Veiled Sisters of Battle?

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**Manchu**

Yeah, Praxedes was dead when her rules were published. I get that martyrdom is a key concept in the SoB mystique but how about some Sisters that aren't killed, raped, corrupted by Chaos, or otherwise undermined by their own fluff?

**1hadhq**

Done with wishlisting of special characters?

Since the rumor is about a " prototype" and thus mostly hints on style and general design, where may I find the SC there?

wyomingfox wrote:Stickmonkey edited his WarSeer post:

Stickmonkey wrote:EDITED:

I've had a chance to gather notes and thoughts a bit more now that I've completed my work today and had time to get a pint and a bite...

So to clarify a few bits.

The lace, is not laces, its lace around the top of the boot. at the knee. the model has like a pirate style boot and the lace is around the top edge..or thats my take away of what it was.

The bolter is still most certainly a bolter, but look at the existing line, the bolters are disproportioned...especially the bolt pistols...to the models. the new ones are much more like the AoBR SM bolters. With straps, etc. and are separate pieces from arms. they "look" slighty thinner than a SM bolter and have a different shape to the over all gun, but they are not "Girly" i did not have a SM handy to compare directly, so it could just be impression. Also, they have abandoned the banana clip completely it seems.

the veil covered the whole head, its an alternate to the helmet, the face piece is just separate. think cobra commander vs vera wang wedding.

the torso has small details in the corset, i think skulls.

the tabard between the legs had flur de lis details.

there are "sleeves" similar to the image on 19 of the current WH book. similar, but not identical.

I'll reiterate this is a prototype though, not what has necessarily been approved. But as a beta stage model, i really like it, and I think a teaser of it would really build up excitement...hint hint GW overlords... Maybe wait til closer to release...

Overall when i see the current sisters their are very "bulky" these new ones are very graceful, but in a brutal way. the poses are much more dynamic and agressive. not everyone has their feet planted shoulder width apart torso straight on to their opponents....

I was told there will be numerous head options for the sisters, in the way theyve been doing all releases, but the "bob cut" is the preferred hairstyle.

I'm also told sisters repentia, priests, celestians, and seraphim will get new models with seraphim likely to adopt jump packs similar to the sanguinary guard...though I saw no evidence of this. No word on arco flaggelants.

Penitent engine is getting reworked as well.

And of course you saw my Jan rumor post. To provide a clue, Dominion squads.

Inq forces should all be updated by the GK release, so no news there for SoB, but they are expected to be present in the codex.

I also know of a few more "new" units that are being developed.

Cheers.

Ecclesiarchy and SoB:

- repentia stay ( castigate thyself much?)
- metals to plastic , new units

**AlexHolker**

Kanluwen wrote:I'm almost 100% positive it's been scheduled for December 2011 since it went up on there in September.

No, it hasn't. And here's proof.

James Swallow wrote:As well as recent announcements that Deus Ex: Human Revolution is being put back (don't worry, it's still going to be "early 2011"), my next Warhammer 40,000 novel Hammer & Anvil has dropped a few months to a release date around this time next year, so consider yourself well warned about it. Incidentally, Black Library have now confirmed they'll be reprinting my first Sisters of Battle novel Faith & Fire around the same time; and before that arrives, there will be Red & Black in October, an audiobook prequel. It's going to be a bumper Xmas for nuns with guns next year.

**Kanluwen**

AlexHolker wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:I'm almost 100% positive it's been scheduled for December 2011 since it went up on there in September.

No, it hasn't. And here's proof.

James Swallow wrote:As well as recent announcements that Deus Ex: Human Revolution is being put back (don't worry, it's still going to be "early 2011"), my next Warhammer 40,000 novel Hammer & Anvil has dropped a few months to a release date around this time next year, so consider yourself well warned about it. Incidentally, Black Library have now confirmed they'll be reprinting my first Sisters of Battle novel Faith & Fire around the same time; and before that arrives, there will be Red & Black in October, an audiobook prequel. It's going to be a bumper Xmas for nuns with guns next year.

Hrmh. Oh well.

**oomiestompa**

1hadhq wrote:Done with wishlisting of special characters?

Nope. I got one more for ya.

Ephrael Stern. I don't how broken she would be.

**H.B.M.C.**

It's hard to get excited about a Codex that will do nothing but invalidate yet another of my armies.

Kanluwen wrote:Hrmh. Oh well.

That almost sound liked a concession Kan.

Almost.

**Kanluwen**

Never give up! Never surrender!

To infinity AND BEYOND!

That better?

**Grot 6**

Any word on the last Inquisition faction, the Alien hunters?

Its all great and all about the sisters of battle, but with the way that they are dragging thier feet on revamping codexs? Its almost a crime to have to wait around for almost three years for revamps.

**Melissia**

Three years? Try ten.

**Kroothawk**

... or 12 for Dark Eldar.

**Aduro**

How long's it been since the Necron book came out?

**nomsheep**

about ten years.

**Kroothawk**

July 2002, so about 8.5 years(and counting

):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_%28Warhammer_40,000%29

**nomsheep**

i was close.

**Dark Apostle 666**

Hope they re-release the inquisition armies, i miss vindicare assassins.
Veils sound cool though- but if they're not seperate they'll be really hard to paint.

**Squigsquasher**

When they said veils, I thought they meant as in muslim bhurka buddy style sisters!

**CT GAMER**

Manchu wrote:Anything to lean away from the Inquisition and toward the Ecclesiarchy would be good.

+1

Bravo!!!

It still boggles my mind that despite how central the Ecclesiarchy are to not only Imperial fluff but the tone/feel/imagery of the 40K universe in general, that GW doesn't give it the attention it deserves with a full fledged Codex: Ecclessiarchy.

Yes they don't have standing armies, but they have plenty of ways in which the fervor of it's followers finds them in violent conflict and crusade.

The codex could be used to represent anything from SOB armies to mobs of zealots led by missionaries, to various Imperial "cults" ( some boardering on heretical/outlaws like the redemptionists, etc.).

Imagine a codex that goes back to the old spirit of GW/40K encouraging conversions and themed armies!

I think such a codex would have a lot of appeal, and it's ability to incorporate anything from actual SOB to all manner of priests, arcos, etc. would be a fine vehicle to increase model sales: empire flaggellants mixed with 40K bits to make zealots, peacher/missionary/confessor models, penitant engines, arcos, etc., etc.

make the SOB list the main list, but allow for the other stuff as add-ons or sub-lists of religious rabble. I want armies of flagellants and penitants in robes, covered in litanies and bearing fire marching in the name of the emperor.

Bring back some of the old special characters like Uriah jacobson and the original space pope, etc.:

It will never happen, but it should...

**CadianXV**

I suppose the argument is that the current codecies could be used to realise that vision. The IG codex: Penal Legion troops to represent flaggelents etc, storm troopers as SoB (I know not quite the same...) a heavy focus on Priests, the order system to show the divine word of the Cardinal, use penitent engines as flamer armed sentinels, the opportunities go on...

**CT GAMER**

CadianXV wrote:I suppose the argument is that the current codecies could be used to realise that vision. The IG codex: Penal Legion troops to represent flaggelents etc, storm troopers as SoB (I know not quite the same...) a heavy focus on Priests, the order system to show the divine word of the Cardinal, use penitent engines as flamer armed sentinels, the opportunities go on...

yes, and Space marines COULD all be represenetd by Codex:Space marines, but do you think that SW,BA, DA players, etc. would be thrilled if that was their only option?

Having your army relegated to second class citizen status is not all that appealing. I think wanting an actual dedicated codex for SOB/Ecclessiarchy is a valid desire.

Again: it isn't gonna happen, but still...

**vaatbak**

Kanluwen wrote:Never give up! Never surrender!

To infinity AND BEYOND!

That better?

Buzz lightyear would be proud.

**Brotherjulian**

Veils? SOB have become Far Dareis Mai?

**Austragalis**

I'm happy for the SoB players that are finally getting plastic kits, and I find no problem with the veils. It will probably be a thing like some heads in the sprue have veils molded on and some don't.

I also don't think it would be a problem if they were thrown into the Witch Hunters codex, as long as the codex gave the option and proper rules to field an all Sisters army, which really wouldn't be too difficult.

I would also laugh my ass off if the sisters wore burkas, as some have suggested. That would be such a smart ass thing to do, especially since GW is based Britain!

Then the only demographic left to appease would be the Necron players! After that, they could start on some pet projects, like a Kroot codex or something.

**Mr Hyena**

I like the idea of a Codex: Church; but to be honest I still want the option to have an Inquisition-focused SoB army; or at least let the Inquisition have its own codex (if the whole rumours about HQ choices unlocking unit options is true)

**pretre**

Brotherjulian wrote:Veils? SOB have become Far Dareis Mai?

I am very okay with that.

**wyomingfox**

Brotherjulian wrote:Veils? SOB have become Far Dareis Mai?

Only if they get spears and a rule that makes them uncomfortable around bodies of water.

**Sister_Lucy**

I'll believe it when I see them in person..

**SkaerKrow**

Sister_Lucy wrote:I'll believe it when I see them in person..

FAITH DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!

**Wehrkind**

Fire does.

**poontangler**

Honestly I'd like to see more people pick up the SoB. Fluff wise they are not as large as the Imperial Guard, but a hell of a lot more common then the Space Marines.

**Platuan4th**

poontangler wrote:Honestly I'd like to see more people pick up the SoB. Fluff wise they are not as large as the Imperial Guard, but a hell of a lot more common then the Space Marines.

How so? Even supposing that there's more Nuns per Order than Marines per Chapter, there's far fewer Orders than there are Chapters in the official fluff.

Just to give you an idea: GW stated that the entire Order of the Bloody Rose fought at the Therrix Suppression of 085.M41, numbering 12 Battle Sister squads, 6 Retributor squads, 4 Dominion squads, 3 Celestian squads, and 1 Repentia squad.

The Order of Our Martyred Lady is the largest, with several thousand Sisters.