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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 15:48:57
Subject: what exactly did C.S Goto write that was incorrect?
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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you definitely got hooked up.
<<<<jealous much>
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 15:49:00
Subject: what exactly did C.S Goto write that was incorrect?
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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The trick is to ask around right as the new book hits. People freak out because they see something getting overpriced, etc in points and do a mass-dump of their stuff they'd had saved up.
The most fun part is the guy acted like I was the sucker.
Joke's on you! I got 30+ of my favorite models for the price of 10!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 15:55:03
Subject: what exactly did C.S Goto write that was incorrect?
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Dark Scipio wrote:Steelmage99 wrote:Dark Scipio wrote:Steelmage99 wrote:... You dont remember it, but complain. When your someone points out your failure you get rude blame other to be a nerd becaue you cool as your ,, don't take the fluff that seriously." despite showing the exact opposite shortly before. What are you talking about? These were my answers; Yeah, I remember those two situations distinctly. I will not rule out that I have gotten things mixed up. Yeah, it seems I was wrong about that one, too. Oh well. OK. Do these somehow tell you that I am taking this very seriously? If you dont take the fluff ,,that seriously", why do you complain about something contradicting it? If you notice, I am not taking exception to being corrected on the fluff. It is the manner in which it is served, I take issue with. So, I misremembered about the Dreadnoughts?.....Ok, no problem. So, Kan and I disagree about what exactly a "Tube Charge" is?....Fine, no biggie. Kan doesn't remember about the Storm Troopers and the effect of their weapons in "Cadian Blood"?...and here comes the issue. Kan deflects by making this about how important it is to keep Hellgun and Hot-shot apart (in the fluff, no less). He is right, of course. Hell Guns is the assault armament of the Storm Troopers and Hot-Shot (Long-las) is a sniper-like weapon. But was that really what was being refered to when I said that "weapon X set people on fire"? Kan should have focused on the "on fire"-part, instead of the "weapon X"-part......but he didn't and here we stand. He took exception to the "on fire"-part but used the "Weapon X"-part as the argument. On top of that he chose to do so in his usual abrasive manner.
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"He died because he had no honor. He had no honor and the Emperor was watching."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 15:55:07
Subject: Re:what exactly did C.S Goto write that was incorrect?
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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very nice. the kasrkin squads are just awesome looking. when i was in the military we had to order new body armor for the VBSS teams on our ship. so i was talking to my Lt. at the time and he's like I'm not sure which one to get. So i was like does it come Kasrkin? got a very slowed look for that one
the answer is no. it does not come in kasrkin...yet
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 16:06:59
Subject: what exactly did C.S Goto write that was incorrect?
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Kan doesn't remember about the Storm Troopers and the effect of their weapons in "Cadian Blood"?...and here comes the issue.
Kan deflects by making this about how important it is to keep Hellgun and Hot-shot apart (in the fluff, no less).
Actually no. I didn't "deflect".
You're wrong. "Cadian Blood" never once uses the term 'hot-shot'. There's no snipers in there either, so you're just making crap up or mixing two books up.
He is right, of course. Hell Guns are the assault armament of the Storm Troopers and Hot-Shot (Long-las) is a sniper-like weapon. But was that really what was being refered to when I said that "weapon X set people on fire"?
'Hot-shot' isn't a weapon. It's a type of ammunition.
You don't call a M203 loaded with a smoke grenade a "M203(Smoke)". You call it a M203.
Kan should have focused on the "on fire"-part, instead of the "weapon X"-part......but he didn't and here we stand. He took exception to the "on fire"-part but used the "Weapon X"-part as the argument.
I'd suggest you go back and reread my post.
Because, again: Never ONCE is the word "hot-shot" used.
I will give you that I can see why you mistook the "on fire" part. Because it says on page 83:
"Several of the Remnant hit by the las-fire burst into flames as their clothes caught light."--but that's before the Kasrkin even deploy. That's the Cadians already in there, firing their weapons at full charge.
Page 83-84:
"For a handful of seconds, the chamber was illuminated in an insane display of strobing laser light: red from the lasguns, purple-white from Cruor's hellguns."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 16:09:17
Subject: what exactly did C.S Goto write that was incorrect?
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Stormin' Stompa
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Yes, you are awesome.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 17:08:37
Subject: Re:what exactly did C.S Goto write that was incorrect?
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Calculating Commissar
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C.S. Goto's wikipedia page is locked to prevent vandalism.
That alone should be a hint as to how craptastic his BL stories are.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 17:52:46
Subject: what exactly did C.S Goto write that was incorrect?
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I am actually kinda surprised he has a Wiki page.
(Not insulting him actually. I really didnt think BL writers had wiki pages).
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Gwar! wrote:Huh, I had no idea Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines posted on Dakka. Hi Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I have an Autograph!
Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 17:55:08
Subject: Re:what exactly did C.S Goto write that was incorrect?
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Stormin' Stompa
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metallifan wrote:C.S. Goto's wikipedia page is locked to prevent vandalism.
That alone should be a hint as to how craptastic his BL stories are. 
Yeah, people kept changing every other word to "multi lazor".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 19:24:50
Subject: what exactly did C.S Goto write that was incorrect?
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Calculating Commissar
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MechaEmperor7000 wrote:I am actually kinda surprised he has a Wiki page.
(Not insulting him actually. I really didnt think BL writers had wiki pages).
He probably started it himself
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 19:33:36
Subject: what exactly did C.S Goto write that was incorrect?
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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You can even check the old versions of the page to check it out.
In one old thread I think Not_U links it and hsows his handiwork. It was funny.
But It might not of been him but my memory fails me slightly. Automatically Appended Next Post: Ah. Here's the particular edit I was talking about.
I remember the user saying they even took the name Multilazor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cassern_S._Goto&oldid=329863137
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"Praise Be To The Omissiah!"
"Three things make the Empire great: Faith, Steel and Gunpowder!"
Azarath Metrion Zinthos
Expect my posts to have a bazillion edits. I miss out letters, words, sometimes even entire sentences in my points and posts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 19:44:28
Subject: what exactly did C.S Goto write that was incorrect?
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Just one of those things that makes you kinda shake your head. I mean the editor's should say something about some of this stuff. Kind of like when you read one of the books from the Black Library and there a spelling errors or double printed words. It's like wow guess editor wasnt paying much attention.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 19:45:42
Subject: what exactly did C.S Goto write that was incorrect?
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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When C.S. Goto was writing there was no real editorial oversight.
What's more, from my understanding, he only got to write because he was a 'friend of a friend' and was being given work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 19:47:26
Subject: what exactly did C.S Goto write that was incorrect?
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Calculating Commissar
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VikingScott wrote:You can even check the old versions of the page to check it out. In one old thread I think Not_U links it and hsows his handiwork. It was funny. But It might not of been him but my memory fails me slightly. Gwar! quoted the one I did where -every- word was changed to "MULTILAZ0R" and all that remained were suffixes - "ed" "ing" "ally", etc... and joining words - "and", "the", "for", so on... Ever try to make sense of the sentance "The MULTILAZ0R's MULTILAZ0R of MULTILAZ0RS in the MULTILAZ0Red MULTILAZ0Rverse has MULTILAZ0Red MULTILAZ0R MULTILAZ0Rs"? Yep, one of my prouder moments
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 19:49:58
Subject: what exactly did C.S Goto write that was incorrect?
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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I've seen that floating around too. Well we see what the whole "friend of a friend" got us. Fething back flipping Terminators. Though i would pay good money to see the Despoiler do one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 19:51:12
Subject: Re:what exactly did C.S Goto write that was incorrect?
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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Here's a Dakka thread with C.S Multilasor stuff in it.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/30/268096.page
Hey Metallifan what name did you use on wiki? I'll look for it and quote it for the newlings.
Also what happened to Gwar! ?
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"Praise Be To The Omissiah!"
"Three things make the Empire great: Faith, Steel and Gunpowder!"
Azarath Metrion Zinthos
Expect my posts to have a bazillion edits. I miss out letters, words, sometimes even entire sentences in my points and posts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 19:52:04
Subject: what exactly did C.S Goto write that was incorrect?
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Fixture of Dakka
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I can't imagine the "friend of a friend" thing was the whole story. I hate Goto's work as much as the next person, but "friend of a friend" doesn't account for however many books he wrote for the black library (6?).
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 19:55:29
Subject: Re:what exactly did C.S Goto write that was incorrect?
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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Possibly Metalifan? wrote: C.S Goto's MULTILASERs have MULTILASERed MULTILASERed MULTILASERs and MULTILASERed MULTILASER amongst MULTILASERs. Negative MULTILASERSs of Goto's MULTILASERhammer MULTILASERs have MULTILASERcised the MULTILASER's lack of MULTILASER to MULTILASER MULTILASERground (MULTILASERally known as "MULTILASERS"). MULTILASER MULTILASER, many of the MULTILASERs are MULTILASER and MULTILASER Goto's work for its style of MULTILASERing and MULTILASERs by MULTILASER
Was this it?
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"Praise Be To The Omissiah!"
"Three things make the Empire great: Faith, Steel and Gunpowder!"
Azarath Metrion Zinthos
Expect my posts to have a bazillion edits. I miss out letters, words, sometimes even entire sentences in my points and posts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 20:03:53
Subject: what exactly did C.S Goto write that was incorrect?
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Just Dave wrote:I can't imagine the "friend of a friend" thing was the whole story. I hate Goto's work as much as the next person, but "friend of a friend" doesn't account for however many books he wrote for the black library (6?).
It does account for how he got the Dawn of War books however.
Because let's face it: his short stories were crap. There's no way they'd just give him the novelization of their first big PC game in a long time, after he'd previously published one short story.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 20:06:56
Subject: what exactly did C.S Goto write that was incorrect?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Oh yeah, it wouldn't surprise me, but as I said, it's likely not the whole story and nor would it account for his several other novels...
Anyways, I'll let you guys carry on with the Goto-bashing. Don't forget the torturing of the Eldar 'seer for several hundred pages...
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 20:10:23
Subject: Re:what exactly did C.S Goto write that was incorrect?
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Calculating Commissar
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VikingScott wrote:Possibly Metalifan? wrote: C.S Goto's MULTILASERs have MULTILASERed MULTILASERed MULTILASERs and MULTILASERed MULTILASER amongst MULTILASERs. Negative MULTILASERSs of Goto's MULTILASERhammer MULTILASERs have MULTILASERcised the MULTILASER's lack of MULTILASER to MULTILASER MULTILASERground (MULTILASERally known as "MULTILASERS"). MULTILASER MULTILASER, many of the MULTILASERs are MULTILASER and MULTILASER Goto's work for its style of MULTILASERing and MULTILASERs by MULTILASER
Was this it? 
That would be the one, yea
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 20:11:52
Subject: what exactly did C.S Goto write that was incorrect?
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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Just Dave wrote:Oh yeah, it wouldn't surprise me, but as I said, it's likely not the whole story and nor would it account for his several other novels...
Anyways, I'll let you guys carry on with the Goto-bashing. Don't forget the torturing of the Eldar 'seer for several hundred pages... 
Eldar Prophecy. A book of torture pron.
Also here's Goto's portrait:
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"Praise Be To The Omissiah!"
"Three things make the Empire great: Faith, Steel and Gunpowder!"
Azarath Metrion Zinthos
Expect my posts to have a bazillion edits. I miss out letters, words, sometimes even entire sentences in my points and posts.
Come at me Heretic. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 20:15:52
Subject: Re:what exactly did C.S Goto write that was incorrect?
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Calculating Commissar
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Isn't Eldar Prophecy the one where the Space Marine full-on rapes the farseer, or was that one of the 'Warrior' books?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 20:24:11
Subject: what exactly did C.S Goto write that was incorrect?
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Kanluwen wrote:Basically: the guy's a self-admitted moron. He tries to play it off now like "LULZ GUYZ JUS' TROLLIN'!" but in reality: he didn't know feth all about what he was doing, and he only got the job because he 'knew a guy'.
Well if true that say says a fair bit about the way Black Library editors select writers to work on their range, not that nepotism is a new thing in the world of publishing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 20:27:15
Subject: what exactly did C.S Goto write that was incorrect?
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Howard A Treesong wrote:Kanluwen wrote:Basically: the guy's a self-admitted moron. He tries to play it off now like "LULZ GUYZ JUS' TROLLIN'!" but in reality: he didn't know feth all about what he was doing, and he only got the job because he 'knew a guy'.
Well if true that say says a fair bit about the way Black Library editors select writers to work on their range, not that nepotism is a new thing in the world of publishing.
Not really.
They've done a lot to move past those days. Nobody wants to see another C.S. Goto
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 20:40:22
Subject: what exactly did C.S Goto write that was incorrect?
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
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weirD Automatically Appended Next Post:
Isn't there Space Wolf recruits who are well established warlords in their Fenrisan tribe before the "Sky Warriors" come to take them away? I thought this happened to Wolf Lord Morkai? Also isn't Canis the same? yes I think so
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Your end has come. The sight of us will be your last. We are Wrath. We are Vengeance. We are the Rainbow Warrioirs."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 21:17:33
Subject: what exactly did C.S Goto write that was incorrect?
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[MOD]
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MechaEmperor7000 wrote:I am actually kinda surprised he has a Wiki page.
(Not insulting him actually. I really didnt think BL writers had wiki pages).
Anyone can make a Wikipedia page about anything, that's the point of it.
A lot of pages are just copied out of other encyclopaedias and text books, however there is a mine of otherwise unavailable information on various aspects of popular culture.
Look up Card Captor Sakura, for instance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Card_Captor_Sakura
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 21:24:39
Subject: what exactly did C.S Goto write that was incorrect?
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VikingScott wrote:Eldar Prophecy. A book of torture pron.
metallifan wrote:Isn't Eldar Prophecy the one where the Space Marine full-on rapes the farseer, or was that one of the 'Warrior' books?
Gave up reading Eldar Prophecy, but in Dawn of War Tempest an already injured female Edlar Farseer is tortured for 180 pages before she is finally allowed to die. And a mute Eldar Harlequin Solitaire is tortured so intensively until he screams (the other Harlequins are the aforementioned "piles of mutilated bodies" (quote).
Warrior Coven is the book where Goto enjoys to kill the last possible (female) Shining Spear Exarch of Ulthwé with the help of Eldrad and the Slaanesh worshipping female chair of the Farseer council and the Slaanesh worshipping Dark Eldar.
And Tales of the Dark Millenium features the story where the fat drooling child molesting Farseer leading the Slaanesh worshippers takes the female helpless child Farseer by the hand and leads her away to an unknown future.
You get the idea.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 21:35:07
Subject: what exactly did C.S Goto write that was incorrect?
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Kroothawk wrote:Gave up reading Eldar Prophecy, but in Dawn of War Tempest an already injured female Edlar Farseer is tortured for 180 pages before she is finally allowed to die. And a mute Eldar Harlequin Solitaire is tortured so intensively until he screams (the other Harlequins are the aforementioned "piles of mutilated bodies" (quote).
Warrior Coven is the book where Goto enjoys to kill the last possible (female) Shining Spear Exarch of Ulthwé with the help of Eldrad and the Slaanesh worshipping female chair of the Farseer council and the Slaanesh worshipping Dark Eldar.
And Tales of the Dark Millenium features the story where the fat drooling child molesting Farseer leading the Slaanesh worshippers takes the female helpless child Farseer by the hand and leads her away to an unknown future.
You get the idea.
I had forgotten about all of these things...maybe there is a reason for that. could it possibly be bad writing and complete lack of interest in the books and short story.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 21:53:41
Subject: Re:what exactly did C.S Goto write that was incorrect?
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Calculating Commissar
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I think he just walked into a GW one day, saw people playing a game, read a couple short stories in some Codi, and then contacted BL with an email stating "HAI GUISE! I NO LOTS ABOUT WARTHING 400! I CAN RITE BUKS 4 U? LOLTHANXBAI!"
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