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I would personally love to have the Dark Mechanicus as troop/elite options in my army

I could so see human cultists as a no wbb troop option and usual human stats (but maybe cybernetics like the ork cybork body or the imperial cybernetics wargear that allows you to trecover on a 6) , which might also let some inperial tech in (melta!!) and allow repair rolls on our liths (that would make the Imp players scream like peeled weasels)..

I doubt it would happen, but it would be hilarious if the necron codex was the only one you could build an Ad-Mech army from

Grey Templar wrote:the new Cron codex will likely have Essence's of the C'tan.


because the C'tan couldn't be everywhere at the same time, they would give Necron Lords portions of their power. they would assume the form and strength of a C'tan for a period of time.


so the Void Dragon could be in the codex, his essence.


of course, if the Void Dragon doesn't make it in, then my Vaul=Dragon theory has some weight. it would require GW to advance the story line for the Void Dragon to give his essence to a Necron Lord as it's been almost 40,000 years since the Void Dragon had contact with his forces(and as such most are likely sleeping)

Saying they can't be everywhere at the same time and so shouldn't be able to be in an army doesn't seem to stop the 5 million Mephiston clones wandering around at the moment.

Having C'tan clones is less of a problem than having supposed gods being taken down by poisoned weaponry, JotWW, and other such nonsense. Get those fools outta the game, they probably can't even mesh with Apocalypse well.

hence the "essence" replacement.


In DoW, Necrons don't get the Nightbringer.

the Necron Lord can turn into the Essence of the Nightbringer.

I like the idea of an essence or avatar

thats the idea.

Yup...I was agreeing with you if it wasn't clear. I guess my original post was part rant/part justification for having an essence system replace the current one.

I understand the idea, but I don't think it's inkeeping with the Necron theme. They're meant to be identical automatons, the rank and file footsoldiers of the C'Tan, and being able to assume a C'Tan's form seems like it would be... sacrilige, might be the best way to put it. It would feel, to me at least, like a cheap rip-off of the Eldar Avatars.

For the same reason, I don't like the idea of named Lords, because it again detracts from the concept of identicality (Probably not a word).

Well in the rulebook it mentions Necron Lords going insane from the statis, some believing themselves to be gods (and changing their forms to do so), and others going on hatred driven wars against the living. The lords seem to have some personality left.

As for named lords Necrons seem to follow the Tyranid naming scheme, all the names are taken from what the IoM and Eldar call them. For example some lords we know are the Silent King and the Bringer of Storms because that's what the IoM and others call them, who knows what their real names are. It's the same idea for why Deathleaper is called Deathleaper, those who have encountered him created that moniker for him.

asimo77 wrote:Well in the rulebook it mentions Necron Lords going insane from the statis, some believing themselves to be gods (and changing their forms to do so), and others going on hatred driven wars against the living. The lords seem to have some personality left.

As for named lords Necrons seem to follow the Tyranid naming scheme, all the names are taken from what the IoM and Eldar call them. For example some lords we know are the Silent King and the Bringer of Storms because that's what the IoM and others call them, who knows what their real names are. It's the same idea for why Deathleaper is called Deathleaper, those who have encountered him created that moniker for him.

That's true. I named my Lord the way I did because of his first encounter with Eldar, so I can see how they would work.

To your first point: Where does it mention that Lords go insane in stasis? I do remember reading it somewhere, but I can't remember where and I'd like to re-read the passage.

I was mostly paraphrasing based on my memory of the Rulebook, here's snippet from the passage "Others have been driven utterly insane by the weight of aeons" (pg 179)

There's other parts to the quote that reference the supposed apotheoses, hate filled wars, and other shenangians the lords pull off.

As a side note following that nomenclature my lord is known as "The Necromancer". Seems very fitting for a necron.

Necron Lords certaintly retain the greater parts of their personality.


the Immortals also have some shred of their minds left.


it isn't unheard of for Necron Lords to battle each other over the other's army. the winner takes all.

Did nercons have their own personality’s in the fluff when they the first chapter approved list and metals came out in the late ninety’s? Kind of dipped out of the hobby then.

I read somewhere that the Void Dragon had a Blackstone Fortress deployed against him by the Eldar near the end of the War in Heaven, and that the attack failed to subdue him. My line of thought is that he was weakened by it, and with the outbreak of the Enslavers he had to flee, and then sometime later ran into the Emperor, where in his starved state mashed and locked down on Mars. I also draw a reference from the Necron Codex in the Deceiver's profile, that he wants the C'tan to unite to defeat the new races. His work in the Imperium could very well ahve something to do with working covertly to free the Void Dragon and perhaps find news of the Outsider.

The essence idea has been floating around for years with the rumours of the new Necron codex, and it would be a nice touch to have a special character representing each C'tan that they are serving. They could also work it into like a Chaos-style codex, four 'areas of blessings' from each C'tan. For example a Warrior squad blessed by the Void Dragon would lose their Gauss Flayers and gain the Lightning fuelled fists that his specific followers had.

Grey Templar wrote:Necron Lords certaintly retain the greater parts of their personality.


the Immortals also have some shred of their minds left.


it isn't unheard of for Necron Lords to battle each other over the other's army. the winner takes all.

Where does it mention them fighting each-other? If you look at the Apocalypse books, it's not just 1 Lord that rules a bunch of warriors, it's a triple redundancy system involving Bronze, silver, and gold Lords who are activated based on the threat level to the Tombworld and how fast it's awakening, with a theorized platinum Lord at the very top of the chain, though never before seen.

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Grey Templar wrote:Necron Lords certaintly retain the greater parts of their personality.


the Immortals also have some shred of their minds left.


it isn't unheard of for Necron Lords to battle each other over the other's army. the winner takes all.

Where does it mention them fighting each-other? If you look at the Apocalypse books, it's not just 1 Lord that rules a bunch of warriors, it's a triple redundancy system involving Bronze, silver, and gold Lords who are activated based on the threat level to the Tombworld and how fast it's awakening, with a theorized platinum Lord at the very top of the chain, though never before seen.

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