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Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

avantgarde wrote:I'm sure a Malz buff is top priority right after more Gragas nerfs.

Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?

Buy wards.

I never buy wards that money could be spent better else where imo (like saving for bf sword), I don't need a ward to tell me where the enemy is I can predict their movements by the mini map.

How do you magically know where their jungler is?

When I see too many mia's I don't venture too deep into the enemy base, unless I'm with a group. If several enemy champions have disappeared something's going on I don't need a ward to tell me that.

How do you know magically know where the enemy jungler is?

He's in the jungle or he's going to jump you at a lane, besides I rarely go out of my base by myself I usually play a tank meaning I'm there to scare off any potential threats that occur to my lane partner. The only

non-tank I play is Warwick but he has enough hp, life-steal and movement to escape most ganks.

Early game lanewick is easily ganked.

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

avantgarde wrote:I'm sure a Malz buff is top priority right after more Gragas nerfs.

Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?

Buy wards.

I never buy wards that money could be spent better else where imo (like saving for bf sword), I don't need a ward to tell me where the enemy is I can predict their movements by the mini map.

How do you magically know where their jungler is?

When I see too many mia's I don't venture too deep into the enemy base, unless I'm with a group. If several enemy champions have disappeared something's going on I don't need a ward to tell me that.

How do you know magically know where the enemy jungler is?

He's in the jungle or he's going to jump you at a lane, besides I rarely go out of my base by myself I usually play a tank meaning I'm there to scare off any potential threats that occur to my lane partner. The only

non-tank I play is Warwick but he has enough hp, life-steal and movement to escape most ganks.

Early game lanewick is easily ganked.

Yeah but there's probably gank set-up going on if the other lanes have 2 or more guys missing.

Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

avantgarde wrote:I'm sure a Malz buff is top priority right after more Gragas nerfs.

Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?

Buy wards.

I never buy wards that money could be spent better else where imo (like saving for bf sword), I don't need a ward to tell me where the enemy is I can predict their movements by the mini map.

How do you magically know where their jungler is?

When I see too many mia's I don't venture too deep into the enemy base, unless I'm with a group. If several enemy champions have disappeared something's going on I don't need a ward to tell me that.

How do you know magically know where the enemy jungler is?

He's in the jungle or he's going to jump you at a lane, besides I rarely go out of my base by myself I usually play a tank meaning I'm there to scare off any potential threats that occur to my lane partner. The only

non-tank I play is Warwick but he has enough hp, life-steal and movement to escape most ganks.

Early game lanewick is easily ganked.

Yeah but there's probably gank set-up going on if the other lanes have 2 or more guys missing.

2+1v2 is a gank. The jungler counts and is the primary source of ganks in most games once you pass like level 15.

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

avantgarde wrote:I'm sure a Malz buff is top priority right after more Gragas nerfs.

Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?

Buy wards.

I never buy wards that money could be spent better else where imo (like saving for bf sword), I don't need a ward to tell me where the enemy is I can predict their movements by the mini map.

How do you magically know where their jungler is?

When I see too many mia's I don't venture too deep into the enemy base, unless I'm with a group. If several enemy champions have disappeared something's going on I don't need a ward to tell me that.

How do you know magically know where the enemy jungler is?

He's in the jungle or he's going to jump you at a lane, besides I rarely go out of my base by myself I usually play a tank meaning I'm there to scare off any potential threats that occur to my lane partner. The only

non-tank I play is Warwick but he has enough hp, life-steal and movement to escape most ganks.

Early game lanewick is easily ganked.

Yeah but there's probably gank set-up going on if the other lanes have 2 or more guys missing.

2+1v2 is a gank. The jungler counts and is the primary source of ganks in most games once you pass like level 15.

I've rarely seen a successful gank pulled off with just 2 guys.

If we could stop quoting that monster of quotes, that would be great.

I've rarely seen a successful gank pulled off with just 2 guys.


You clearly haven't been playing very long then.

Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

avantgarde wrote:I'm sure a Malz buff is top priority right after more Gragas nerfs.

Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?

Buy wards.

I never buy wards that money could be spent better else where imo (like saving for bf sword), I don't need a ward to tell me where the enemy is I can predict their movements by the mini map.

How do you magically know where their jungler is?

When I see too many mia's I don't venture too deep into the enemy base, unless I'm with a group. If several enemy champions have disappeared something's going on I don't need a ward to tell me that.

How do you know magically know where the enemy jungler is?

He's in the jungle or he's going to jump you at a lane, besides I rarely go out of my base by myself I usually play a tank meaning I'm there to scare off any potential threats that occur to my lane partner. The only

non-tank I play is Warwick but he has enough hp, life-steal and movement to escape most ganks.

Early game lanewick is easily ganked.

Yeah but there's probably gank set-up going on if the other lanes have 2 or more guys missing.

2+1v2 is a gank. The jungler counts and is the primary source of ganks in most games once you pass like level 15.

I've rarely seen a successful gank pulled off with just 2 guys.

What level are you? Also I just described a situation of 3 on two. The jungler is a +1 add. It turns 1v1 into 2v1 and so on.

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

avantgarde wrote:I'm sure a Malz buff is top priority right after more Gragas nerfs.

Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?

Buy wards.

I never buy wards that money could be spent better else where imo (like saving for bf sword), I don't need a ward to tell me where the enemy is I can predict their movements by the mini map.

How do you magically know where their jungler is?

When I see too many mia's I don't venture too deep into the enemy base, unless I'm with a group. If several enemy champions have disappeared something's going on I don't need a ward to tell me that.

How do you know magically know where the enemy jungler is?

He's in the jungle or he's going to jump you at a lane, besides I rarely go out of my base by myself I usually play a tank meaning I'm there to scare off any potential threats that occur to my lane partner. The only

non-tank I play is Warwick but he has enough hp, life-steal and movement to escape most ganks.

Early game lanewick is easily ganked.

Yeah but there's probably gank set-up going on if the other lanes have 2 or more guys missing.

2+1v2 is a gank. The jungler counts and is the primary source of ganks in most games once you pass like level 15.

I've rarely seen a successful gank pulled off with just 2 guys.

What level are you? Also I just described a situation of 3 on two. The jungler is a +1 add. It turns 1v1 into 2v1 and so on.

Lvl.30, I forgot to mention that I never go into a fight by myself that's just plain suicide. Plus I usually stay on the lanes (where there's less fog of war) and not the jungles.

Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

avantgarde wrote:I'm sure a Malz buff is top priority right after more Gragas nerfs.

Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?

Buy wards.

I never buy wards that money could be spent better else where imo (like saving for bf sword), I don't need a ward to tell me where the enemy is I can predict their movements by the mini map.

How do you magically know where their jungler is?

When I see too many mia's I don't venture too deep into the enemy base, unless I'm with a group. If several enemy champions have disappeared something's going on I don't need a ward to tell me that.

How do you know magically know where the enemy jungler is?

He's in the jungle or he's going to jump you at a lane, besides I rarely go out of my base by myself I usually play a tank meaning I'm there to scare off any potential threats that occur to my lane partner. The only

non-tank I play is Warwick but he has enough hp, life-steal and movement to escape most ganks.

Early game lanewick is easily ganked.

Yeah but there's probably gank set-up going on if the other lanes have 2 or more guys missing.

2+1v2 is a gank. The jungler counts and is the primary source of ganks in most games once you pass like level 15.

I've rarely seen a successful gank pulled off with just 2 guys.

What level are you? Also I just described a situation of 3 on two. The jungler is a +1 add. It turns 1v1 into 2v1 and so on.

Lvl.30, I forgot to mention that I never go into a fight by myself that's just plain suicide. Plus I usually stay on the lanes (where there's less fog of war) and not the jungles.

How strange then that your experience totally contradicts that of the majority of the community concerning the function and commonality of ganks and the resilience of champions.

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

avantgarde wrote:I'm sure a Malz buff is top priority right after more Gragas nerfs.

Vulkan_He'stan wrote:After reading this i decided to download it
its half way through now
any tips for a complete newbie?

Buy wards.

I never buy wards that money could be spent better else where imo (like saving for bf sword), I don't need a ward to tell me where the enemy is I can predict their movements by the mini map.

How do you magically know where their jungler is?

When I see too many mia's I don't venture too deep into the enemy base, unless I'm with a group. If several enemy champions have disappeared something's going on I don't need a ward to tell me that.

How do you know magically know where the enemy jungler is?

He's in the jungle or he's going to jump you at a lane, besides I rarely go out of my base by myself I usually play a tank meaning I'm there to scare off any potential threats that occur to my lane partner. The only

non-tank I play is Warwick but he has enough hp, life-steal and movement to escape most ganks.

Early game lanewick is easily ganked.

Yeah but there's probably gank set-up going on if the other lanes have 2 or more guys missing.

2+1v2 is a gank. The jungler counts and is the primary source of ganks in most games once you pass like level 15.

I've rarely seen a successful gank pulled off with just 2 guys.

What level are you? Also I just described a situation of 3 on two. The jungler is a +1 add. It turns 1v1 into 2v1 and so on.

Lvl.30, I forgot to mention that I never go into a fight by myself that's just plain suicide. Plus I usually stay on the lanes (where there's less fog of war) and not the jungles.

How strange then that your experience totally contradicts that of the majority of the community concerning the function and commonality of ganks and the resilience of champions.

The idea is not to get caught in the first place, otherwise I would usually end up dead.

So are we just going to continue quoting this monster?

Do what you do to any bad player. /ignore and move on. Arguing with a bad player is a waste of time and never ends well.

Anyone else hating this rotation? Galio, Kassadin, Renek, Kat, Ez, Gang; all suck ass in the hands of inexperienced players. I just played a game with a Croc feeding 1/17/0.

Yea.. its a bad rotation, i was hoping for malzar so i could play him again to decide if i want to buy him.

One of the few casters ive only played once :/

Yeah im really not a fan of this rotation.

To many of those champs have a very high skill curve, and cause a lot of issues with feeding.

I have already seen idiot kats blink in and ult thinking they could kill someone, only problem is they have a stun and destroy her.

Kassadin is kinda ugh tho, that guy is a BEAST when farmed. I actually own the hero and went 31-1 on him the other day. Its just wrong what he can do to people.

Crok is also very strong in the hands of a competent player, but like you said is really easy to feed with.

Galio is another one of my hero's I own and play a lot, and its sad how horrible people build/play him. He is so incredibly disgusting when built right, flash in, ult, win the fight...



People should be required to read decent guides before they try to play a hero...


Also Malzahar can stay off the list forever for all that I care lol...

whats peoples names on LOL so I can add you

I'm ninjavvvdan by the way

ShivanAngel

Shumabot

ShivanAngel wrote:


Also Malzahar can stay off the list forever for all that I care lol...

I usualy play Brand, lux, morgana and Vlad.

Want moar spell pew pew.

cant find either of you.....

I'm a big fan of Miss Fortune this rotation

Vulkan_He'stan wrote:whats peoples names on LOL so I can add you

I'm ninjavvvdan by the way

Yaster. I should play with you sometime.

Iustis, with a capital i. Though I won't be on for a couple weeks.

I just had the last straw with this game.

The community is worse than Xbox Live or even WoW. It's absolutely amazing to me than it's possible for a community to get this bad. Games at level 30 are far far worse than the ones I played when I was in the 20s, it's just incredible.

My last game I played for the first time as Master Yi and I jungled. I went 8-3-3 before the game turned to "it doesn't matter anymore" because we had a Vlad that was 1-12-2; he fed Annie so hard. The rest of our team (including myself) were calling Vlad out on how bad he was, but he kept responding as though he was a 12 year old thinking he was a gangster.

There were about 6 votes to surrender, all failed until they destroyed our Nexus.

Now, why is the community bad? Well, take the young kids of Xbox Live, take the selfish adults of WoW, slap them together into one game, add a whole new vocabulary pool predominantly using the term "feeding", and you have LoL.

I can go on and on, but I'll stop right here.

This is why the ignore list exists, shouldn't have to but grab any large group of people and give them "anonymity" and a fair few will reveal that they are just mindless jerks.

I'll agree though, the learning curve drops significantly after you hit level 30. This confuses me as it means some of these level 30s I see that play as well as level 8-10s have lost an astonishing amount of games to get to that level.

I'm only a level 6 and have only had 1 game were I've had more kills than deaths

Vulkan_He'stan wrote:I'm only a level 6 and have only had 1 game were I've had more kills than deaths

That will happen for a bit, you'll get better at it. Not every champion is meant to have lots of kills either.


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AresX8 wrote:I just had the last straw with this game.

The community is worse than Xbox Live or even WoW. It's absolutely amazing to me than it's possible for a community to get this bad. Games at level 30 are far far worse than the ones I played when I was in the 20s, it's just incredible.

My last game I played for the first time as Master Yi and I jungled. I went 8-3-3 before the game turned to "it doesn't matter anymore" because we had a Vlad that was 1-12-2; he fed Annie so hard. The rest of our team (including myself) were calling Vlad out on how bad he was, but he kept responding as though he was a 12 year old thinking he was a gangster.

There were about 6 votes to surrender, all failed until they destroyed our Nexus.

Now, why is the community bad? Well, take the young kids of Xbox Live, take the selfish adults of WoW, slap them together into one game, add a whole new vocabulary pool predominantly using the term "feeding", and you have LoL.

I can go on and on, but I'll stop right here.

Yeah, I've been getting annoyed with it too. I report people constantly and have done so for a while.

The only game I had more kills than deaths was a good game with singed
I can't seem to play well with any champion other than him.

I can only find Yaster can't find any of the others
can you try adding me

NinjaVVVDan

AresX8 wrote:I just had the last straw with this game.

The community is worse than Xbox Live or even WoW. It's absolutely amazing to me than it's possible for a community to get this bad. Games at level 30 are far far worse than the ones I played when I was in the 20s, it's just incredible.

My last game I played for the first time as Master Yi and I jungled. I went 8-3-3 before the game turned to "it doesn't matter anymore" because we had a Vlad that was 1-12-2; he fed Annie so hard. The rest of our team (including myself) were calling Vlad out on how bad he was, but he kept responding as though he was a 12 year old thinking he was a gangster.

There were about 6 votes to surrender, all failed until they destroyed our Nexus.

Now, why is the community bad? Well, take the young kids of Xbox Live, take the selfish adults of WoW, slap them together into one game, add a whole new vocabulary pool predominantly using the term "feeding", and you have LoL.

I can go on and on, but I'll stop right here.

The two bold sections of text cannot be in the same post if you want anyone to take you seriously.

That being said the community is pretty bad. I make a point not to play with randoms for that reason. Though, if nothing else, it isn't anywhere near as ridiculous as HoN.

I've been playing about a week now so obviously I'm no expert. That said, I played a lot of bot matches before even trying PvP to get an understanding of the game and the champions and, mostly, take names in PvP. Most of the time, however, the game will come down to whichever team has the fewest 0/15/2 players. Even as Shen a lot of the time it is unless even trying to save a diving team mate. Better have him sitting out rather than getting killed trying to get him to run away.

I've not seen much evidence of the terrible community though. Players being bad is an unavoidable consequence of playing team games. Players AFK seems to be more to do with the buggy client. Only once have I seen players being purposefully bad, with two guys demanding mid lane and camping there for the whole game.

Edit: Soupandaroll if anyone wants a game (or to check up on my boasting)

Vulkan_He'stan wrote:The only game I had more kills than deaths was a good game with singed
I can't seem to play well with any champion other than him.

I can only find Yaster can't find any of the others
can you try adding me

NinjaVVVDan

Alright, I'll try to remember to add you maybe we can get some matches together.

Ugh I hate people who call mid or jungle, and 18 minutes later they are still in the mid lane or jungle farming away...

The whole point of mid is to get some quick farm and levels, and then roam to start ganking, only stopping in mid to clear a creep wave or two as you find your next target.

Went 12-0 by the 22 minute mark with urgot doing that last night, at the 11 minute mark I went top and got the double kill. Came back mid and managed to kill the miss fortune that had pushed to the tower! Snowballed into stupidity from there.

Oh another thing that drives me insane... People that play assassins like shako or eve, and the entire match its 5v4 EXCEPT when someone gets to about 15% hp and starts running then they run in and snag the kill.. Then your team gets aced because you were pretty much down a hero the entire time... Assassins are there to explode a champ when the fight starts, hopefully before they can be CC'ed, if you die no big, at least you killed their biggest threat.

My list could go on and on about how stupid some people are (like ashe and Caytlin somehow managing to feed a blitz/yi top lane) Seriously, the hell do you manage that with two of the best laners in the game...

Fortunantly there are more good games then bad games for me. Usually the bad games are when 5 people are playing a 1v1 game, instead of 5 people playing a team game.