... sniff... dakka group hug!

Nice. That's officially saved.

3.5 survives..... no...
3.5 THRIVES!

PATHFINDER FOR LIFE!

I think the only reason 3.5 is still alive is because you can find all the supplements you need on the internet.

Without the internet, people would never bother with it. :3

Pffft. I started playing Basic D&D, then Expert, then Advanced, then 2nd Ed.
As far as subsequent versions go....

I'll keep my money, and any DM who can't make the game work with the books he has, isn't really up to the Job.

Samus_aran115 wrote:I think the only reason 3.5 is still alive is because you can find all the supplements you need on the internet.

Without the internet, people would never bother with it. :3

There's a lot of truth to that statement. AD&D died a comparatively abrupt death. Of course, Paizo and the bankruptcy of TSR are the rest of the story.

I like the Pathfinder system alot more then I like 3.5, especially since they took Pixies out of Pathfinder.

As for 4.0, its different. Its more combat oriented but there can be quite a bit of roleplaying in it to. I have to say, it and its published encounters are well written.

I remain a fan of the 'old school' approach, and as noted, there is PLENTY of opportunity for actual ROLE PLAYING where ever you find yourself playing - provided the DM and players are up for it!

I do worry about the long term viability and health of the "Old School Revival" - is it limited in lifespan to match that of it's youngest members?

I started with D&D and then AD&D back in 1980!

Will it all come to an end it about 10 to 20 years, forever?

Roleplaying will continue as long as people love to tell stories together. D&D might not last that long. It doesn't seem too terrible a thought to me.

Lately I find myself jumping form system to system depending on what my group wants. Some nights its D&D 4.0, some nights its pathfinder, or call of cthulhu, the dresdin files, serenity... There are a ton of systems out there, and all of them can be fun.

One of the things I really like about 4.0 is the simplified skills. A lot of people complained about this when 4 came out, but after playing with the 4.0 skills, it's actually much easier to use and train. I mean really? Jump skill? The only time I bothered to train that was a silly themed battle where I was a jester.

No one ever puts points into jump, but when they need to make a significatn jump they always whine about not haveing it.

Catyrpelius wrote:No one ever puts points into jump, but when they need to make a significatn jump they always whine about not haveing it.

Which is funny, because once I had to take multiple jump tests while hopping over buildings, and ultimately ended up walking

If the group I'm DM'ing for pisses me off to much, I tend to make them roll stills they havent put anything in to. Speeking of which, my group has been short on people lately, anyone in my area looking for a new rpg group?

Jersey, eh?

How's your febreeze stock?

Lmao, it doesnt sound like I really want to know....

A joke on new jersey being so smelly I kid,I kid. I've got family in jersey. Hoboken, actually. Apparently, that's where all the broke people from queens go

I have like, 15+ of 3.5 books.

I never found a group to play with...

Samus_aran115 wrote:A joke on new jersey being so smelly I kid,I kid. I've got family in jersey. Hoboken, actually. Apparently, that's where all the broke people from queens go

I'm from Northwestern NJ, if your from out of the area, and someone dropped you off here and didnt tell you where you were, it would be nothing like what you think is NJ.

But then again, I went to school in Newark and that whole area is much more "NJ like"

Catyrpelius wrote:

Samus_aran115 wrote:A joke on new jersey being so smelly I kid,I kid. I've got family in jersey. Hoboken, actually. Apparently, that's where all the broke people from queens go

I'm from Northwestern NJ, if your from out of the area, and someone dropped you off here and didnt tell you where you were, it would be nothing like what you think is NJ.

But then again, I went to school in Newark and that whole area is much more "NJ like"

Take the amtrak up and down the east coast, you'll notice it all looks the same! I swear, Delaware isn't really what I thought delaware was. The east coast can look like kansas if you squint enough to blur out the pizza joints and hybrid cars

well if your ever up this way and looking for a game of something let me know

Kay. I go up that way every couple of months.

Alpharius wrote:I remain a fan of the 'old school' approach, and as noted, there is PLENTY of opportunity for actual ROLE PLAYING where ever you find yourself playing - provided the DM and players are up for it!

I do worry about the long term viability and health of the "Old School Revival" - is it limited in lifespan to match that of it's youngest members?

I started with D&D and then AD&D back in 1980!

Will it all come to an end it about 10 to 20 years, forever?

Well, depending on who you talk to, EVERYTHING will be coming to an end in two. No worries

ie: People who've heard of the Mayan calendar but don't know anything about it. Personally, I think we get Shadowrun.

Back to the topic, I'm enjoying playing and running 4E, but I could absolutely see myself playing 3.5 or PF again. They're more Simulationist, where 4E is more abstract and Gamist.

BTW, everyone knows in 3.5 you put 1 rank in Jump so you can land on your feet when you jump. Powergamers all know, anyway. :lol:

Mannahnin wrote:BTW, everyone knows in 3.5 you put 1 rank in Jump so you can land on your feet when you jump. Powergamers all know, anyway. :lol:

Whaaaaa?

I played a lot of 3.5 and this never occurred to me, but now looking over my PHB and DMG... Man.

I still have all of my 3.5 books and don't plan on buying 4E. Ever. Not really for hipster reasons, I just feel like I'd rather spend my "nerd money" on GW stuff.

And how dare they make mezzoloths into demons! My precious Yugoloths have been retconned! Oh Planescape, how I miss you.

You know folks, over here in the UK there's still quite a large tabletop crowd, it can be annoying circumnavigating the reams of internet forums and crappy websites to find places near you but I know a good number of pubs and clubs where people get together for a laugh.

Not to mention a lot of my friends play 3.5 at home, which is something I plan to pick up on again when I have some more money and time.

WotC seem to have forgotten us over here, though, and the better hobby shop near where I live closed down 4 years ago. Now all I have are as many Games Workshop retailers as it's possible to fit and almost nothing else. Amazon has never been so handy.