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LavuranGuard wrote:You can bet on plastics very soon, I just bought a load of metal ones!

I don't think Murphy's Law will work when it comes to GW.

Hearing news about the Sisters is nice. I have always liked the helmeted sisters a bit more though so I am not too keen on the veil idea.

Kroothawk wrote:And I also understand stickmonkey hints that at least the Dominion squad is slow and purposeful.

Slow and purposeful is a stupid rule. Random movement is not purposeful.

Nor fun.

I'm quite excited for Sister plastics. The original design in 1997 was quite good, and I'd love to see them updated. I liked the description, and I'm always up for a Jes redesign. I loved the DE models, although I have no interest in collecting them. I will collect SOB though. Veils, no veils...I'm always up for options.

Regarding the haircut, I've always wanted a page haircut. I wish they had done the Living Saint with a page cut. But I assume they'll keep a fairly uniform look. But like Marines, maybe a few different hairstyles would play well. But I'm not expecting it.

As for a timeframe, that is easy. The fall release with a long buildup worked well for DE, so I imagine they'll do the same. It won't be fall of 2011, so I would put money on the fall of 2012 if they can get the models working.

dienekes96 wrote:As for a timeframe, that is easy. The fall release with a long buildup worked well for DE, so I imagine they'll do the same. It won't be fall of 2011, so I would put money on the fall of 2012 if they can get the models working.

Why do you say such hurtful things?

I wish it would be sooner as well. But I've seen companies get superstitious about dates. Once The Dark Knight made $500 million opening the third Friday in July, guess when Warner Brothers started releasing their big summer movies...like clockwork.

Harry Potter 6 - third Friday in July 2009
Inception - same director (= same selling point) - third Friday in July 2010
Harry Potter 7 (pt. 1) - third Friday in July 2011

And surprise, surprise...guess when The Dark Knight Rises is scheduled to open in 2012. One guess should be enough.

So anyways, if the DE sold well, I'd wager that GW will link some of that success to the fall (post-Games Day UK) release. So that just makes sense for Sisters. I truly hope it is sooner.

But I wouldn't expect it sooner.

No, they talked. Or at least their leader did.

edit.

I'm not talking about that HH short story with sister Leilani buying the farm but rather a short story from uhm.. ah! "Tales from the Dark Millennium"

Hmm, you got me interested.
Was the story taking place on a space ship (one of the sisters did talk even)?
The story I remember was a "short" one, part of a novelle collection, just dont remember what it was about otehr then sisters of silence on a space ship, possible a black ship and I think tehy were hunting for renegade psychers being on the loose.

Pyriel- wrote:

No, they talked. Or at least their leader did.

edit.

I'm not talking about that HH short story with sister Leilani buying the farm but rather a short story from uhm.. ah! "Tales from the Dark Millennium"

Hmm, you got me interested.
Was the story taking place on a space ship (one of the sisters did talk even)?
The story I remember was a "short" one, part of a novelle collection, just dont remember what it was about otehr then sisters of silence on a space ship, possible a black ship and I think tehy were hunting for renegade psychers being on the loose.

The story I am referring to does NOT take place during the HH or on a ship with the Sisters of Silence hunting down a future Leilani. It is not from the "Tales of Heresy" anthology novel, but from the "Tales of the Dark Millennium" collection, based on the Sabretooth cardgames that were released back then. The three sisters were Sororitas with bolters and veils, not mute anti-psykers who have to use sign language.

edit.

Here!

H.B.M.C. wrote:All-plastic is the new black, so to speak. If the Sister release is anything like the Dark Eldar release (although I doubt it would be on the same scale), then we're in for some good times ahead. Yes, there will always be metal models - miniautres that are expected to sell in low quantities like special characters are done in metal as it's more economical that way - but for the bread and butter units, it's going to be plastic all the way.

This pisses me off SO bad. DE's release probably told GW that it makes no difference how long they wait people will always buy new shiny stuff even if they have to sit with nothing for a decade.

What it should have told them is a massively supported release alongside a new codex with brilliant new all-plastic figures covering the key supports of the range is a devastating assault on wallets everywhere.

They would have seen the same thing with the plastic commanders experiment if they hadn't made them suck so hard.

I'll wait until I see pics before judging, a text description can only go so far.

Scottywan82 wrote:

This pisses me off SO bad. DE's release probably told GW that it makes no difference how long they wait people will always buy new shiny stuff even if they have to sit with nothing for a decade.

What it should have told them is a massively supported release alongside a new codex with brilliant new all-plastic figures covering the key supports of the range is a devastating assault on wallets everywhere.

They would have seen the same thing with the plastic commanders experiment if they hadn't made them suck so hard.

Always remember that the veteran is not GW's target market or cash cow. Someone who already has sisters may need 100-200 dollars worth of units to modify their army to the new codex- but one poor noob will likely dump 500+ into the ladies of grimdark. However, to entice the noobs to jump to the next bandwagon, you must give them time to recover- army starting money has a long cooldown. So the more successful a release is, the more likely GW is to delay the next release in order to suck more of the money out of the jumpers. They already have the money of the loyal sisters' players out there- they just have to make the models and collect it. The new customers are the ones they are targeting.

Your function now is as a living, breathing advertisement, and they will keep you in the game best not with new releases- but with the lure of 'free' product from their Rogue Trader Tournament initiative. If you win free stuff every 2 or 3 months it will be enough to keep you hooked until the next time your army is updated, or a new army catches your eye.

BrookM wrote:

Here!

Mmmm, sounds like I need to get that one.


Regarding the veil, sounds interesting, and anything new is good. After seeing what they did with Wyches, I'm really hoping for some different heads, hair styles, no hair (go on GW you know it makes sense) and anything else that allows us to at least mark out some differences on the units.

I love SOB and their whole zeaous/warrior nun/purge with fire vibe, and have since back in 2nd edition.

I also love the concept/imagery of the Ecclessiarchy and related: for example I always loved cawdor and redemptionists in Necromunda, etc.

That being said I sold off my whole collection of metal SOB last year as I just didn't play them very often and wasn't thrilled with the current codex options.


If cool/detailed plastic SOB are released and they get a new codex that does them justice I will surely bite; particularly if it also allows for ecclessiarch type units (preachers, confessors, missionaries, zealot mobs, redemptionists types, etc.)

If they are simply filler for an =I= codex, GW has lost my money...

Sisters are going to be the focus of their own codex, probably with Ecclesiarchy assets as well. Kinda like Grey Knights are the focus of THEIR codex.

MajorTom11 wrote:Don't know if it's been said before, but Hospitalers are Soriatas, just not a millitant order. So still a sister.

Sororitas yes. I'm not definitive on this. The fine distinction I was making was that though they're all part of the same larger organization Ecclesiarch and the Ordo Hereticus and that they are categorized as Sororitas that the "Sisters of Battle" are specifically the chamber militant of those entities, while the Sisters Hospitaller are not. They are another part of the "sisterhood" outside the combat-centric "Sisters of Battle."

AlexHolker wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:And I also understand stickmonkey hints that at least the Dominion squad is slow and purposeful.

Slow and purposeful is a stupid rule. Random movement is not purposeful.

Random movement is the "slow" part, the "purposeful" part is that they're relentless. It does make sense from the stand point that they are so intent on shooting their target that aren't focused on moving as fast as possible.

Why should units that have assault weapons need relentless? Unless Dominions are given terminator armor or equivalents, or if they now take the place of Retributors, it doesn't make any sense.

Great, vacation over apparently.

S&P is reaching a bit based on what Stickmonkey wrote. That being said, S&P gives relentless and SoB with Relentless would be pretty cool. That's rapid fire and charge all the time.

If we do accept that his comments meant S&P, it could mean a redesign with sisters getting relentless / S&P. Dominions with relentless Multimeltas? Yes, please!

Plus, I like the idea of a slow, methodical advance of unwaveringly faithful troops pouring heavy fire through discipline into the enemy.

It would be cool if they applied the Sanguinary Guard armour aesthetic to the sisters. But I think there'd be too many complaining parents if they did female armour with nipples showing.

Redbeard wrote:It would be cool if they applied the Sanguinary Guard armour aesthetic to the sisters. But I think there'd be too many complaining parents if they did female armour with nipples showing.

LOL

Either way i actually like the current sister jump pack design, its unique yet clearly imperial.

The SoB are getting some love over at BL. Too bad it will be a year til it is out.

Hammer and Anvil

hushrong wrote:The SoB are getting some love over at BL. Too bad it will be a year til it is out.

Great. Not only are the codices being pushed back, but the one BL book I was looking forward to is, too.

A pity, but at least the sisters are actually getting a BL book. A rare occasion indeed.

AlexHolker wrote:

hushrong wrote:The SoB are getting some love over at BL. Too bad it will be a year til it is out.

Great. Not only are the codices being pushed back, but the one BL book I was looking forward to is, too.

Er, what?

The Sisters book by Jim Swallow, "Hammer and Anvil" has been scheduled for December 2011 for almost a year.

It hasn't been "pushed back".

Kanluwen wrote:

AlexHolker wrote:

hushrong wrote:The SoB are getting some love over at BL. Too bad it will be a year til it is out.

Great. Not only are the codices being pushed back, but the one BL book I was looking forward to is, too.

Er, what?

The Sisters book by Jim Swallow, "Hammer and Anvil" has been scheduled for December 2011 for almost a year.

It hasn't been "pushed back".

When they first put it on the site it was scheduled for September 2011. Not much of a push back really, but it technically was one. Now Red and Black (audio book for Sisters) is comign out October 2011. Thats hasn't changed since they posted it for clarity's sake.

Melissia wrote:A pity, but at least the sisters are actually getting a BL book. A rare occasion indeed.

Does suck that it will be a year till it hits store shelves. At least my copy of Faith and Fire won't be all alone then.

andrewm9 wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

AlexHolker wrote:

hushrong wrote:The SoB are getting some love over at BL. Too bad it will be a year til it is out.

Great. Not only are the codices being pushed back, but the one BL book I was looking forward to is, too.

Er, what?

The Sisters book by Jim Swallow, "Hammer and Anvil" has been scheduled for December 2011 for almost a year.

It hasn't been "pushed back".

When they first put it on the site it was scheduled for September 2011. Not much of a push back really, but it technically was one. Now Red and Black (audio book for Sisters) is coming out October 2011. That hasn't changed since they posted it for clarity's sake.

I'm almost 100% positive it's been scheduled for December 2011 since it went up on there in September.

Melissia wrote:I'll wait until I see pics before judging, a text description can only go so far.

I agree. 'Veils' and boots are really vague details. Kind of unfortunate that the armour is the old style, but maybe they'll be more fun to paint in plastic. Seraphims are one of the most boring things I've ever painted

As opposed to Guardsmen, Samus, olol.

I am excited about the news, but now I have this one mental image of what the Sisters will all look like now, and when they actually come out with pics I think I'll just be disapointed. Sort of like reading a book before seeing the movie, I guess.

Here's hoping the bolter girl codex gets a space pope entry of their own, this army is just screaming for a cardinal or pope like character, preferably a walking corpse, confined to a segway of his own.